OBEler

So this "alone" does not sound like that what we humans understand normally. Total connectedness into ONE, total separation into atoms. I as human being live in between these. When I die I will be ONE and alone. And then I will be something in between again, together with others. Or maybe just an atom. Who knows:) that would be utterly perfekt.

@Serotoninluv thank you for your wisdom. You helped me a lot to clarify Spiritual stuff ??

Wow hope you and your wife are ok. Hm sounds like you are really watching too much Leo Videos. You use his same terminology. But something does not fit right when I read your report. Was this a Bad Trip for you? Do you still think your wife does not exist?

Did you closed your eyes during this? I will try this with low dose 70 microgramm lsd, too and see what happens

@Inder congratulations, how much did you took? you said this was too much to handle. Is this a positive experience for you after all? Or if you had the chance, would you undo this experience?

@diamondpenguin I think you just got this on an intellectual level. If you would got this on deep subconscious level you would be in big fear of loosing your mind. Your ego would not want this to be true

So God creates two persons and god wants that these persons communicate with each other. Unfortunately god forgot that he created them but they still have the desire to communicate with each other. So they invent the internet so that they can communicate. Just to find out after that they dont need this internet to communicate, they are one. The journey. I never met God, but I think god is a little funny

What would Happen if this girl takes 5 meo dmt. From such a dark place she only can get better

@Baotrader Oh I want to undo my statement. I forgot you are the guy who creates his own drugs. This is interesting. WIth LSD it is hard to cure this addiction. With Iboga you have much better chance but you may need more than one or two trips. If your drug can do this with one trip, then this would be absolutely outstanding. Then you really saved someones life with this

A you really cured such a strong Addition? For one Day maybe

@TheHealer that also said socrates: "I know that I dont know" I can recognize this profound sentence thanks to psychedelica.

This helps a lot: https://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/20892-the-holy-grail-of-curing-dpdr/ Some people recover from psychedelics but this is total luck. I would not do any psychedelics until it is gone the natural way (nutriton against adrenal fatique, sport, connection). Even reduce spiritual practices, slowly start again.

Hello, I really get nervous once I decide to trip again. Even on low doses like 70 microgram LSD. I tripped over 15 times and after the first 4 trips I had one "bad trip" on too much lsd. After this needed a break for over one years. Then I got slowly back again, taking psychedelics regulary once per month. The fear is always in the background. It is like "Why am I doing this?". It is like a burden for me...Oh no one month is over, time for tripping again. I dont want this. But I do it anyway, against fear. On the one side I wish a breakthrough experience which brings me on the next level on spirituality. On the other side, I feel scary to have this experience. Will this be too much? Will I never see reality for what it is? I fear infinity, I fear to find out that there is no death. When I sit in silence during trips I always feel like something strange can happen from one second to the next and this will blow my mind forever. Do mystical experiences really feel like suddenly you will hit by a train? Or can it also feel total normal. I have very much respect for every little trip I have and am always nervous. After the peak is over I am happy that the trip will come to an end. Is this normal?

Enlightenment is the complete opposite of DPDR, Shinzen Young also made a topic about this (he called it the evil twin). It is very easy to think that Enlightenment is like DPDR but that just comes from those simple minded persons who never were enlightened and never had DPDR.

@VerballyHazardous top video thank you!

@gk9872 I read the whole thread again from God Perspektive. I think I got a Taste how consciousness works. It is like a force which fluidly shapes here all Things and the Material is itself, consciousness. I would say from human pov it is exact opposite of solipsism. IT is a little Tricky if you have no mystical experience at All. Hang in there, time will show you

@Leo GuraCan you clarify this? I ask me too When you talk about "you imagined this and that" I dont know if you are talking from God POV or limited human form POV. Last would be solipsism. There was a time when you always made it clear from which perspective you talk. Maybe you changed a lot. Are you from now on per default talking from Gods POV ? If yes, I can read this whole thread again, lol.

@Inliytened1 I know that it is in my imagination and what I see and experience right now is all there is for limited me. But if we go meta and beyond that god is in leo and sees leos room. Right? Edit: Ok Leo I just can feel there is something too big to grasp in my limited form. I just hope awakening is not what I think right now and is worth in the end.

@Leo Gura you are always talking from the God perspective. I try to talk from the limited human perspective as I know it. I know that at the end everything is God and my whole room is god. Your room is also god. And you are me. But still I can say if I take the limited illusional human perspective there exist two rooms (Leos room and mine room) right now. It is not true at the end because everything is one but from the limited illusional perspective you can say that at least.

@Leo Gura Ok if I understand you correctly you want to say You as God. So this limited figure on the canvas did not create the corona virus, the canvas (absolute God) did it. So the canvas creates a limited figure with other limited figures and corona and they dont know about corona virus and did not create it because they are limited. But god created corona and experiences every little corona virus therefore corona exists outside of limited figures at the same time and it interacts with the figures. Right? Hope I finally got it

You as absolute God? Or you as limited form God with an ego? Please clarify You as absolute God? Or you as limited form God with an ego? Please clarify

@Leo Gura I talk here from limited human form perspective in this relative world: what is when two imaginated people look at the coffee table at the same time, the one from the frontside the other from the backside, the coffee table has then a backside in this moment because one of them is aware of the backside. Correct? And what about the corona virus? this should not exist for me because I as limited human am not aware of it. Therefore it should not be there. But I can still die from it. And what about the internet, no one is aware of it right now but it still functions if you open a website. So there is something behind the scene which I as limited human being am not aware of. Correct?

So a coffee table has a backside because god is omniscient and created this 3D space time object called coffee table and has full access to every little detail (atoms, structure, energy, spirit whatever).. But when I as an imagined person look at a coffee table, I (not God) just imagine the backside of a coffee table. Because I dont have access to the backside of the coffee table with my eyes (I would if I could have x-ray vision). But in fact the backside of a coffee table is still there thanks to God who is omniscient. Did I understood you correctly?

@Galyna the person has the imaginated ability to imagine me back. the chair does not have this imaginated function. thats the difference.