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@Loreena You have like a gift when it comes to common sense. Really awesome.

I will tell you the secret you refer to, and you will get very mad at me. Attitude. You have greatly underestimated healthy eating. Realize your attitude is made out of the food you eat, like all your cells and emergent experiences. You are filtering the Everything with your attitude and experiencing what is left. And what is left is shit. In your philosophies, which you think are accurate depictions of reality, and they are, you put the cart before the horse. I assume you think 'successful people' are lucky. What you don't see is that they learned to look at things differently. I am one to typically be preachy about quantum physics. But you desperately need something like Abraham Hicks. Just fucking try it. Try to ignore your reactionary attitude that says "that's stupid." It is that attitude that is preventing you from collapsing the reality that you want. The one where you don't work 8-12 hours a day, etc. Your attitude got you to where you are, and it can get you to where you want to be. Stop being so fucking stubborn brother. It is only hurting you! The thing successful people are addicted to, it attitude. You have simply underestimated this.

Not using the word work, genius imo. Liberation at it's best. "I could" also genius. Fuck yes to that! "tricking the brain' It's not a trick. You are changing your perception. Good for you! It is one of or perhaps the most difficult thing. The ego is so protective. All the best to you!

@Prabhaker With respect,- I enjoy purpose and I am not tense. I feel no conflict within me and I have goals. I am satisfied and I don't care what other poeple think about me, especially people who call other people neurotic. That reveals something about them, not me.

You are on the path for sure!!! This is some great inquiry and confidence! Here's my two cents- KEEP trying to reduce consciousness to an algorithm, it will lead you to see that consciousness can not be reduced. KEEP studying the double slit. Then quantum erasure. Then chaos theory. Then the uncertainty principle. Then go back to your 'life' with all that liberation and do your best to be nice. Aim to sooth others to transcend the quantum physics. That part probably does not make sense right now, it will later if you choose to take this path. You'll see that there will always be an answer for everything because Everything proposed the questions that tweaked your curiosity to begin with, and you are the Everything, and Everything IS choice. You literally are the center of the universe. KEEP noticing the difference between someone who put the time in like you are, and someone who never put the knowledge time in because they dismissed it all as theory. You have a trajectory to a balance that some can only dream of.

@avk123 Begin taking your emotions at face value.

@egoeimai Thanks....I think. How so?

You are hiding from an illusion. You created your connotation "hard work". So that is the belief you need to let go of. You're categorizing "hard work" and "purpose" in a way that does not benefit you. My compliments to you for your healthy habits and my apologies for assuming otherwise. That is a great feat!

@Loreena That hits me as a deep question. Here's what comes to mind. Right now I'm very happy, still, I can't define it, so I'll describe How I feel right now... Clarity, optimistic outlook, good 'mood',compassion, love, connectedness, knowing, no monkey mind, synchronized, healthy, energetic, confident....living to my potential and knowing it's capacity is expanding, excited for what I can't know is coming, accepting the ego me with love from the higher me, loving that I am unique and weird, comfort knowing there is no limit to what I can learn and experience, knowing when I leave my house today I get to see God in everyone, knowing all things of matter surrounding me no matter where I go is God, knowing my balance and trusting my judgements, knowing I will always be able to obtain more acute balance, loving the knowledge that honesty both to self and others is more powerful than shortcuts and clever thinking. I really appreciate that you asked me that question. I am literally even happier now for having focused on it! You rock Loreena!

Happiness. Now. Everything else revolves around this.

Alan Turing for bringing math to biology and proving we have free will with his Chaos Theories. I realize Boris 'completed' his equations and Lorenzo further it with the most substantial contribution, "the butterfly effect", but I think Turing was the game changer because he broke the most important paradigm possible. Turing proved that determinism is a product of the ego. (I am not trying to continue or begin a free will debate so please please please don't. If you are interested in realizing you have free will, simply watch a documentary on chaos theory. If you are convinced you don't have free will, I already believe you, no need to comment) If you do take an interest in Chaos, be sure not to leave out some knowledge gathering on topical mixing, the moons of Pluto, and how job guidance counselors are using chaos theory to more successfully match people to more fulfilling jobs. Also, get comfy with "stochastic". Just one more time for safe measure. This is a contribution to the topic, not a fee will debate invite.

@pluto That literally made me smile. Awesome.

Cop outs. Get in the game if you ever want to transcend yourself. Don't be retarded by the fragility of your ego. Getting through your fear of vulnerability in expressing your current understandings is not at all the same place as attaching to being right or wrong. Huge difference. It's about letting go.

@ashashlov Forgive my forwardness but I'm calling bullshit. It's not the tv or the comforts that ail you, it is your fitness level. What I'm trying to communicate right now is elusive as fuck but I'm doing my best in hopes it reaches you in a beneficial way. You have to do this almost impossible thing - you have to see through the illusion that your ego is creating. It is making up a story with a backdrop of justification with regards to "comfort". You must realize the wisdom in "The body IS the temple". Perhaps consider all the trouble the Egyptians went through to make temples/pyramids. Now consider what care, time and focus you do or don't allocate for your own 'temple'. You must break out of your repetition. That is not easy. It is far easier to do the most probable thing - more of the same. FUCK. THAT. TRAP. Put an elliptical or excercise bike in front of your tv. Buy jean that are the size you will be and hang them in a prominent place on the wall. Write your wieght / excercise goals on the wall. Listen to 'pumped' music. YouTube "Motivation", listen for as long and as many days as you need to. All this and whatever else you can think of will prime you subconsciously and you'll start to gravitate to better health, and a better temple. You have to put how you feel as always the most important thing, because that is where you learn or don't learn, expand or not, connect or not, etc. I hope this helps and yes I realize I'm being preachy and dickish but it's from compassion. The road away from enlightenment is paved with "I don't have enough time" "I don't have enough money" "I don't have the desire" "After I resolve my issues" "once my spouse does this" "When my kids are older" "When I get my own place" "When my boss does this" ALL TRAPS!!!!! The road to enlightenment is paved with "I can" "I am".

If anyone is interested, John Mayor wrote an album around this chart called "Room for Squares" i think.

I think the knowledge and experience and important, but what is generally most under appreciated is the diet and excercise components. When the topic of enlightenment comes up, knowledge, wisdom and experience always come up. Too rarely do we understand the importance of the care for the "lens' itself. The body is the temple. It is the vehicle. It is the communicator - the receiver - the processor. Excessive weight on the body causes resistance in the mind and a gross lack of clarity. To make matters worse, if the knowledge factor is high, being out of shape and lethargic from over eating only serves to increase the ego's illusion because we tend to create beliefs that support our poor health. Watch out for that trap. "It's an Illusion!"

It 'contains' many perspectives, as in your perception becomes less linear or one dimensional. Not enlightenment IS a perspective. You have to experience the difference to understand it. All the books and videos you mentioned will certainly help, but there is a 'POP' of mind expansion that happens eventually, and then you will see what I'm trying to communicate. Regarding the ego - you're on the right track, delusion is helpful in the way you reference, because you realize to question it. High praise there. Try not to think of the ego as "false'. It's a good thing, as it is a gateway to this whole experience. It is also a good thing to let it go and see beyond it, which it sounds like you will. I get the impression you 'naturally' learn and pursue these things, which is awesome. The "empirical investigation, the self inquiry, meditation, healthy eating, excercise, mindfulness and awereness growth are all IMO equally necessary components of the recipe for the fore mentioned "POP". You are on the right track. Do some self inquiry on which of those categories, if any, you may be lacking in, put some time and focus there, and I bet you have that pop within a year or so. Godspeed my friend.

For sure! I love that! I watched 2001 A Space Odyssey the other day for the second time in about 10 years and it blew my mind.

@Evilwave Heddy Go ahead and use this opportunity to comment or que up a 'point'. You have to let the fear go. This site is good for that as it is anonymous Humility is beneficial, but discussing, even debating, is also beneficial. I find there are times when I think I understand something and a good debate will help me see what I might not have learned yet, then I learn more. It's a great gap filling excercise. Yes, sometimes I end up looking / feeling like an ass, but I walk away from it with more clarity on my ego, a little more info on communication skills, and some more knowledge on a subject. The thing about fear is, "It's an illusion!"

@Christian Enlightenment 'contains' many perspectives at once, so paradigms don't appear as riddles. It makes it easy to spot the inconsistent perspectives that make it appear to seem conflicting.

How do you reconcile Chaos Theory and Free Will?

@Wouter You are on the tip of a major breakthrough. An analogy in hopes it helps, - in our perceived reality there is constant motion, you take a picture, and when you put your focus on the picture, it doesn't look like anything is moving (in the photo). Then you return your focus back to the the room or whatever and there is motion again. Just go one more layer, and perhaps the fluidity in the everything is our more default state, outside or after this 'photo' or life / ego. You can connect to it here, but we peoples are tricky as fuck. Beliefs are like the ego's tentacles, but to us they feel like warm blankets. I think all roads lead to the everything and that it is good. Enjoying the ride is just as important as time in and focus. One removes the doors and the other welcomes home the truth.

The moment you are so one with everything that you could manifest a flying car, you no longer desire a flying car.

@bobbyward That's awesome! There will be similar changes in vision, how you experience music, intuition, etc, etc. More slight but more impactful. From my experience, keep at it, and you'll have a 'pop' out of the blue or in meditation, that is a game changer. The kind you are permanently changed by. It's awesome and most worthwhile.

@Bodhi123 That made me remember my first World Religions class. It blew my mind when the teacher started the first day with writing on the board "Unanswerable Questions", and then proceeded to sum all religions up with that. I was thinking - holy shit, every person in here is about to tell her what an idiot she is! (Because that's what I was used to people saying to me as I grew up in a predominantly religious neighborhood and I did not care for it) First time I heard someone, especially a teacher when I was that young, express what I thought was normal. Instant mind expansion. Man I was innocent then. Lol!