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Suffering ends where humility begins. That thought is not your greatest fear. Fear describes how it feels when you focus on that thought. It discordant with the truth that you are creating, and can focus on what you do want… that’s why it feels that way. If self help isn’t working, try therapy etc, get some help. Take advantage of all resources available to you. That is also self help. Don’t just try one or two or three things, find what works. If there is trauma, go to a trauma specialist. Making false claims feels like making false claims. It isn’t right or wrong, it’s innocent ignorance, and yet it is also discordant. When you focus on these thoughts, you feel that way. That you are a junkie, that there are states, that ‘yours’ is naturally ‘negative and depressive’… imaging being homeless, thinking of yourself as a failure, that you can’t handle life… the discord of these thoughts does weigh on and take a toll on the body. All of these thoughts create discord because none of these thoughts are true about you. The body is the truth, listen to how the body feels, not thoughts. Listen to the emotions, not thoughts. There is nothing wrong with ‘where you’re at’. Nothing wrong with having 20k of debt. Nothing wrong with receiving help from your parents or anyone else. There isn’t really anything ‘wrong’ with judgement either, but there is how discordant judging is in terms of feeling. The end of suffering could also be said to be the choice of feeling better, vs believing discordant thoughts. No one can shift focus for you, but there is otherwise more than enough help available to help you to. There is only now. That this was let go is a false claim, evidenced by the focus upon it now. I agree, no amount of thinking adds up to letting it go. I don’t mean that flippantly, but for your well being. It is good to realize if the way I feel is related to that there is falsity and thus discord, in what I am believing and saying about myself. That tells me much about myself, if I listen to how I feel. There is no future to stop. It’s the thought, now, that is discordant. This is worrying, and it would feel better to acknowledge that sometimes doubtful thoughts do arise, and worrying and doubting results in disappointment, and so on. Fear isn’t a thought, fear is an emotion. Emotion is guidance for humble newbs. If feeling better is desired, willingly let the discordant claims making go. Let it go. That is the only way there can be the experience of a different perspective. Use the scale to express each emotion. ? Thought is not something to get rid of, ‘something to get rid of’ is a thought. There is no problem with thought. The change desired is in attitude. ‘Persistent thought’, is one thought, just like ‘a hundred thoughts’ is one thought. A golden attitude is within you already to be allowed to shine.

?? Meditation addresses the ego in a way, but is not for the ego. There is no effort involved. Like life, meditation is not a means to an end.

Meditatively, or expressively using the scale. Just pop ‘people’ in where ‘thoughts’ is, and it’s immediately clearer. If it resonates… inclusivity rather than exclusivity. What works well for the mind works well for the planet. “For me it is the thought of a separate self” When you see it, bricks will be shat. Much relief will ensue. Best be lighthearted and not all clench-like, as humor is sometimes sudden. “Get over them” Them implies not me. Therein is ‘the elusive separate self’. The ‘me’ which ‘they or them’ are not. The ‘separate’ self. Discordant thoughts aren’t powerful, but are thoughts. It’s you that is powerful. That is why there is discord, with the thought.

Yep. Makes sense here. Listened to that first one. Really beautiful, and some cool unique details really resonated. Easy to see how her book stands to be total game changer. ‘Barbara.’ ? ?

@PepperBlossoms In a dream it could seem like there is time, and that it’s passing, and therein that there is a beginning and an end, and that time has passed, and now the end has come, and you’re dying. Then, it’s reveled there wasn’t time or death, just the unwillingness to meditate as to no longer believe the thoughts, ‘time’, and ‘death’, and ‘dream’. The relief in any case is love, bliss. The resistance in any case was conjecture, which was the dream. Because the conjecture was the dream, it was only the thoughts which were believed. Then, as The Enlightened One, you’d surely dream again, only, this time you’d know it was a dream because you’d surely meditate vs believing the thoughts. Even in spite of infinite not knowing finite, surely, you’d listen to The Enlightened One. There would be absolutely no reason not to ‘listen to yourself’. Sans, again, believing the thoughts, seemingly derived of, conjecture. “Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ — then you should enter & remain in them.” Nonetheless, you could ignore The Enlightened One and bear the suffering while doing so. The Enlightened One, of course is not a person, but is you. ? The conjecture would have of course precisely been in regard to, The Enlightened One. But it is you which believed the thoughts. “Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ — then you should enter & remain in them.”

Not two.

@RevoCulture All ‘answered’ by awakening.

@Mesopotamian I hear you. It’s how unthinkably simple and obvious it is, no? Countries are made of communities, communities are made of families, families are made of a bond. Families barbecue with families, have a beer, golf, have dinner, etc, whatever. Not to get more, not to top each other, not to win. Simply to be and celebrate what is. Presidents can stop playing games and respect the significance of the bond anytime. As simply as for how it feels. We can’t make a rocket big enough or a bomb lethal enough to get out of this bond.

Make a dreamboard. Write and focus upon what you really want. It will be. The evidence of this, is that you wanted the job you have, and have it. Use the emotional scale to see through projection, to begin to accept, understand & receive the guidance in regard to beliefs. Namely, lack, shortage, etc. One can hold discordant beliefs / interpretations, and yet feel good enough to get by from the highs of fitness. But purpose & motivation runs it’s course, the discord gets most tiresome, and only inspiration ultimately will sustain.

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Pessimism is an emotion directly experienced. It is guidance in regard to the thoughts you’re focusing on and projecting. “You have to let it all go, Neo. Fear, doubt, and disbelief. Free your mind.” Freedom is freedom from thought attachment. If you ‘suicide yourself’, you’ll not be free, you’ll end up exactly right back here, experiencing aversion. Call a trained specialist now. Don’t wait or put it off. https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines Attention is presently outward, to concepts, conceptualizations of religions, etc. Reorient inward, and feel, and understand what you are feeling. Start expressing. Find a good therapist or guru. Utilize the internet for your well being, instead of this.

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I was sixty pounds overweight also. That was around 25 years ago. Weight has only fluctuated by a pound or two ever since. I also believed ‘I can’t tolerate this feeling’. But then I chose not to over eat, and feel the feeling I had made out to be ‘so big’ instead. It seemed like I wouldn’t be fine if I didn’t avert from feeling and eat, but what was found was, it turned out I was fine. More so, upon the direct experience of literally just sitting in a comfy chair instead of over eating… it was actually what I wanted. It felt great. It’s empowering to ‘bust beliefs’ by literally doing nothing, it feels great. Stop trying to ‘tolerate’ feeling… and start allowing feeling. If it simply is ‘too much’, go to therapy, use the emotional scale, write in a journal - just start expressing & no longer suppressing feeling. “It” is what you actually want. On a practical note… upon no longer overeating, the stomach shrinks. The intensity of hunger from a history of overeating diminishes. To whatever extent you presently can, exercise every morning, first thing. Then meditate.

“No matter how much Peter loved her, what made the Pan refuse to grow was that the hook brings you back - I ain’t tellin you no lie! The hook brings you back, on that you can rely”. JP

‘Seeing’ is, lightly put, perception. And… there is also the experience of thoughts, like important, special, needy, not needy, etc. So to speak, if you find yourself believing you need someone else to be able to feel the happiness that you are, reorient inward (vs continuing to focus on & believe the thoughts). Another way to point, in believing thoughts, it can seem like the great feeling is coming from someone else. Simply take pause, and inspect. Where is feeling, right now, actually, coming from?

If it is believed there is a “seeker” & a “cycle of life & death”, it is the belief which is “broken”, as in dispelled, or seen through… (“seeing reality as it is”). There isn’t a realization which ‘breaks’ anything. The realization is more ‘why was that ever believed in the first place? How was that an I was born and could die ever believed? That’s preposterous! ?’. Reality = infinite. Inherently undefinable. Forms is a ‘personal’ belief. Thought attachment. Let all thought activity, which is the same as saying all beliefs, go into meditation. Only The Truth could possibly remain. Same applies, let that belief go too, and then there is perfect clarity as to ‘what it is’. The Truth, which remains when all thought activity settles. ‘Conditioning’ is a term which points to all the beliefs to be let go. Not “imaged up”, thought attachment. Without beliefs, love is so… love. The Truth literally could not be any simpler. It’s only thought attachment & conjecture which seems to “complicate”. For that to persist, thought must continue to be believed. All “complexity” is in actuality, believing thoughts, or simply, beliefs. Notice thoughts are arising… notice thoughts are thoughts… return attention to feeling breathing from the stomach. Infinity, Truth, is ineffable & unthinkable. If you know The Truth, rest assured, ‘that ain’t it’, and simply return attention to feeling breathing in the stomach. Someone is not going to come along who / which can meditate ‘for you’, who / which can let beliefs fall away ‘for you’, anymore than someone could ever come along and tell you what is ineffable, or assist in a ‘right or proper thinking’ which dispels beliefs attached too. Just an apparent piece of advice… Any time you’re about to watch a video of talking about The Truth - simply don’t. Meditate and or do whatever you love most instead. If you are to continue believing, let it be in that feeling, and not what is seen and or heard, especially if it seems to be arising from a mouth. (Including this one!)

@OBEler (Illustration you mentioned is around 5:05 here)

@Preety_India Love.

‘Feeling more awake’ might be ‘head is clear of discordant thoughts about masturbation now’. Inspecting any judgmental thoughts and the discord therein might be the way to go. Perhaps there was a parent, friend, religious person, or maybe certain media or content which lead to believing masturbation is bad, and no fap etc is good. The way to be in control of life, is to let go of control, which is to say to recognize thoughts which imply there is a separate self, which is in control. Seeing through the facade, if you will. For example, the “I” (thought) as if (believed) a separate self which could be ‘more or less awake’.

@Leo Gura ??❤️

The comments are to the topic. Changing the topic doesn’t change the ignorance. Drinks sounds great! No one is needed ?

There is no monk, no enlightened beings, no full enlightenment, no photograph. You can not burn yourself, you can so to speak, recognize yourself.

What’s being said here, is there is a God, which is love, joy, peace, and oneness… yet, likes to suffer and experience painful things. What’s being said here, is that there is also an I, which arrives at, achieves, reaches, or perhaps obtains… and leaves… states. What’s being said here, is ‘why would I make it so hard for me to see that I am God and everything else is God?’ Paraphrasing slightly, ‘why does God make it so hard for God to see that God is God?’ But, is pain a thing? Is suffering, a thing? Is God, a thing? Is love a thing? Is joy a thing? Is peace a thing? Is oneness a thing? Is I, a thing? First; what is, a thing?

@Preety_India ?? The beauty you are is truly overwhelming.

“No self, no problem” - No one. ?