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I had the same problem about 1 year ago and i also dont understand why i was choosing the suffering over a nice calm meditation. At some point is just shifted for me and i started to enjoy meditation a lot! What can help is trying to just meditate multiple times for very short periods of times. Or as the dreamer said conscious breathing is a great idea. Just bringing your meditation into your normal state always when you become conscious even if its just for a moment so in other words becoming meditative in every activity.

But dont you think that if someone experiences enlightenment he basically taps into another dimension? In our 3d physical world this nothingness that everything is can not exist because physicality has boundries. That is the reason why in our physical world we can not even explain what it actually is it is only explainable in the same dimensional "area" which would only be possible to experience by people who can adapt their consciousness to that dimension and making it impossible to hand towards others in 3D. It makes us actually exist in 3D reality but not in this higher dimension. I hope what im trying to say is possible to grasp out of anothers perspective.

The negative always comes from the ego in my opinion.

You guys are really being too negative on this. My opinion on this is that there are as many paradoxons as there are dimensions which means yes ultimately in the highest dimension we do not exist there is no we. But in the physical 3D world we actually do exist! Sure if you get enlightened you are able to grasp this higher dimension perspective but the truth is life still happens to you in this world. So basically what i am saying is wo do exist and we do not exist at the same time. Living your dream or living your illusion what difference does it make?

Its not all black and white you know. Yes it is true that you can not be truly happy the way you can with spirituality. But you can be happy to a limited degree for a short period of time after a new success which is enough for many people. Also there are many different spiritual paths you do not neccesairly have to seek enlightenment. If you get in touch with your higher self on your spiritual journey and discover what your true desires are i think you still can be happy to a certain degree by materialistic means if you always follow your true desires but many people dont think for themselves and made the desires others have for them to their own which makes them unhappy. It might be a very turbulent life path nontheless, at one point you will desire to be successful in a job and a few years later a new desire might come up which makes you quit that job. You can also choose the way of positive focus/raising your frequency or vibration however you want to call it which also can make you happy to a certain degree and you will still have those drops of frequency from time to time. What people who seek enlightenment are talking about is a happiness thats is beyond measure its bliss if you reach this state you will see how every other kind of happiness is just an illusion but still i would not say that this is the one true way. In fact i try to kind of go on a mixture of all of those paths. I try positive focus and seek out for my desires to a high degree and do stupidly long amounts of meditation sometimes to eventually become enlightened. If you discover the first time that the world you live in is an illusion it sure will make you confused. Keep up your passions if they really are passions which you do for yourself and not for others.

If you go for material things you will notice that you will be looking for success for all your life and once you get to that point you will realize that it did not make you happy because you want more. Animals have their limits if they have a full stomach they are truly happy. Humans on the other hands have no limitations at all if you have an empty stomach you have 1 problem if you finally fill it you suddenly have 100 problems. If you become the king of earth you will look for the stars and if you have our galaxy under control you will look for the entire universe.. Our physical reality has its boundries that is why it is not possible to truly satisfy the limitless human nature. You have to seek for the unlimited source of bliss that is inside of you if you really want to be happy.

It depends what you are aiming for. If i combine many techniques the benefits will have a larger quantity and the increase in quality due to one technique might actually fall off if you reach a very high level. But it comes down to how long you actually meditate sure if its 30 minutes and you use 3 different techniques that would be pretty useless but if you meditate 3 hours and use 3 different techniques it is a whole other story. That is atleast my experience that the first 20-40 minutes you go deeper at a good pace but then it starts to get deeper very slowly if it does at all.

Psychological pain is suffering. Thanks for the encouragement but i am not new to the spiritual path.

I dont agree with this completely. As you said pain is caused by interpretation for example if something goes wrong for you but as soon as you reject the pain itself or the feeling which caused it pain becomes suffering. I want to distinguish this because pain is a part of life it cant always be the way you want it to be but suffering on the other hand is the optional part if you reject it you will suffer.

Why is that bad? I like to combine them usually.

“THINGS ONLY HAVE THE VALUE THAT WE GIVE THEM.“ - MOLIÈRE Life is meaningless because we are nothing and dont exist. Thats why we make up the meaning in our life by ourselfs. Humans suffer their freedom. Tell me did you achieve more if you are a millionaire who is depressive because he is still not happy with his life even thought he thought he will be when he is rich or did you achieve more if you are a person who expresses his deepest desires in every moment of his life which makes him happy beyond measure? Now you still should go out of your way sometimes to make it possible to follow your desires if it implies becoming a millionaire to fullfil your true desieres then do it but if it does not where is the point in being successful?

Well meditation has some great biological benefits first of all which in it alone is enough in my opinion. If you really do meditation like it is supposed to be done you will become very conscious which itself will transform your life you will become healthy and you just will not be able to hurt yourself with destructive behaviours anymore. Surely it is not like you can just do it for a short period of time you have to make it a habit which you will keep up for the rest of your life which leo actually talks about.

There are tons of scientific studies which show the benefits of meditation and the control groups would very unlikely do no more than 15-45 minutes a day. There are tons of videos, ted talks, google talks you name it.. that show the benefits enlightenment is not everything in fact i would be still meditating 2 hours a day if there would be no such thing as enlightenment. If you do not see changes keep in mind: 1. not constant, sometimes you might be doing even worse than without meditation for a period of time because you are purging a lot of garbage. 2. If a small change comes over a long period of time you just do not notice it.

There are different stages. I did do nothing straight for 1 years now for about 30-60 minutes now that i recently started meditating for 2-3 hours a day i feel like it is not enough i try to mix techniques and finally start doing some deeper mindfullness. But the best is really strong determination sitting just had a 2 hour session it is amazing my brain is buzzing like crazy to this moment but it just means change and change is good!

After a while the main object of the meditation will become your pain and struggle to go on which is pretty much the point of this meditation so the mind chatter will not get a lot of attention in later stages.

No, only if you notice that you start not enjoying it at all even the relief after you end the meditation is not enough anymore i would try something else and eventually come back to it after a few weeks.

I was doing it the same way for a long time but from time to time it seemed like it had become useless so i switched to mindfullness meditation for a short time and got back to this method again and it has always awesome benefits especially in the first few weeks. But i changed my meditation habit now i do this kind of meditation you mentioned untill i have close to no-thoughts arising after that i usually go over to doing emotional vipassana which i learned from teal swan i just try to recognize the emotions i feel in my stomach and just accept them go into them untill they become bliss on a normal day i would stop here but sometimes i also add the note-gone technique or just focus on very deep breaths untill i feel my circulation kind of skyrocketing. I also usually try to add phases of self-inquiry inbetween.

I usually meditate while lying down on my bed and i dont really have any issues with falling asleep it maybe happens once in a month or two that i fall asleep for a few minutes while meditating however the reason i do it is that i start having a back pain already after just a few minutes of sitting without a back rest because i have an issue with my shoulder blades they are kind of uneven, one is deeper inside of my body than the other and this is what starts to hurt so fast it does not really interfere with anything in my life besides that i can not seem to sit like that without a back rest for long. I was thinking if i can just use this pain to make the strong determination sitting even faster in effect because after all it is about pain. I am not sure if this could be an issue, maybe someone here has an advice for me if not i guess i will have to ask a doctor.

Thanks for the advice. I think i still prefer to lay down and if it is possible to reach enlightenment this way thats even better but i do not even want to set it as a goal and give up on it I just want to do meditation for my well being so i will keep it lying down. I started practicing yoga today so it might change in the future.

What i noticed during my breaks from porn is that i start seeing women as equal humans, while watching porn they were just sex objects if i am really honest and this change did a whole lot for me i could even have female platonic friends which i could not before. Btw i still masturbate just without porn also without imagining porn i just try to fantasize about real life situations with women that i really met in person and it is actually not hard at all to stay away from porn like that i did it a few times in between without losing any benefits and i started to see that porn was not as good as my fantasy because if i am real honest as a conscious being women as plain sex objects dont stay interesting for very long just when you see their personality even if it is a made up personality because you dont know them well.

You have to define what meditation is because in my opinion self-inquiry is just a meditation technique there are many different techniques and in my opinion they should all play a part on your journey to really experience it all by yourself. Not to mention that only trough meditation does an unconscious person become more and more conscious which is probably the most important thing in seeking out enlightenment.

There is a technique which does not really take much to do you just read a book and than do it. It can take from 10 minutes to about 2 hours but it truly works and i think for people with very heavy trauma it can be better than a decade of meditation: The Completion Process by Teal Swan.

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