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@Javfly33 Really though. Those added characters / entities, and the belief in states, is how the separate self (asleep) is perpetuated. (All thoughts). It’s the ‘one who knows’ about all of those ‘others’, the one said to be ‘in’ the pain. This is seen in trips, and this is how it resumes post trips. The resuming can be seen, and then the trip is no longer a necessary method to see this.

@BenG nice. @4201 Have you ‘tried’ / experienced simply not believing the thought / concept (‘advanced’), not adding it as a concept, and basically instead seeing first hand if there is advanced this or that vs if it (‘advanced’) is / was a thought you kept believing each time it arose? What happens when you inspect what you’re asking? Do you find ‘advanced’ anywhere? There’s also of course self inquiry, so weed out the ‘one’ who experiences the ‘advanced’. Might also be helpful to pop advanced in where what is. Essentially, see if it’s circular self referential ‘logic’, ‘for yourself’.

Awesome. Got a version without the ego & consciousness & awareness added? Might be clarifying.

Nobody knows, but without upholding that belief that there is that need for this to happen, this is that which you speak of, which is why there is that ‘notion within you’ that it is. Look to inspection & actuality (this), vs the conceptualizing of another world / dimension.

@Schahin The deities thingy is the ‘off’ or slight discord, not the psychedelics making a vegetarian feel bad for eating meat. Which as you shared, you aren’t actually doing.

@Raptorsin7 Just be aware of being aware. Jk. Great to hear of the releasing my friend, great to hear.

By all means have a dr check it out. You could also consider your ear doesn’t make sound per se, and it is the vibrational background hum of the universe which is you being ‘your ear’. The middle C all musical scales are constructed of. The ‘channel’ of all ‘channelers’ opening up. It’s common before awakening to frame it as a problem because though it was always there it was never noticed. There is usually ‘something to be heard’. I definitly agree with observing any emotions arising, as that’s how you ‘hear it’ in the receiving sense & it’s no longer experienced as a problem. Try to consider it’s the most positive thing ‘you’ve ever heard’. Also, scrutinize the attempt to apply ‘logic’ to notice it doesn’t add up, of course no one can hear silence. So maybe let faith in logic go, in that sense, a bit. Not all beliefs will resonate, in the literal ‘physical stuff’ (‘your ears’) sense, through the entire path. Could also consider the analogy of the universe as a perfect vibrational orchestra, and ‘you’ as a violin, a mind, attuning to it / with it / as it for the first time. Also, as far as that ‘yet to be heard’ factor, you mentioned the ‘sound is heard’ in only one ear. Look up info on the left & right sides of the body as representative of masculine & feminine, and consider that info in regard to which ear / side is ‘plugged’, or, not ‘hearing’ the sound / silence / frequency. Look to connect the dots in that regard with whatever arises emotionally, and think in terms of conditioning being brought into the light, or coming ‘up & out’.

Inspect what you’re saying for conflicting statements. This highlights beliefs for you to inspect. Inspection and meditation coalesce.

You are saying boredom is negative. As in, doesn’t feel good. It does feel good. It feels better than pessimism. You don’t have any of that, and there’s nothing you need to do at all. That’s the beauty of boredom.

I am that other in this here scenario. I think in that experience there is personally support, and in this experience there is what I’m sharing forum, website and YouTube wise. Does that mean I think anybody should not share, and suppress, no. Do I think it would be better if everyone agreed, saw everything the same, heck no. Also, personally is an idea, it’s already dualistic. It’s all just thoughts. Seems more like sharing ideas. Which again, is all just thoughts. Other than not existing, no. It’s just thoughts.

@Yoremo Refusal of boredom is not boredom… but is actually pessimism… about boredom. The belief is that if you don’t distract yourself with a screen, you’ll experience boredom, which will feel worse than the pessimism you are already experiencing. The truth is boredom feels better than pessimism. Might feel like ‘there’s definitely stuff I’d like to do, but I don’t feel like doing any of it’… but at least there aren’t the pessimistic discordant thoughts.

@BenG Here & now… or, ‘what is’ - IS what is. IS actual. There & then… is not actual, and is conceptual. Belief. Idea of. (Think of The Spaghetti Monster; an idea, without actuality) If it is believed there is a ‘there’… actually physically attempt to go there. What’s found is this is not possible. As you ‘go’, it is always & only ever, here. If it is believed there is a ‘then’… again, actually get up and try to go to ‘then’. What’s realized is the impossibility of this, as you only & ever experience, now. The key is contentment. The feeling of contentment, is the feeling of having expressed each lower emotion. By expressing each emotion lower than contentment, emotions were acknowledged, and you were unfettered of them, and no expectations are held any longer upon this here & now. Then, naturally, effortlessly - hopeful thoughts begin to arise.

@Emotionalmosquito I understand your perspective there, and you can entertain mine or not, but I’m tellin ya it isn’t something we have to think about or plan. You either. Me & her (your friend) kinda saying the same thing my man, and kinda wanting the same thing for you. Receiving mode is like, a real thing. Loa is, a real thing. You’re attracting, and then thinkin - instead of allowing & receiving, what you’re attracting.

We don’t have to think about it at all either, we just do it. With her… No more Felix Pewpew nonsense. No more kidding. No more self defamation. No more justifying these to yourself either. Daily meditation stands to be the game changer. Deeper relaxation than you’re a acustomed to. Less thinking. Less reactivity. Less justifying. The effortless way. From what you’ve shared, you don’t need to think about how to escalate, or what to do if and when. Just listen to what she’s saying. No additional thinking needed.

Let expecting go. You’re creating this moment. It’s following focus. What’s God expecting? What’s God creating? If you’re not aware how & that you are being focus, you don’t need to be. You only need to notice that focus is, and question where you want to take that baton. If that where was already known, you could not create, fun would not exist, and none of this would make sense.

@4201 I don’t care what anybody thinks. Their thoughts are kinda their business. In this way I find you, me, and Leo incredibly Love. When you ask for honesty from me, you seek truth. When you don’t, you must resolve your discord. Me too. Leo too. What I think creates, but for you is a handful of beans. Here, you’ve missed the element of humor in this thread from me & Leo. But, I don’t know what’s goin on ‘over theres’. Here this is making it funnier.

@Yoremo The refusal to experience boredum is the insistence on staying in pessimism.

@omar30 Good share, thank you. Haven’t dove into the Quran, so really appreciating this. Feels like you have the insightful eye for it. More anytime please.

@TruthSoldier lmao I think it’s the picture really.

I second that. Truly incredible. Thank you for sharing, pretty amazing journey!

THE TEN OX-HERDING STAGES OF ZEN From of The Maha Gopalaka Sutta, an interpretation. SEARCHING One begins to question the nature of oneself, and the origin & true nature of the universe & experience of reality. This is often brought about by loss, fear, suffering, feeling incomplete, unworthy, a sense something is lacking, something is wrong with oneself, or simply by intuition & curiosity. The search might also arise from ‘having it all’, yet intuitively sensing there is much more to life and experience which remains veiled. SEEING THE FOOTPRINTS Seeking to rectify this sense, one begins the search and discovers the plethora of materials, teachers & teachings available; as if appearing ‘right out of the woodwork’. As if manifesting, inexplicably. One soon adopts a practice such as meditation, intuitively drawn to peace, stillness, silence & repose; though there may be no acuity in understanding or comprehension yet as to why. As the practice begins to take hold and resonate, one begins to see the root of suffering is not the world, but the conflicts and in-equanimity arising ‘in’, or, of one’s own mind. The footprints of the ox are discovered in the accompanying discordant feeling of reactionary thoughts, behaviors & actions. In renewed & expanded open mindedness, the cessation of suffering is now considered to be possible, yet remains unseen & un-grasped. One begins to question the collective & status quo, finding short term satisfaction in logic & reason and thinking for oneself, rather than continuing to ‘fall in with the herd’, or seek refuge in avoidance & aversion, by adhere to norms, dogmas, or conjecture (unverified collective beliefs handed down via tradition, and implied pressures of inclusion, vs isolation). GLIMPSING Dots connect between the struggles, hostilities and plight of the inner world, and outer world experienced, and the asymmetries of one’s own mind. As direct experience is inspected, validation of what the seeker has heard from teachers & learned from teachings begins to be seen first hand. As discord is discovered & aligned in the ‘inner world’, new perspectives of ways of being, living, and relating to the ‘outer world’ and others are experienced. The ever-increasing feeling of alignment is the ‘substance’ in & of itself, of confirmation, the visceral intrinsic validity of the practice, that which the teachers can never speak. This is a joyful and promising stage on the path, as the glimpse of this new way resonates intuitively with the calling by which the seeking, practice and search originated. Empowerment & inspiration begin to arise, as the reactionary and discordant thoughts, behaviors & actions begin to be illuminated, and more clearly seen, understood, and thus, no longer fed attention. Understanding arises as the dots connect between suffering, conditioning, limiting beliefs, reactionary living, collective paradigms, and living the life which is the dream within to be manifest & experienced. CATCHING Now aware of the significance of direct experience, and the physiological benefits & feeling of alignment from the practice and inspection, a new glimpse is seen - that of the truly radical magnitude and depth, of conditioning. One is becoming more acutely aware of patterns of clinging & averting, and of reaction & suppression, which have thus far been unknowingly at the helm of one’s life. Countless questions arise as the mind is both brightened by, and confounded by, these discoveries. Here diligence to the practice, mindfulness, and ‘remaining’ present, are realized to be of great significance. This can be a most difficult stage, as conditioning which has been unknowingly innocently adopted & suppressed is more fully coming to light, arising analogous to a meal which didn’t taste good in the first place & never settled, coming up & out. Expression is most key, as reactionary causal living & existence has begun to be seen as not really ‘awake’, or as any real quality of living at all. Motive, that is, the projection of the very feeling sought, onto things & outcomes, begins to be seen as inspirationally hollow and unsatisfying. Old thought patterns & beliefs, still arising, are met with mindfulness as the shadow is brought into the light of awareness. Animalistic reactive aggressions are now felt with more intensity & sensitivity, as they inevitably come ‘up & out’. The trap of aversion to the practice itself, arises. ‘Energy’, like ‘relaxation within’, are seen to be mere concepts of an old paradigm, as the feeling-realization of the actuality to which these words point has begun. Patience, deeper relaxation within, stillness of mind & equanimity of emotion become respectfully realized as the curative way of understanding. TAMING As the practiced mind calms & clears, the body undergoes an emptying of suppressions. Via the practice, stillness & the way of non is grasped, such as non-engagement, non-judgement and non-reaction. The ‘cup’ continues to empty such that empathy, understanding, and true compassion & wisdom have a space to arise within. This stage calls for continued diligence & patience, as expression empties, and creates the space for the expanded actuality of self-acceptance & self-love. More deeply, that one can not ‘do it all one’s self’ is realized. That is, sayings like ‘give it to God’, and the ‘power of letting go’ are more appreciated and mindfully & swiftly employed. Response, rather than reaction, intrinsically arises and is enjoyed as it is more & more naturally pronounced. The practiced, opened & expanded mind, in conjunction with the ‘emptied body’, are now more naturally culminating a new and more single pointed awareness & focus, aligned with & attentive to the mind’s ‘higher’ guidance, ‘it’s very ‘substance’, that of feeling. In this natural & intrinsic alignment arises renewal, depth, acuity and heightened sensitivity of sensation. Real change occurs in regard to non-dwelling, non-complaining, and non-judgement as the taste & actuality of true freedom is now firmly understood & more often glimpsed. Swiftness of ability to shift focus in accordance with feeling-guidance becomes the Way & the paramount order of every day. Often, this is a time of introspection, reflection, deeper acceptance, forgiveness, and care for any lingering discord in matters of relationships with others, as the actuality of communion with source is realized. That of the guidance, of emotion. The reality of universal harmony and correlations with presence & focus become clearer. Much pain is transmutated as much beauty, and glimpses arise more often, more profound, yielding yet deeper insights in the vein of unification. RIDING HOME Here the practice, inspection of direct experience, learning as listening to source, and changes in accordance with wanted therein, are more readily employed & enjoyed, and all begins to coalesce. A relaxed body-mind becomes the norm. Ease of being is actual & real. Confirmation of the words of mystics is known first hand in direct experience. The fruits of dedication to the practice now fully ripen and become the norm. Experience is no longer veiled by the facade of black & white; one is not moved by causation nor internal polarities, and the oneness of all-grey deeply intuitively resounds & resonates. The actuality and nonduality of trust in the universe is realized with clarity, as all which does not serve is swiftly released & and all which does is received in non-attachment, natural joy and appreciation & complete equanimity. The mind, ever-expanding, tastes the true creativity of its source, and has unmistakably ‘returned’ Home. Aligned & abiding in, of, and as nonlocalized-feeling, the mind is naturally focused and free of resistance. Childlike fun & lightheartedness has ‘returned’ to stay. Glimpses become incredibly deep, and are no longer intermittent, but readily accessible and never so far as to be out of reach of the peaceful mind. Awareness non-localizes here, ‘filling the room’, in miraculous expansion & delightful, unthinkable actuality. TRANSCENDING OTHER Home. The Great Relief, The Great Rest. Dissipation, abidance of being, true embodiment of compassion. Notions of harming, hurting, outsmarting, righteousness, manipulation, need to understand or be understood no longer arise; they came with losing the ox; they left with finding the ox; ineffable freedom is actualized. Emotion guides, far superior to thought. For all of the seeker’s diligence, inner battles, trials & tribulations; nothing is gained, nothing is realized, nothing is found, nothing was lost. TRANSCENDING SELF-AND-OTHER Nothing remains; self, no self, other, no other, world, no world, body, no body, mind, no mind, negation, non-negation, phenomena, non-phenomena; nothing remains. Wisdom, ignorance, seeking, finding, seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, breathing, knowledge, aware, conscious, infinite, finite, formless, form, universe, non-universe, Truth, The True Nature; all notions are dispelled by direct experience. Nothing is perfection; perfection is nothing. Seeing for the first time, hearing for the first time, feeling for the first time, breathing for the first time, speaking for the first time, understanding for the first time; never seeing, never hearing, never feeling, never breathing, never speaking, never understanding. Distinctions of conceptual vs direct experience, idea vs actuality, path vs not path; having gone full circle have collapsed, never having occurred. The bottom of the bucket has fallen away; compassion ever-pours up, out & through the emptied vessel, where conditioning once did. Presence is intrinsically spontaneous creativity. Life is a an impossible, miraculous wonder to behold. A Bodhisattva see’s the world for the first time; as the absence of Bodhisattva & world. SOURCE Absolute (and not). The tongue can not taste tongue; eye can not see eye, ear can not hear ear, finger can not point to finger. The knower is the known; the striver was the strife. Understanding is under standing; confusion is not. Mystery dispelled; mystery revealed. RETURNING Absolute Unconditional Wakefulness. Unfettered; complete engagement. Effortlessly, perpetually paying forward. Ineffable, Mystical, Magic. ? From Maps & Traps.

@Javfly33 Even ‘what’ is going too far. Since what is a thought, what can’t be helpful path wise. Only meditation, as non-thought. When the thought ‘ego’ pops up, take a minute or two to basically retrace it, as to where, when, from who, it was learned. That can be helpful, because the more it is realized it’s conjecture, the more it is realized what was learned (by you so to speak) can not therefore, be you. Like ‘bike’.

@Javfly33 It’s unconscious vs conscious creation. Think repetition, and momentum. There not such thing as an ego in this sphere, or you might say the sphere is the ego. But that is one amazingly miraculous ego if so. While it is often assumed Nahm knows something one doesn’t, etc, that is never the case. There just ins’t any repeating, of what does not resonate. Keep saying there’s an ego, and it keeps seeming like there is. Can also inspect, actually find this ego spoken of.

Great way to put it there.

@Bazooka Jesus Taking feedback into consideration, thank you sir.