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An example, might be helpful…not about you, just hypothetical… What do I want? A woman-friend, a relationship, some fun, some intimacy, etc. Universe: You got it, love ya. See’s potential woman-friend… feels the excitement of actually seeing what is desired & thus attracted, manifest ‘in the flesh’. One interpretation: Excitement, thank you source, you are the best! Another interpretation: Anxiousness. Anxiety. Universe: But, that’s what you wanted. Relevance / resolve: Willingness to put down discordant interpretations (being ‘right’ about ‘anxiety’, in exchange for new aligned interpretations (feeling good matters more)… Universe: Sweet. Let’s blow the doors off this place. What else ya want?

@Javfly33 Can we say there is an experience of the emotion of pessimism, as guidance…. rather than any actuality of a … ‘sense of losing time/opportunities’ ? The relevance… is there a direct experience of a you which had time or opportunity… and lost it? No. Was there the experience of these thoughts? Yes. The guidance is in regard to what is actual - the thoughts. Likewise… “anxiety is felt”. Can we say there is an experience of the emotion, pessimism, as guidance, in regard to the thoughts? The relevance…. What you believe is “anxiety” is the guidance of your own true infinite self, the one and only creator… literaly guiding ‘you’… to what ‘you’… actually want. And can we say there is no “apathy”, but the direct experience of the emotion pessimism, and a little expereince of the emotion of boredom? And also, a little experience of fear, in regard to, experiencing, boredom?

Not so, and this communication is the very evidence of this truth. A character in your mind can do whatever you’re imaging in your mind, so to speak. There are no characters in infinite mind, if you will. That it is / was an experience is the re-contextualization or ‘claiming’ of, as your experience, and is not semantical. An ‘it’ which separated everything from a ‘me’, is not nothing, but is a personal experience of an it and a me. No one thinks. Form and not form is a duality indicative of the post interpretation. The separate self ‘slips in’ behind the scene, behind interpretation, and is woven into the interpretation, which is then re-contextualized as ‘my experience’ (two). Nothing can get back beyond them, because eyes is a thought, the actuality of which is very literally nothing, as in no thing, nothingness. No one knows a you can’t get back because there is no one who ever left. There seems to be an I which experienced and an it and a this consciousness. No one is of the view of anything, view is a thought. There is no it. There is no you. Not two.

@Javfly33 More simply. Are you experiencing some frustration / irritability / impatience?

@soos_mite_ah I can’t really say what is healthy and unhealthy, only that there is the sensation of discord & alignment with well being. Putting this as simply as possible, as always feel free to ask anything you like, if interested… When you notice focus is on thoughts about yourself, and discord is felt… instead… look at the emotional scale and pick which emotion most seems like the emotion presently experienced. Then, lightly & simply, express each emotion up the scale. Feel the subtle feeling of relief as you move to each next emotion. If you try this for a week or so, I’d love to hear back on how it went! ? It might be realized there is no coper, and nothing in need of coping with, and that essentially your creating of this life so to speak, is not without, quite literally, the guidance of infinite intelligence at every, single, step.

@Seraphim It’s not that there is a me which doesn’t know, it’s that all that is, or as a pointing - nonduality, is - very literally, not knowing, or, no thing to know. If you like, eternal notknowingness. Knower, knowing, knowledge, etc, is the illusion of the separate self, the knower of the known, aka knowledge. Nonduality is not philosophical, a philosopher, or a philosophy. Comparatively speaking, “Oneness” could rightfully be said to be philosophical, albeit with micro brass tacks, as the term implies what is, whereas nonduality ‘says’ what is not, or, ‘not two’. Nonduality could be misunderstood as a philosophical negation, but in careful scrutiny is can be seen negation would be two. The comment was to the original post. No one asked for directions to a store, no one said a sense of self is delusional. That would actually be nonsensical. Sense, as in sensation, is the ‘dessert of the real’, to be uncovered via the unfettering of beliefs, and not the addition of beliefs, by no one. What was awake previously thought to be? (Rhetorical humor, not actually asking)

@EntheogenTruthSeeker Sad to see ya go in such a way. Much love & God speed in your endeavors. Hope that guy (or woman wasn’t sure) works out fantastically.

@Zeroguy Appreciate the kindness, not lovin the comparative thinking, and as you are well aware there is no teacher. ??

Death is the assumption of the separate self, the ‘one which is not this love’ and could be ‘reunited’ with this love. There is no ‘perspective of the separate self’. In accordance with direct experience, there is no there, nor is there a separate self which could ‘leave here’ and ‘get there’. There is no center, no lifetimes, no liver of lives, no afterlife. There is no ego or ego which dies. But thinking makes all of this seem so. In silence none of this is so, isn’t it so? There is no ‘you’ from past lives which jumps into a new life, for which enlightenment could take many lives. Enlightenment is precisely the realization of thought attachment / none of this is actual. There is not knowledge ‘lost between lives’, nor ‘knowledge carried from one life to the next’, because all is quite literally ‘made of’ Not Knowingness. The knowing of all of this is the illusion of the knower. An appearance, of Not Knowing, or, if you like, infinite being, which actually is infinite, and thus there is nothing else, nothing to know or which could be known.

@VeganAwake Amen. ?? All descriptions are reality. ?? But thought attachment makes it seem so. The knower is the known, the describer the described. “It doesn’t matter what I say, as long as I say it with inflection, and make you feel I’ll convey some deeper truth from vast reflection. But I’ve said nothing so far, and I can keep it up for as long as it takes. If I’m doing my job, it’s your resolve that breaks, because the hook brings you back. I ain’t tellin you no lie, on that you can rely”. JP

Not so. Comes down to direct experience. NPC is an assumption, another way of saying ‘a you’, the implication is ‘you’ are ‘the playable character’. This is not / was not direct experience, this is conjecture. For sure. ?? ? This conflict reveals the ‘experience’ has not been, so to speak, directly experienced. What is realized is there is no everyone, and this is not realized by anyone. This is precisely not “an experience” “identical for everyone”. There is no you. There is no foreground. There is no nothingness. There is no everything. There is no appearance. There is no you. This does not ‘come down to interpretation’. There is no interpretation. “This” is uninterpretable, that is the realization, had by very literally no one.

Change = experience. Shift from the focus on thoughts about a self, to receiving the guidance of the emotion. You will, and it will rock reality.

@mandyjw Speaking of great lions.

@The White Rabbit @Zeroguy There’s no change, sans less thinking / thought activity / confusion / discord / suffering. No self is not an achievement, nor a concern for a a self. In shifting focus away from believing the thought ‘I got worried’, or ‘I worry’… to the willingness to acknowledge & understand worrying is an emotion, which is felt now or not at all and never in a future… real-time live guidance which is telling you something so to speak, about the thoughts presently focused on in relation to what you want… is received… and inevitably… a great lion roars.

Why attempt to ‘integrate’ discord, suffering. Let discordant thoughts go. Willingly. Because of, and only because of, how it feels to focus on those thoughts. Focus on anything else. There is no separate self feeling. This is conceptualizing feeling. Thoughts about a separate self which feels. This is not feeling. This is focusing on self referential thoughts, and averting from understanding the emotions. Pathology is one thought. Separate self in one thought. Meditation is the way. Careful not to self referentially think you’re way out of what actually works. (Meditation and understanding the emotions experienced as guidance about the thoughts focused on). Anyone focused on the thoughts you’re focusing on should feel the exact same discord you are experiencing. Anyone shifting to understanding, and thus receiving the emotional guidance will feel alignment. Every one believes theirs is the unique, exceptional story. Meditation lets the story go. It can’t be beat, focus repeats. Can only be let go. Do not be afraid to feel, understand fear is an emotion, which again is guidance. You are infinitely loved. You are infinite love. And that is what is felt (is feeling).

According to who? Self Inquiry. Assumptions can be inspected and dispelled. Solipsism is delusion. Let it go, focus on anything else which is not discordant. By not believing assumptions, one arrives at the truth. No one else. Just One. That perception can be thought, as in thunk or thought of, is ignorance, and opportunity to inspect actuality.

That is (as thoughts) the separate self. It’s the ego, the ‘accomplisher’, fruitless attempts to ‘push a cork to float’. Fruitless, as in, the cork floats without the attempts. The attempts are the ‘getting in your own way’. When beginning or returning to meditation it is common to feel a heightened sensitivity, to the ‘old thoughts’ of ‘the separate self’. The ‘one who has concerns’. You are yourself. That there is a separate self which you could or are pushing, are thoughts, and only thoughts. There is no second or separate self. There is no separate self which is lazy or avoidant. These are self referential thoughts, aversion. Spiral dynamics is a concept, being utilized by no one, to guilt trip no one. Were these self referential thoughts not focused upon, there would be no emotional guidance of guilt. The guidance can be ‘listened’ to. The scale can be understood and implemented. By no one. Value is the mind’s gateway into ego, the separate self. No separation, no value(s). The focus upon such discordant thoughts is ego. Ego is not a second or actual entity. There is no need to support it. What does not exist can not in truth be supported or denied. These are thoughts, which repeat, from being fed attention, and ignoring the emotional guidance. This is conjecture. It isn’t known from direct experience, but is a way of thinking which is heard and believed, even thought it feels discordant. There neuroticism is the thoughts / thought activity, which is ‘the separate self’ (just thoughts focused). Meditation (letting these thoughts come & go) is the way. Meditation. Simple. If overwhelming, walking meditation, expressive writing. Shift focus from self referential thoughts, to understanding and acknowledging the emotion experienced. Such as overwhelment. The you in thought loops is not you, and is a thought. Awareness is aware, of these thoughts about a separate self, which do not resonate. Don’t look to tolerate discord (discomfort/anxiety). Let those conceptual labels go, and understand and receive the emotional guidance for your creating.

@ertopolice Yes. And then thoughts which arise, arise about the direct experience. Feeling is never in a future. If you are not feeling as you’d like to, it’s not future related. There is subtle relief in the acknowledgement of the guidance of guilt, insecurity, and or unworthiness. Expressing, the admittance, is a ‘getting it off of the shoulders’, a putting down of the weight. Albeit subtle, there is more clarity.

@RMQualtrough Assumptions can be inspected, doubt isn’t beneficial, and there is only something in front of the eyes for the separate self. As in, these are thoughts. ?

There are two which could be unified. That’s also an assumption. There is no such direct experience of what everyone knows, nor even of what a you knows. Non-existence is a thought with no actuality, like unicorn. Nothing is not experience or an experience. Bring to mind the thought of a Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Latte, and notice there is no taste, only the thought. Then imagine upon tasting it, it is revealed there is no Starbucks, no latte, no taste. Only ‘the separate self’ (thoughts) claim nothing can be experienced. The mind can not go where it has not been. The separate self ‘hides’ in the claiming of experience, my, mine, etc.

Enlightenment is cessation.

Both. If you want. Also, don’t have to buy investments like companies, houses, etc with cash. With ample income verification the bank will instantly manifest the money for you. The “bank”, so to speak. Flipping the house(s) you live in is another easier way to make money to invest into more. Be sure to check into any state, city, fed programs which reduce and reimburse with respect to purchasing houses. Especially if you’re a first time home buyer.

Discern thoughts about direct experience, from direct experience. Notice it isn’t technically any of what you say you fear, which is the emotion of fear, because you haven’t experienced it. It is how those thoughts feel, which is the guidance of emotion. Be willing to experience it (step 1), then if you like think about it (step 2).

?? Miss your clips! Always nail it.

‘Unification’ is spiritual conjecture & creates confusion, as it is an assumption.