Nahm

@Ilya Let your definitions change. Romantic relationships are cocreating experiences of reunion of the deeper one. That's what all the love's about. Like Leo said on the other post, enlightenment first love second. The less two people know themselves, the more of a roller coaster a relationship will be. Paradoxically, the faster they learn what they aren't. With a little unified direction, couples can greatly aid in each other's personal practices with encouragement, sharing insights, having epiphanies together, etc.

@Leo Gura That's Awesome.

@Joseph Maynor yep

@beaucoup discovering what I am has worked out best for me. Do that. Listen to Leo. Meditate before you listen to him. The only thing in question is how much you can hear.

@Principium Nexus ??

@Principium Nexus Principium Nexus is illusion "experiencing". The practices increase awareness to the point of enlightenment. When that happens there's no more "you" "experiencing", You Are The Awareness of the dude who has the experiences. Then, experience is to awareness like your vision is to your thinking. (all of which are part of the illusion) hope that's helpful.

@Joseph Maynor nice Jo!

@momo its a dream. all awareness is the consciousness itself, the fabric of dreams. in the illusion, consciousness limits itself, so there's a mouse, and also an Einstein. Both are consciousness / awareness. If you and your friend do the things Leo is telling you, the practices, you would both eventually see you are the same dreamer. It's blissful, but you'll have to trade your very selves for it. What makes it awesome, is that the illusion is fubu (for you by you). Also awesome is that built into your illusion, is a special twist just for you, where you get to start from right Now, with a false premise that reality is real, you're doing the breathing, you're beating your heart, logic is paramount, you are real, imagination is make believe, you actually die one day, you don't have a relationship with reality, and God is seperate and possibly judging you. Good luck!!

@ZX_man awesome. thanks!

@ZX_man it's just thoughts man. Don't follow those. Get something else in your ears & eyes. Something you like. Long term, do you meditate every day? Once, twice? All Is Well brother. This too will pass, and this too will open a new door for you, like all other challenges have. The ego / identity is always ready to point you in the wrong direction like this. But that's all it is. Get back to your practices of well being, and 24-7 awareness of your breathe. Everybody here loves you!

@Brivido it's you

@Joseph Maynor definitions matter here. Awareness is awareness. Belief is belief. belief is not awareness. asking if something is the truth is like asking if you got hit by a bus. You know when you get hit by a bus. You know when you are the Truth. Vision, hearing, relationship with your body, clarity, love, compassion, laughter - all go through the roof. As if you're aware of them for the first time. It is impossible to remember what it was like before. Every time you try to remember, you laugh!!! like how you see a small child - they're innocent, and sweet, they mess up, but they don't know and it's adorable! That is how awareness sees Jo! Unconditional Love! Also, the instant you see that the whole thing is you, all fear, all doubt, any lack of confidence, is GONE! (Illusion is required for fear.) That you will die one day - GONE! Being irritated by anyone - GONE! That roller coaster of motivation, stress, meditation, repeat, repeat - GONE!

@Joseph Maynor I am awareness. Nahm has experiences.

@MiracleMan I suffered from "manic depression" for a while, a long time ago. I use the quotes because what I actually suffered from was not meditating, so I had almost no focus and my thoughts wandered aimlessly in a world of elusive & overwhelming stimulation. Have you went a month or two of daily meditation & 24/7 breathing awareness? That is what work for me. Pills, therapy, eating like a pig - none of that helped me. It made it worse. I hope you get back to 100! Depression sucks! You have a community here for you.

@Anna1 sorry.....that was the whole joke. Cause if you look in front of you right now, its actually a void, and me. In hindsight, it was not really funny. At all.

@Anna1 wanna see my impression of a void?

@Anna1 you're a saint in my book! Thank you!!!

@Joseph Maynor and how do you know that? @Dodo You are awesome!... and, who is this God you mentioned? @Anna1 Nurses are angels from heaven!

@Edvard I feel you. I get what you're saying. Our experience changes our definitions. Well, fuck....back to the practices.

@Edvard If no one is right or wrong then there is no Truth so just stop doing all your practices. You're wasting your time.

@Joseph Maynor If there is free will, there is you doing. There is no free will, because in reality, there is no you. Believing in free will = believing in the illusion. I spent a year or so on free will. Please let me do you a solid here....either start making a super serious case for free will until it contributes to breaking your mind open so become enlightened, or just let it go and spend the time doing your practices.

@Joseph Maynor the reason to talk is because you are still in the illusion. The only other reason to talk is you are not in the illusion, but someone else is, and you decide to give a shit about them, even though you already see they are you, or me, depending on which mind we're talking about. Love you Jo!

@Edvard DO EVERYTHING LEO IS TELLING YOU! The death of the ego is a DEATH OF YOU. You. Will. fucking. die. Then you'll be infinite, but alone. Then you'll be right back in the illusion, but you know it's an illusion. You'll know that it's YOUR illusion. It takes a long time. You'll need to get from where you are now to non-thinking. Everything you said doesn't matter because the brain that's thinking it and the mouth that's saying it is an illusion. What does matter is doing the practices. There is no better or more all encompassing master than Leo. Just wake up and do what he's telling you. Let all the questions go, that is practicing in itself. Notice them arise in your mind, and let them go. After you let it go, notice how everything is the same. Had you said it, it would have made no progress for you.

@John You SHOULD be shitting your pants every second of every day because there you are not knowing what the fuck you even are so how could you possibly be expected to operate relative to anything at all, right? I mean, WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON RIGHT!?!?!?! You are wrestling with confidence issues. You are not neurotic. It's ok. You are THE ONE. The real One. you just haven't let go of this illusory self yet, and that's perfect. It's ok! You're at the perfect place at the perfect time in all of infinitey! I mean, really, what are the chances???? You can just ask Leo!!! The catch is, you gotta actually fucking do what he says. Don't filter it down to what you want to do now and what you'll surely do later, etc, etc, etc BULLSHIT He's like you're own personal coach / angel and he's telling you without even asking for anything in return. Let go of your concept of a Saint and wake the fuck up and do everything he is telling you to do. You're this infinite One who created this illusion. Now you're in the illusion as John. Part of the illusion that you made is to be John and John get's to discover the Truth because he was born as a SEPERATE THING. But of course, you're not actually a seperate thing. That's just part of the grandest most mind blowing illusion of all time. The confidence issue can be resolved, immediately, right now, in 1 of two ways. Be tough, brave, focused, and adopt an attitude fit to conquer the world... or .... realize everything is One and you are that One. When you die, you're that One again, and it's a little lonely being the only thing there is. So you'll do more illusions. When you look at other people, look right into their eyes and realize it's you!!!! Ultimately you are alone. There is nothing to fear because whatever you think is just part of the illusion. In summation, the next time you feel that shit, say to yourself "I'm alone". Be grateful for every person you see and you will be a happy drunk for the rest of your life!

@Edvard There is only one way. You are illusory. You are nothing. When you accept that, you are enlightened. Everything else snaps right into place.