Nahm

There is truly no perceiver, no perceived. Perception, subject, object are appearance. The ‘intellectual’ & the ‘interpretations’ are assumption & are illusory (via thought attachment / the separate self) and is what suffering is.

@Zeroguy Love you brother. ?? Spread the word today.

Yes & no. That ‘something’ is a thought. One can experience jealousy without hatred, and hatred without jealousy. Keep it as simple as possible with the scale.

Meditation is non-doing, allowance of the settling of the self referential thinking, which is the ‘separate self’, which is what suffering is. If interested of course, google The Buddha and pain vs suffering. Great documentary called The Buddha on Netflix. Very simple and straightforward. Expression is the way. Silencing you or your voice is suppression. Allow the thoughts & discord of others, to be, others.

@Endangered-EGO No self isn’t something one is led to, it’s already the case. The resistance to sitting & equanimity, is the suffering, which is the belief in a separate self. The neuroticism is being accredited to ‘the self’. That, the belief in the separate self is the neuroticism. There isn’t actually either. Just the resistance and suffering of the belief. Find the one who suffers literally. Go to the sensation of the suffering and see what it is literally. There either is or is not the experience of suffering, because there either is or is not a separate self.

Suffering is like the pipe.

Belief… vs direct experience. Past & identity, as compared to this.

@fopylo I think it’s good, not knocking it. I think that you’ve gone from essentially ‘wtf is wrong w me’ to understanding emotions at the depth you are is really great. I do also think not reinventing, or remodeling the scale is the most effective use of the scale. Put another way, it might be slipping into being contextualized, which could defeat the whole usage of it. Maybe a way to point to that, in this experience there isn’t a thought a second ahead or behind, because why would there need to be with live, real time guidance. The only thoughts ahead, are now, and of wanted, and the guidance is infallible perfection in manifesting it. I think that was a pointer to less depth, or really no depth, being the deeper ‘juice’. There’s usually an exploration of emotions, and then the actuality or realness of the recognition that it is the teacher, or, the guidance.

@machinegun Thats douchery.

@WokeBloke The best advice most often goes completely unacknowledged. The ego loves grandiose ruminations, and refutes fundamentals.

@machinegun Would you say that to her face?

Wiggle your fingers. You do. What could be more obvious? (Not ideas of you, not ‘the one who / which is responsible’, or that which is moved, as those are thought / ideas of a you.)

@WokeBloke You’re assuming form is other than ‘your’ thought, form. This is thought attachment. Specifically, thought activity of (that is) the separate self. No beliefs (repeating thought activity) no form, no separate self. Cessation. Meditation.

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The links above are only added so that you can see a bird’s eye view of your own trajectory, or more simply said, that you see what you yourself have been saying all along. Imo, which is all that you can receive from me or anyone else so to speak, there is no truth to solipsism. It is a belief like all other ism’s, the activity of thought, which can come to rest in meditatively listening to, or, abiding in, your own abundantly available guidance. This link is added so that you might as the reader, vicariously see and thus not experience the trap of believing there are teachers outside yourself. That you might see the trap of attempting to discern which teacher is ‘right’, and thus project emotional transference onto anyone therein. At the same time though, if that is what relieves, do feel free to fire away. I understand & I truly do not mind. You asked for my two cents, this is it. I am not a teacher. I do not have any teachings. I do not recommend facing beliefs head on, I recommend listening to the only teacher there is, the intuition and emotional guidance of the discord & alignment felt, of that or any belief / activity of thought. I can respect you have never listened to what I’ve offered, and likely are not about to now. The hope here is that you recognize I am not actually saying to listen to me, but to listen to me when I say, listen to your own discord. Therein lies the truth. Aversion. The emotional scale. https://youtube.com/channel/UCe60ditqv4s0H2eVxYJ9q1g ?

@machinegun But you did like their friend, no?

@WokeBloke Hope it’s not taken in any personal way, but I don’t want to contribute to existential rumination. For the answer to that and anything else existential; meditation.

@machinegun What was the so called douchery?

@WokeBloke More of the same there. Meditation.

@WokeBloke Circular logic.

@WokeBloke I is a thought.

@WokeBloke No. That’s just ‘the emperor’s new clothes’, a new / another belief.

Nice! Meditation.

@WokeBloke No one is needed. There is no realizer, thinker, or seer. Notice these, in direct experience, are only thoughts. Could also contemplate, when there is manipulation, there is the projection of the belief in inferiority. This is aversion.