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@Guillem12 Happy to chat and help you clear anything up anytime.

Looking at the emotional scale and acknowledging one is experiencing the emotion of boredom takes a few minutes. In this regard, years of practice and one awakening are procrastination (self referential thought, rather than looking at the scale). By helping someone inspect their direct experience and realize distinctions between physical pain and mental suffering. Helping someone explore their direct experience, such that they realize there isn’t a separate self which could need consciousness, and helping them to understand the guidance of the emotion of powerlessness. Up to OP. Not sure what is more raw and natural than understanding the emotions we experience and consciously creating.

Exactly. You said… “the thought” was just a label to the experience. Then you changed “the thought” to… “it”. “The thought” & “it” … are the same. “It” = the thought : “my brain is decaying”.

Girls are not attracted to discordant beliefs, same as guys. Discordant means ‘doesn’t feel good’. You’re sharing what doesn’t feel good to you, believing you’re right, and blaming other people & reality for the discord you’re experiencing. When you focus on what feels good to you, and share it, it attracts. It feels good to other people too.

If there’s an it, most definitely, it is always a thought. This is the good news. In direct experience, ‘my brain decaying’ is a thought, and is not the sensation. The sensation, is the discord, of the thought. It is not possible to spot the misinterpretation, and suffer or experience fear. Keep looking as you are imo. If you were fearing alien abduction you’d be saying “But in my case…” about alien abduction. Everyone’s beliefs seem reasonable to them. It’s how they feel that matters.

@something_else Very nicely said.

Neither matter.

@Mesopotamian If you asked your parents about engagement with a girl who is likable enough that they would approve, but they don’t approve, what reasons would they give?

If you have a long commute, a vehicle which is great on gas mileage would be more valuable to you. If you live in the mountains, a vehicle with a 4x4 feature would be more valuable to you. Experientially these are just objects, so no discord is found in the self referential comparative thoughts, nor in the objectifying lens of valuation.

Successful entrepreneurs aren’t focused on lack, such as ‘my mind needs to be expanded to think like an entrepreneur’. Instead, focus on what you want to create as an entrepreneur.

@Clems Meditate early in the morning vs later in the day. Sit up straight. Enjoy it. If you still fall asleep, have a look at if you’re getting enough sleep at night, and also at the diet.

@Javfly33 If you’re meditating for growth, that might be a natural phenomena in regard to letting that expectation go. It’s likely the nervous defense / laugh reaction playing out. No worries. Just relax, put attention back to feeling breathing from the stomach. If you can see it’s what you want, to release it, and if you don’t rush or hold expectation, it’s very enjoyable.

@WokeBloke Nah, then I’d be suffering.

@diamondpenguin Clever.

@WokeBloke The absence of a belief isn’t a belief.

Beliefs are veiling.

No broken self either.

It’s not a reference to someone. It’s a reference, only a pointing, to a direct experience. The pointing is like wind, in that it comes from no one, goes to no one, belongs to no one, and is not of anyone. lol yeah. Yes. If it can be affirmed that is not it. If there is no question, no doubt, then there quite simply & plainly, isn’t. Over here tripping on nothing doing electrical work. ?

Yes. That is why it’s so easy not to take thoughts seriously. That’s just a thought. It is better to get shot than live life in fear. It can’t be hard not to, because you aren’t experiencing that. There is no “in that moment”. There is no feeling “in that moment”. Feeling is always & ever only - right here right now. The ‘garbage in garbage out’ is applicable, but only realized & experienced with time away from the garbage. Focusing from such a place (discordant abstract thoughts) so to speak doesn’t create change. And yes, as you said, the guidance of creator creating creation is indeed felt accordingly.

@Mesopotamian Welcome to the mess. I’d have that cry and write that book if I were in your shoes.

I wanna say oneness, Nonduality, true beauty, love, readily seen in all things etc. But it’s ineffable and extraordinarily unique as well. It’s all that and more, and that more is only for you, and is a complete mystery until it unfolds in actuality. So when you ask the only honest answer I can give to you, with respect to you, is I don’t know, you have to find out. If you share it, then I’d at least have some idea of what your experience is like. The thought ‘seeing’ is as much actually seeing as the thought ‘third eye’ is as much the actuality of ‘what’s seen’. Also, on the flip side, ‘stuff in sight’ has more implication left on the bone. A contemplation of the opposite, ‘no ‘stuff’ in sight’ might be fun. Or funny. Potential there for both actually. ? ? Beautiful. I’d say third eye points to what you’re experiencing. Any affirmation though would of course be found directly, in the resonating. Sure sounds like it is to me. Degrees is a thought, implying differences & separations. Useful in creation, but doesn’t apply to third eye. Third eye is other worldly. What isn’t.

I hear ya, but if you head right instead of left, I’m an Easterner. If I do the same, you’re in the Middle West.

@Mesopotamian Hey! No nationalizing! It’s not a western culture or western concept at all. We have lots of ethical moral long term thinkers so to speak over here as well!

@soos_mite_ah I think you’re intuition is incredible and could not be more spot on, and all you’re missing is that the better feeling sought will never be found in thought / thinking, only in feeling. Try to look at it at a kindergarten level - of course feeling is found in feeling. If you desired water, you’d go to the sink. If you desire equanimity, better feeling, go to feeling directly. Put another way, the peace and love is what’s sought and it isn’t found in the content of the mind if you will, but in relaxation and cessation of thought activity, it is ‘found’ in what ‘the mind’ is made of. You might say it allows the u to naturally unfetter in the found, and results in a feeling you’ll be quite fond of. I’d shift the focus to understanding the emotions you’re experiencing. It’s inherently grounding, intrinsically emptying, and just feels awesome. Then, there is no more ‘going to thoughts’ to ‘cope’ because there is nothing discordant to lead to seeking coping.

@trenton The passion felt for an activity is awesome. The ‘becoming’, as in ‘becoming a professional chess player’ is the discord. Who / what you already are, is far greater than anything you could experientially “become”. It’s a deep delight to be so dialed into an activity or pursuit, realizing the talent more and more. When the passion & activity encroach upon identify, one is getting to ‘sucked in’ to the thoughts, or thought story of identity, or, of oneself. To balance this out, is to balance out the having identifying along the way. For the balance, to unfetter, get away for even a couple days, from everything which was or could be identified with or by. Two days of no chess, no books, letting all related thoughts come & go, and without your typical surroundings. This suggestion, when directly experienced, is found not to be adverse or against the interest of chess at all, but profoundly contributing to it. This ‘letting it all go’ is also available, as an example, during every entire shift at Kroger. That is more readily seen as available in the getting away from everything for a couple days. You could even witness from a higher & higher birds eye view, the entire function of Kroger, and see that it is essentially a financial & psychological chess game. Then the city, and so on, more and more bird’s eye.