OBEler

@Bazooka Jesus why Not just close your eyes during the whole Trip? Is this not the same in terms of hallucinations?

@Kazman Hm your trip sounds like total madness from beginning to end. I am scared for seeing god/reality! How can you see gratitute in this? if everything is me, that is the worst thing I as an human being with an ego can possible imagine. So lonely! I think I need to experience for myself one day. I hope it is worth

@Bazooka Jesus what is your background? Some people react different to this experience, you did it well. Lucky one. Hope one day I will get where you at

how did you get there, can you explain? I am ready for kundalini awakening after 5 years of search

@remember bipolar, maniac, depression, obsession, psychotic,... all these she had with different grades and not always all the time. Depression is maybe the biggest one right now Finding a real haman or healer in germany would be great. Any suggestions are welcome

@remember @remember No not at all, I just compared shamanism with medicaments from psychiatrists and said that shamanism/psychedelics are much more powerful at getting to to the root cause of depression

@remember where did I say it is the only way? I never woud say this. I just said we tried a lot of other stuff lol everything is based on beliefs, you can say this to any method we tried on her. You think a little too simplistic when it comes to healing. She had many traumas and maybe in her past lifes too. So of course you cannot wipe out these with one try, You can release bad energy bit by bit. Everytime something big happened it cleaned a bit from her karma In germany it is hardly to find a healer, any recommendations would be nice. Of course I would inform me about shamanism risks too. Every tool has his own risks

When you mean shamanism = taking psychedelics? No not fully. But even if this did not cure her depression yet, she got some powerful deep insights for her life and with dealing with her actual depression for sure. Of course we tried a lot of other less riskfull things before: meditation (powerful. had one ego death during a 10 minutes session ) holosync (binaureal beats). helped a lot, many bad memories came to the surface. She did this for some months with breaks in between. But it got weaker at the end. When she hear this music, there is really deep things going on in her. She is in another dimension Emotional massage: very very powerful for women I think, I could heal a lot with this. She had many past life experiences during this session, that was scary for me but she was fine Hatha Yoga: After her second exercise she said she felt like the transformation to a super saiyajin from dragon ball. The energy of the whole universe got through her she said, she was the whole earth and the whole sky. She did not do this again, I ask me why her healing stones (also very powerful, but she said the psychedelic experience was much much stronger) more sports and better nutrition (maybe reduced a little stress) psychologist and psychiatrists (was a waste of time)

@remember that is right, in germany there is health care, I just mean for other countries in the world you have to pay a lot. I googled it and costs were 60 $ per month and you need to take it years after years. You are right, after all I am doing the same, very carefully of course. But as I said, shamanism can solve the root cause. Antidepressants and other medicaments like that don't have this power

@remember You are trusting too much these psychiatrists. They just make try and error. Giving my girlfriend medicaments, which are new on the market and therefore making her to a test subject is risky. Furthermore these medicaments doesnt resolve the root cause and are horrible expensive Can you elaborate a bit further? What substance did the one person take, was his set and setting right? Total loss of sense for reality during a trip is normal. Does this person still have this issue after the trip?

@remember Do you have direct experience or are you just saying what other people says? My girlfriend has mania phases and is spiritual gifted too. She had many mystical experiences, still deeply depressed sometimes. I gave her AL-LAD. She was overwhelmed by it and definitively want to try it again. Her depression lifted two weeks later a bit (but not full). This experience cleaned a lot in her and gave her directions what she needed the most in her life: SELF LOVE. So psychotropics can definitively help. Of course I went with her to a psychiatrist and psychologist. Funny thing is, the psychologist gave her 1 hour for talking, said she has maybe special abilities and should contact a shaman ( this is an unusual recommendation for a german psychologist). The psychiatrist on the other hand gave her 5 minutes to talk, gave her a special medicament for free (maybe as a test subject who knows). She had horrible side effects from this medicament and stopped it.

@Baotrader please look for help, you are maybe not addicted yet to heroin but your brain will not forget. Yes it is possible but you are just a human. maybe one time you did too much

@Strangeloop Is it like the feeling when you have a "aha-effect" like you are sitting infront of a puzzle and suddenly you have the solution to it? Then you opend a chacra in your head Did the drug phase had any consequences (positive/negative) for you now? Is this drug phase linked to your schizophrenia?

of course you are struggeling financially, heroin costs a lot

@Baotrader this same reaction like yours to cetus56 had a good friend of mine, a heavy heroin addict, when I told him "I know you take heroin" (I just guessed because he was fucked up) Heroin addicts lie to theirself and others all the time. even when it is not necessary.

Hello there, since AL-LAD production stopped worldwide and on top is prohibited in germany this year I ask me if there are some good replacements out there for AL-LAD which are as friendly as this psychedelicum and also have short durations for about 6 hours. My first thoughts were shrooms in low dose area. I never took them. Can you compare this to AL-LAD? Or are they not so friendly even in low doses? Too bad AL-LAD is history

@Astra I never learned something spiritually while out of body experience. It last just for some minutes then you snap out of it. Also you just fly throgh astral World. A big waste of time I never had any insights from it, out of body experiences were completely useless, I just had some fun (at cost of not sleeping well enough)

@TheAlchemist @RickyBalboa Thanks for your recommendations! 4-ho-Met is too new and unexplored so it can have unknown risks. This makes it unattractive for me 2c-b sounds really comparable with AL-LAD. Are there some people here who took both and can compare these psychedelica?

@TrynaBeTurquoise LSD doesnt resonate with me. It is too forceful, it last too long and is too much mind fuck. I needed to sleep with lights on in the room after 15 hours tripping on LSD, was too scared. Next morning my body looked like it is not a part of me. Scary movements of body parts I saw like in a horror movie. The hand of my girlfriend looked like that from a whitch, I thought it was alive. Too much mind fuck. On AL-LAD everything is smooth and in control. LSD is too much surprise for me. Nevertheless I will try 80 microgramm LSD to see if I can resonate with it again. Thanks for the advice. But still, is there a AL-LAD alternative out there? I want to experiment with yoga and short lasting psychedelics and AL-LAD had perfect body load for this

@TrynaBeTurquoise I feel not ready. I still want to test the waters. Had 10 AL-LAD Trips and one LSD high Dose. I look for something friendly like AL LAD right now, my girlfriend too I dont want to go too deep into existential issues right now

Could be mescaline a good substitute for ALLAD? Does nobody miss this great psychedelicum? I just know ALLAD and LSD. LSD is not so friendly and takes too long time

Parasite (2019) is one of the best movies I saw. This movie has everything.

Update: My girlfriend took 75 μg AL-LAD on holy christmas day in the evening. She was in good mood but a little nervous therefore I gave her a special massage (look for emotional therapy massage) for 45 minutes in the come up phase. Setting was in my room, she cleaned the air with frankincense. After massage I left her alone for 5 hours and waited in another room. It was extremely positiv she said. She wrote 54 pages during this trip and cried out of happiness and danced. She said her 3rd eyes were opened during the trip. She had many insights, but just wanted to share some of them with me: self love is the most important thing. Without self love you cannot really help others, You first the body you have is somehow just borrowed She wanted to know everything about AL-LAD and definitively try it again with same dose. She also said this is much stronger than anything she experienced with healing stones. On the next day in the morning she had a little hangover and was afraid if she has brain damage (thanks to anti drug propaganda on internet she read). She still was feeling the drug and was not really in her body. When she looked at her body she could not say if it was hers. It was foreign and unfamiliar for her. But gladly this went away in the afternoon. Anyone knows if this is something serious? In the evening she was a little depressed again so this trip did not cure her depression. Overall I think it was extremely positive for her with many insights about herself and she will definitively do it again once a month.

Hey everyone, since one year my 26 years old small girlfriend (11 inches) is chronical depressed. Furthermore she had several big trauma from her childhood, but now she has suicidal thoughts almost every week for months because of her study. I went long time ago with her to a psychologist, he said she should look for a shaman because she could have special abilities. Then I went with her to a psychiatrist long time ago, he scanned her brain. found nothing unusual. she has no schizophrenia. He diagnosted psychosis, gave her pills, she took 1/4 of recommended pill and felt really bad and never took it again. Besides she doesn't drink alkohol, takes no drugs at all just some coffee. My girlfriend is spiritually gifted, can see auras and energys since childhood without any spiritual training. She also sees ghosts everywhere. My girlfriend told me also that there was one situation in where she became the whole room. Furthermore I saw her having a real life ego death in front of me while meditating for just 15 minutes (rarely she does meditating, I sometimes push her), glad I know what happend so I did not intervened, I just hold her in my arms during this and her eyes were complete dead for some seconds, she looked completely through me. As she came back, she told me she were in the ocean and she dont want to talk about because I dont understand it anyway. There was also some situations where she had clairvoiance abilities. She also is very sensitive, feels pain extremely strong. Also when I give her a massage she can enter past lifes easily. When she uses healing stones, her reports from these sessions sound stronger than any lsd trip I ever had. Overall I think she is really tripping naturally all the time. I gave her 2 years ago first time 35 μg AL-LAD. She was back then in normal mood. She said, she almost had no effects at all, just had one moment during the trip where she had a little panic because she had a very deep insight but she forgot it. Now she want to try AL-LAD again in stronger dose. I think about giving her 75 μg AL-LAD. But I dont know if it is too strong for her. I know I have many responsibility for her, nobody can give me the right answer here. I just look for some people with similar situations like my girlfriend. Are there some people here with depression who took some psychedelics? Maybe also some girls here, who did this? What was the outcome? I know everyone is different but maybe I can learn something.

had one near death experience during obe. I can confirm that you can use obe for enlightenment. it is just brutal training too in the beginning (4-6 month 3 times per week) but then it gets easier