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It’s a reference to the guy who sits on the street with three cups and a peanut, and you bet five bucks which cup the peanut’s under, after he shuffles them around. Thought is similar. When you switch from the thought ‘change’ to ‘processes’ without noticing, you’re experiencing the ‘shuffling of the cups’, and never finding the peanut. Yes, you totally do. Change can not be pointed to, because it’s a thought. You believe it can be pointed to (see pics) because you believe the thought ‘change’ is perception, or as a concession ‘what’s seen’, or ‘what’s in perception’, or, ‘what’s perceived’, however you’d like to put that. There is no actual separation between ‘what’s seen’, ‘seeing’, ‘knowing of the seeing’, and awareness of the knowing. Don’t take my word for it of course, check direct experience. That’s a belief. Actually check direct experience. Have a back up pair of drawers handy first. Only when thoughts are believed… … and one is “certain” (right).

Three cups no answer. Not sure you’re getting the three cups reference. You can plug any word or thought in, like world, old age, people, change, etc, and it’s still believing the thought is perception. Look around for yourself. Check direct experience. Seeing thoughts anywhere? Believing you’re thinking perception?

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Hmm. What’s the thought meditation about, what’s it mean? That’s the three cups and no peanut experience of the unpracticed. It’s just using a synonym for change (processes) which is also a thought. There is no actuality of change or processes, only thought attachment. And not even that, really.

@PurpleTree What does toxic mean to you?

@WokeBloke Unlike meditation, change is a thought.

@SQAAD Good for you. ?? And whatever you hell you want, God.

My good man, the words are sharings, pointings. The intention of, isn’t to convince you that you are the words, but for you to get on your path and see for yourself. Consciousness, nothing, and awareness could be said to be uniquely communicative words, as they point to that which has no opposite. Yet, thinking makes it so. Another pointing word, if ever a pointing was heard, meditation.

Welcome, sorry to hear, and… nice ‘work’ there. Understanding emotion. Recognizing the true source of the true nature.

@WokeBloke That proof would also be, experience. What can’t be experience(d)?

@blackchair Much love, enjoy the holidays and family. Wishing you peace, deep relaxation and heeling eyes. ??

@captainamerica Finally. That guy gets it. ??

@Javfly33 Irunic maybe.

Maybe they’re just enjoying sharing. You’re the truth. Remember?

I understand what you’re saying, and that the interpretation doesn’t feel good because it isn’t true, it’s aversion. Believing it’s relevant if anyone else understands is focusing on thoughts about someone else, and believing that will result in feeling better, and is aversion from understanding what you’re feeling. “I honestly don't know what it was exactly…. …but I refused to eat because I just told myself I could not.” Believing the thoughts which ‘say’ there are two of you, is aversion, a way of not feeling. (You can’t tell yourself anything, you are yourself). Believing you are experiencing reactions to stress is a way of interpreting feeling, and is not feeling, and thus is suppression, a way to not feel. Understand what you’re experiencing, rather than averting away from it by conceptualizing, blaming & justifying it to enable continuing to do so. It’s compassionate to understand where others are coming from. Feels good. More connective than isolating, more forgiving than resenting, more understanding & loving than blaming and spiteful, more liberating than captivating. What would you do today if you were the parent & it was your kid? And why is your kid refusing to eat? Feel better. Surely there is something you’re interested in in the present. Surely you have some desires & dreams for the future. I don't know how to reverse it either because I don't know what I did/what happened. I might have created some weird change in my neurology or something. That interpretation doesn’t feel good to you, and is aversion from what you’re feeling. Aversion really stinks. But only until you actually smell it.

@Javfly33 It really is mind blowing. One’s emotional guidance to everything they want, another’s horrible feeling in the body. ?

@EmptyVase ? Already, as in I already was focusing on a discordant thought, interpretation, etc, and already feel the discord.

@Max1993 Awesome. ??

Good for you man!

@EmptyVase Excellent, excellent ‘work’ man. What comes to mind is the above & below of contentment. To reach contentment is to let go of what is already discordant. That already is the key. If there is not already the emotional experience of lower than contentment, then nothing is suppressed in the shifting to a thought with an accompanying higher emotion. I suspect what your experiencing is more intuition, and thus emotional autocorrecting of the body mind, and the great joy of emotional sensitivity. It’s sounds like you are seeing a mile away, a discordant thought, whereas before you might have focused on it and entertained it longer. Now, you just know. Not the knowledge know, but the being knowingness. For that knowingness, thought isn’t even needed. Still useful of course in communicating, expressing preference etc… but not as needed for alignment.

@Tyler Durden Spiritual meaning & nondual experience are oxymorons. “Deeper meaning” in this case therefore actually means more conceptualized. @Iesu Criticism: The practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating literary or other artistic works. Some believe criticism is untenable, yet spend the majority of their time living in it. Some even take it beyond the literary & artistic works of others, and believe criticism is untenable while criticizing others, and convince others that criticism does not apply to their work. Tenable & untenable are concepts, and all concepts are subject to your analyzing, classifying, interpreting and evaluation. The alternative is blind faith.

Spiritual meaning & nondual experience are oxymorons. “Deeper meaning” in this case therefore actually means more conceptualized.

@Gesundheit2 Uh, I don’t know, who? If it sounds like that’s what I’m saying or trying to say, it’s not.

@Gesundheit2 Hmm. I’ve actually waxed legs and applied make up. Not to me, but honestly it was quite fun. I think I get what you’re saying about fun being a cover but I don’t agree. Fun seems like the point to me, and I don’t really know or get what sexual potential, winning or a social hierarchy is. Maybe you’re being facetious, dunno. I’m pretty convinced these middle westerners all just wanna have fun. Kind of a ‘it’s all good and it’s all in fun, now get in the pit and try ta love someone’ vibe over here. We got material girls too, but overall more about turning the page, and the real you standing up.

@actually Anytime. Not sure what you mean. This is the actualized chat, here on the forum, no? And there is private messaging as well, feel free to reach out anytime.