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@Tobia I don’t think it’s over simplifying to say, all ya have to do is not watch it. “Fact checker”. For AT&T maybe.

@HypnoticMagician God is unconditional thus not allowing or disallowing. Karma is all the barfing of ambition, pride, manipulation, greed, etc, etc, etc we’ll all do so we don’t pass the conditioning on to the kids, which are God, which is why justice thinking does not work / perpetuates the same conditioning and karma. It’s a denial of innocence, The Truth. Imo we don’t need to create a unified non discriminating religion, as we are already all humans, and there isn’t an other. Just, us. For comparison if interested… Immutable Law of Cause & Effect

You are projecting apparent finite aspects of emotions and the finite mind onto infinite mind, which really is infinite, and thus does not have any thing to understand or not, or be patient or impatient about or towards. It’s helpful to think of these as conditional, and God being unconditional, with even the word God being a condition as it implies other. Not necessarily, but it seems to be at play in this case. Understand emotions, and thought attachment via thoughts like ‘my mind’, and infinite mind will be realized, by not-other. Love is indeed without limit (conditions). You would probably realize some clarity in researching & understanding indoctrination & conjecture, and that contradiction is a thought, not contradiction.

Not only is this possible, without the conjecture it is readily felt to be already actual. The ‘you’ which is ‘in’ a state is just a thought and not you. When this is missed, a belief arises that there is better feeling, in ‘the better state’. There is an illusion of thought such that there is this state which you’re in, and that state you are desiring to be in… because that’s the ‘higher’ or ‘better feeling state’. This is illusory because the comparison is not to any actual thing, as in, there is the thought there is the comparison of states, but when you actually look for or attempt to define the states, it is readily seen there aren’t any. This is the hamster wheel of ‘state chasing’. That better feeling can not actually ever be experienced, because the belief hijacks the fact that feeling is already present and already good. Likewise, consider, obviously you do want a girlfriend. Scrutinize why though. Is it because you belief you’re feel better once in that state, or situation. Or is it for the experience of a relationship, spending time together, etc. Seeking someone with the expectation you will feel better objectifies them and this is like a backwards magnet. It doesn’t attract. No one wants to be someone else’s object. A thing which is seen as serving someone else’s happiness. Notice how these ways of thinking result in statements like “I don’t want to feel this way’, and, ‘I want to be a person of confidence and not regret and shame’. Do you really believe confidence, regret and shame are descriptive of people… vs what people experience? Is there regret guy, shame lady, and confidence man? Obviously these describe a person’s experience, and not the person. This is the value of the emotional scale. It’s about emotions we all experience, and understanding them. It’s not about you, but about what you are experiencing. Notice depression, states, sadness & despair are not on the scale. This is because they are self referential conceptualizations, not emotions. This is the heart of the confusion and the suffering. The more this is understood, the more it is seen the emotions are relaying guidance in regard to what thoughts you focus on, and what thoughts you let go. You are already the man who doesn’t need to prove anything. That’s pride of self image. Just, thoughts which are in discord with truth, with you. It’s putting what you think other people think about you - above how you yourself feel. When you put how you feel above anything you think, momentum builds and you experience the emotions higher on the scale, and this is like flipping the attraction magnet in the attracting direction.

Why is it said that ‘the devil is in hell’? What does conditioning and judgement have to do with this if anything. Thank you.

? There’s no “it”. However you are is perfect. There is no ego behind a need to be parallel, and there is no need to be parallel. It’s what’s already the case. You might say we are all God’s children, or we are all the same awareness or consciousness, or that we all share that there is experience. When self referential thoughts are believed, that doesn’t seem to be the case, because in believing thoughts there seems to be a ‘separate self’. That would be ‘the ego’, which is only an illusion of believing the thoughts. The believing of said thoughts is commonly referred to as ‘thought attachment’, which is suffering because it is what is not illusory identifying with what is illusory. One believes one ‘has knowledge’, and then egoic defensive mechanisms of deflection and projection dictate attitude, behavior and actions. This ‘slips under the radar’ because of the nature of beliefs, and this is what is pointed to with ‘the devil being in hell’ (suffering).

How you feel is more important than what you think. Prove me wrong.

As you said, these are ideas. The world is a rainbow. Meditatively let thought activity of us & them go. There aren’t materialists, materialism is a belief, an ism. Be mindful not to impose a ‘point’ on experience, communication, togetherness, etc. It is in & of itself the ‘point’. It’s definitely ok to enjoy all aspects of experience. Watch out for the higher thans / above others thoughts (arrogance of knowing) & humble brags (pride of knowledge), and be mindful it is not knowledge which is suffering, only the illusion of having it. The devil consists of such thoughts, as the devil is the angel which refuses to be parallel with mankind. It’s preference. I’d make a dreamboard. After expressing much of what you desire to create & experience, people seem to change in context. It is as if they are angels, coming right out of the woodwork to help. Looks like ordinary texts, emails, phone calls, random bumping into someone, etc. Be mindful in these events of what is on your dreamboard, and of angels. Also be mindful everyone has a dream within them, and notice your own conscious angelry.

@WokeBloke See if a separation can be found between what is seen, the seeing, the knowing of the seeing, and the awareness of. Inspect until no question remains. Words, as communication, label but never define. So there’s no suggestion there are these separate things, only the invitation to inspect rather than conceptualize.

@fopylo ?? Conditions are movie stuff. When conditions are let go there is contentment with now as is. Without thinking of yourself, without comparing, etc.

That’s the other component of the model, thought.

Sensation refers to feeling. Perception refers to seeing, hearing, etc.

There is. I’d consider the distinction between constructed as in thought, or via finite mind, and appearance which can’t be thought. An example would be sexuality is a constructed concept, but the appearance sexuality is prior to self and other.

Replace loneliness time with developing a talent with what you love time and you’ll turn what is troublesome into what is the greatest of experience. We all become an icing on that cake. What arises is curative, not some thing to be cured. Ego isn’t a thing one is and no longer be’s, but is the thought activity in & of itself, that one is separate (an ego). The connotations clear out by popping in a different word, like frog. ‘I’m a frog right now’.

@Zeroguy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_(psychology)

@Zeroguy https://neal.fun/deep-sea/

@Surfingthewave What’s already there is suffering. Connotation can’t be projected, but the thought can be believed. (That it can).

@Surfingthewave I agree with you, but I’m saying for as long as feeling is misinterpreted one is stuck. To say that there is a sense of a separate self as opposed to the thought of and discord therein is misinformation. This is just an opinion of course. Misery loves company applies to all emotions. The whole lens of reality is skewed by that misinterpretation. Everything seen and heard is skewed by that misinterpretation. The left hand can’t see what the right hand is doing. The intention is to break free from the ego, while the behavior is the defense of the very opposite. Because of that misinterpretation.

The manual is meditation, and the emotions are the compass. Sometimes this is actually learned most deeply by not using them at all. Sometimes we end up home by looking under every rock. We try putting everything in, to let everything out.

@Raptorsin7 Your preferences are only your business. Privatized by default. You don’t have to feel bad about them, or worry about anybody else’s. That’s their business. Expression (like you are) is the key. Parts catch up with the whole that way. We can’t make a home for shame and discrimination. We each have to do the work so to speak, of letting it go. We’ll never shame and discriminate enough to whipe out shame and discrimination. When we express though, we empty a bit, and are filled by source a bit. It’s the pinnacle of experience imo. The very, very edge. We are all free to make room. Express like your enlightenment depends on it! Build trust with the universe by bringing attention away from thought narratives, and to direct experience. The more you do, the more you see that it is good. Feel the relief in humility, in the recognition of not knowing. We don’t know what’s really going on somewhere we’re not. We don’t know how many people stop judging tonight, or tomorrow. We don’t know what we might let go of ourselves. And again, we only know each other’s preferences if we share them. They all arise of the same source. It’s a very beautiful thing. We are all free to bring into focus, what we do want. We are all free to let things go. Go to that part of you until there is no part. Express whatever arises. Whatever you give your attention to in this way is bettered by default of the nature of your attention. It’s a legit superpower. Not the kind awakening gets us, but the kind that wakes us up.

@Raptorsin7 Are you concerned perhaps that if you express your preferences you will be judged, un-accepted, or that you might judge yourself so to speak? Seems like you kinda of want them to feel bad for expressing their preferences.

Definition of ism: 1: a distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory 2: an oppressive and especially discriminatory attitude or belief

Thought can not resolve thought, believing you are separate can not resolve believing you are separate, killing can not resolve killing. Like all of us, you’re free to directly experience. @billiesimon Iknowright?! Are we dining at the Taco Bell of spirituality?

@Virtus My man you are dealing with pride, arrogance, thought attachment, and aversion of feeling via self image and self referential pressure thinking. There is a belief you will feel better when you are your vision of a successful athlete, and that belief is used to suppress what you are feeling now. I am saying what I’m saying here in an intention of helping, that you might consider what’s being said, not to offend you in anyway. Just as a reference to reveal a glimpse of beliefs, repeating thoughts, being the epicenter of this suffering… wether or not you eat fast food or play sports has literally no significance at all. If that gives any impression that I am being cold, allow that thought and feeling experience to come and go and then look again. The hope here is that you realize the beliefs you’re holding. That you get what’s really going on with this suffering of not being able to break the cycle is thought attachment. To continue to think about food and what to do about it, as you are discovering, does not create any change. But change can be effortlessly created.

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