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I loved this discussion with Andrew Tate and Chatgpt4. It really works. This could give Leo inspiration to do a similar format , but about metaphysical topics.

Don't forget: Leo popularized also malt. For sure you can say he popularized whole psychedelic sector. All of them. But the well known like LSD maybe he influenced by 0,01% , the rare ones like malt maybe up to 90% ?

You mean this is not real and the whole discussion is ai generated?

@StripedGiraffe a wise idea. However I witnessed personally that it is possible to breakthrough easy with malt first time without 5 Meo DMT breakthroughs before.

@Leo Gura so there can be only one reason not to talk about. You keep it secret for the alien mind course.

@youngshinzen lol pretty good man! Don't know if ai generated song can beat that

@shree @Leo Gurawhich one other than the 3 Big 5 meos are worth to try out?

@jacknine119 it's absolutely worth. But maybe do your own research first and then compare if Leo also has them in his list. He has English books only. So there could be great books in other languages out there you miss

@shree so Martin ball took probably 15 mg like he does with 5 Meo DMT. However mipt has different dosage, you need way more. 15 mg can still be too low for some. Martin ball never tried it out really if he just say he had a mild experience. That's sad.

@What Am I absolutely awesome and powerful. Full body orgasm

Please be correct. He never claimed that aliens visited him. He encountered a strange alien energy somewhere in the mountains.

In this terms I agree with you. Don't judge a public and very famous person on thinks he says purposely on YouTube. He is tied by the rules of mainstream. And especially sadghuru knows more than he can tell publicly. Everyone who participated in his advanced course knows the difference.

@Davino would you say Malt is dangerous for someone with a weak heart but overall healthy body or manageable? For me I find 5 Meo DMT sometimes very harsh on the body. But never with 5 meo malt.

Chatgpt4 doesn't give you inspiration, what's new out there, it doesn't show you what could be valuable to research further in some kind of topic. Also it doesn't provide personal experience with psychedelics and other methods. Therefore AI will not destroy forums like this one.

You mean 5 Meo DMT is harder to the body because the come up can be wild?

You are absolutely right in terms of crushing your ego hard. I ask me which of them is less hard to the body, especially the heart?

Please put some whole sentences it's hard to read. And you can talk around like you want, I am fine with that. Just be honest to yourself whatever you do.

@Ishanga @Ishanga we already had that discussion. You are not interested in truth but only in that which makes you feel good and that is the distorted truth for you. And actually sadghuru and this whole yoga stuff makes you feel great. Solipsim doesnt make you feel great. I can understand that. But come on you are not a truth seeker, you cannot claim that. At least be honest about that.

@Ishanga lol don't ever compare to psychedelics. "Administration of vaporized 5-MeO-DMT reliably occasioned complete mystical experiences in 75% of individuals" And that's not after 5 years. That's after after 15 minutes of smoking: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.02459/full

Can you explain how you redose with that? The peak is normally about 5-10 minutes in. So if you redose before you could go too high because you redosed before the peak. Do you redose every 10 minutes then? And does it build up ? And if the first one is clearly too weak with this ratio why not start with a stronger one to get already on a higher level right from the beginning

You said "Vaping can be painfully intense, shocking, and even physically dangerous. It's easy to inhale too much. Plugging on a medium dose is strong but managable." Are we talking about different roas? I always reference to vape pens and compare them to plugging. And in my opinion that's less risky and less shocking. Are you referring to another method of vaping?

We need to put things into relation. Vaping the same amount of mg you would plug would be because of better Absorption stronger and therefore more dangerous. So you would say a medium dose plugging with medium effects is less physical and mental dangerous than a medium dose of inhaling with medium effects?

"If you can't handle 10 minutes of come up something is wrong" Ah ok so the traumatic experience happens usually not in the come up phase until the peak is reached? Never had one trauma so I am guessing. Just see that the come up is for many an uncomfortable experience and if you don't breakthrough and get sucked into a black hole it is better to get out as fast as possible and vaping is shorter here. So vaping has shorter come up and lasts shorter. Both good points to get less traumatic experience I think compared to plugging.

I have witnessed that plugging is not way more gentle than vaping. I would even say it's more traumatic. The problem is that it comes slow but not so slow that you can adapt. It gets creepy, the effects start coming more and more and more and you will be fucked more slowly which can be a torture on its own. Vaping on the other hand makes the hairy part very quick.

@Unleash thank you so much. I love Malt trip reports. It's so special. One thing you need to know about malt, the roa was not the problem. Plugging can give you also an spiritual emergency. Just because something comes slow doesn't mean you can surrender more easily.if it gets serious, a slower effect will not reduce this in any way.