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@Atb210201 Is there a belief that there is a you in the body, or is there a direct experience of a you in the body?

Psychedelics are funny in a unique way. If there is thought activity during the trip, the truth sort of says ‘oh really, point to what that thought is referring to’, and there is much laughter about words which are like similar.

@Atb210201 Resisting what?

@Inliytened1 ? ”Such a lonely word” - Billy Joel

If you’re awake in your sleep then there isn’t actually any sleep.

Honesty.

But I do. I see the justification loop like you see the sun.

The assumption is that you’re alive, and thus, it is assumed there is death. The tricky thing about assumptions & beliefs, is one believing doesn’t realize it is a belief. So, we investigate our direct experience, dispelling beliefs to discover the Truth. Or, we just settle for beliefs, which appear as nothing more than other people’s opinions & ideas. When the suffering of the discord of the beliefs reaches a tipping point, look into Schrödinger's cat, the double slit, the Buddha’s understanding of suffering, and thought attachment. Contemplate how those can be true for a couple years or so. Ignorance is divine perfection, nothing to judge. Nobody’s knocking your path, just pointing out the obvious… a belief is a belief. Doesn’t matter where it comes from or who else beliefs the same.

How to justify the murder of approximately three million six hundred thousand others: “There are known knowns, things we know that we know; and there are known unknowns, things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns, things we do not know we don’t know.” ”The reality is…. the terrorists can attack any time at any minute 24 hours a day, using a variety of techniques, in any place at all. And it’s not possible to defend in every place, against every technique, against every conceivable approach. It means that you can’t stop every terrorist attack. Innocent men, women and children are going to be killed if terrorists are determined to do it.” I think the real key, the real brilliance, is you have to use the reason for your justified actions as the very reason you don’t have to testify, or, acknowledge truth. No one fear mongered will notice the justification loop. Hysterical.

? Ah yes indeed. Just One infinite terrified Being. Much love! Time to open the ashram and rejoice!

Because of the denial. Cause they hold more denial than say, yellow or turquoise.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/72744-awakening-is-fucking-terrifying/#comment-1001556 Same “knower”.

@Oskar89 The word yoga means unity. Unity uproots all beliefs, because all beliefs are of some other thing. Even self referential beliefs, like I’m _______. Yogafying, one is liberated of beliefs, dogma, conjecture, identity, and therefore, all suffering. The western connotation of religion is identity, and belonging to an organization - being this, and not that, being one of us, and not one of them, being in the right bunch, not the wrong bunch. To it’s most unconscious, it’s being good (me), and not bad or evil (other). This western connotation is indoctrinated into new westerners, and projected onto those in the east, like Hindu’s & Hinduism, because the west doesn’t realize religion is a belief (so the belief is projected). To a Hindu, there really isn’t a “religion” called “Hinduism”, or even Hindu’s, there is unity, without any need for beliefs, identifying, dogma, conjecture, belonging, or projecting. Words like heaven, nirvana, etc, are eastern in origin. In any case, uproot all judgement and you’ll find you truly needed nothing.

Only an illusory self could be transcended, only an actual self could be actual. Don’t ask me though, because I’m the illusory one. Which there isn’t.

If the finite mind were a hand, and you were to look into the actual cause of the earthquake, and the cause of that, and of that and of that, eventually that hand would appear to come from the other direction and slap your face. Because of course, the hand is your face. The knower tries to understand and make sense of what the knower knows, because a knower can not know there is no knower. The Humpy Dumpty trap, trying to make a whole of pieces.

@Kalki Avatar Not that I disagree, I get ya, but I meant there isn’t even anyone ‘there’ ‘selling enlightenment’, let alone a ‘regretter regretting some thing’. A ‘regret’ is really inspiration ime, like an yet-unwrapped gift. Much like ‘the manipulator’ and ‘the liar’. Whereas desire and motive for a thing works, regret & no thing is inevitably consciously creating. The ‘new’ feeling meets the old thinking / lens. As if God’s love makes anything and everything God like. Go figure. Lol.

The checkmate of dumbery. @Godishere Infinite perspectives, as in an infinite number of or unlimited amount of perspectives… vs… infinite perspectives, like, lego houses - what “a thing” (“perspective”) is made of. And there is not, two. (Infinite and perspective…me and my perspective…me and infinite…me which gets realized…me which is imagining, etc)

40 days seems to be the ideal. From now till then I wouldn’t think of what you’ll do, I’d think of the retreat as the ending of the doer doing. Get all the doin in now, let it go altogether then. Empty out first few days. Ideally through an expressive creative medium you enjoy. Music, specifically singing is best ime. But whatever you love most is best. Then trip. Then do nothing. Be aware of thoughts arising, the old story. Don’t buy in, don’t resist. Be the awareness. Which is not a doing of course. Notice all doing is arising as thoughts. Stay ever curious of perception & feeling. ‘Do’ only and every thing you love. All things you enjoy. And be mindful of the fact it’s happening, but no one is doing it. I’d also have (only) two or three of these a day for three days prior to the retreat, to clean out and wake up the bodymind systems. No starving or hunger, just not too little, not too much. I‘d also suggest having that throughout the trip but contingent on how you feel after the three days of it. Been solo retreating in airbnb’s for years and love it. Camping was great but somewhat unpredictable & thus potentially arduous, especially tripping. Houses are ime not really that trip enhancing. So it narrowed down to log cabins and there are a ton out in the woods. Secluded, on the water, and nothing but wood & stone is the ideal trippery ime. It’s nature vibe wether you’re inside or out. No earthy materialism ‘stuff’ (such as in houses) to bring any thoughts to mind, and thus easier unwinding & untangling. As to when, ime a few days every month (or whatever is feasible) is best.

@Alfonsoo Go prior to what’s required for the the report, much, much deeper. When you mention nondual it’s intuitive. When you add ‘riddled’ it isn’t, it’s self defeating. Contemplate why people are talking about pro life and pro choice and never getting anywhere. Since when is that even a thing, as in a topic? How’d the first word of it arise? Why? As you contemplate, when some thoughts or perspectives feel off, probe deeply into feeling… what feels off and why exactly. Don’t settle for the debating.

They didn’t break any laws though. Brought this to mind. Formidable life purpose.

@Javfly33 I would call that true quality of life as well. I see who was in quotes. What’s a state? I have a wife, three kids, three businesses and am three months into creating a fourth (business lol). I have absolutely no control over anything. Indeed blissful. Wife used to get weirded out & a bit annoyed by me waking up in the morning while laughing. Now we both do. What’s survival?

Going Prior. It is easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle, than for a beautiful woman to enter the kingdom.

@Strangeloop If there’s a chance you’ll harm yourself or someone else, seek help immediately. Choose non-doing over doing anything you might regret. Breathe & relax. Beliefs about yourself aren’t resonating. Has nothing to do with her or abundance. Abundance is the default, it’s what is. There’s nothing you can do to get what is. Let beliefs go and you end up there. Which is here, just, minus the beliefs. Next step with her is no step with her. Take some time to express and understand emotions. Untangle yourself, and when you love what you’ve got there so to speak, go share it with her. Amid so much complexity, distraction and never ending potential for confusion, see one thing clearly - you are only ‘dealing with’ your beliefs about yourself. No more, no less. Not saying it’s easy, but it is simple. A temptation of rebuttal to add complexity highlights the importance of daily morning meditation, or simply, slowing everything down. Godspeed. For a relative glimpse of how fast you been goin, watch a tree grow.

I could tell you what I mean and infinite wouldn’t know that either.

One possibility is that it is a belief which is un-digestible, and that belief might be that stomach sensation is not kundalini related. Could be a hamster wheel or loop, sort of bouncing back & fourth between the belief & the discomfort without realizing / exiting the loop. Go poop, essentially. Spiritually speaking. ?