Nahm

There’s something to be said for ‘both’. Modalities / transmissions might actually be the best case scenario for integrating and embodying trips. Likewise, these practices are well known to be effective in shedding veils & barriers, which can in turn take trips to another level. Of course there are countless ways to connect the bubbles. Something I’d keep in mind on the LOC perspective...it is wholly based on one step beyond direct awareness of thought, sensation, and perception. One step might not seem significant, but that ‘one step’ seems to lead to hell realms, demons, etc, etc, as well. Imo, the risks of buying into a thought based model foundation are far greater than the direct experience of psych’s.

@CMacD In general, if you don’t mind...what is that experience like? What is it like to ‘learn something you wish you hadn’t’?

That’s so true. For sure. That’s an interesting topic imo. I went full pendulum both ways on shaktipat / assertion. Also for anyone interested, taking Reiki classes stands to open up some deeply mystical experiences in the shaktipat vein. And yep, very much, when one is ready for the magic of that silence.

I hear ya. It is definitely a thing so to speak, ime.

@CMacD You’re stating you want to have it all.

@Bazooka Jesus Wether you are under any illusion you are two entities making judgement possible or one, judgement still feels undesirable relative to absolute. Be more critical of being critical. See that it doesn’t make sense. A thousand thoughts have yet to approach the feeling of a single smile, or laugh. The true self is too good to be true. Yet it is.

@Mu_ Another great one??

If one was trying to solve.. “is up or down the correct answer?”...the thinking could go on forever. Up is relative to down, down is relative to up. The realization that thinking will not get one anywhere is “The Wholistic Insight”. That the whole of thinking, all the thinking you could ever do, will not resolve anything, it will not change anything - so instead, it can be let go, surrendered. You can trade the thinking scene...“Is this perspective right, is this angle right, is this teacher right, does this make sense of it, why was my past that way, why is anything the way it is”, etc, etc, etc....you can trade the thinking scene, for feeling. You can keep your focus on breathing from your stomach. Every you notice focus is “sucked into thinking again”, simply, kindly, gently, return the focus to feeling the breathing from the stomach. Your body is infinite intelligence, and is literally designed to release all of the thinking, and all tension. There is nothing you need to do for this to occur, it is like the current of a river. The thinking thinking thinking is like paddling upstream, harder and harder and harder...until you finally start letting go, and the stream literally carries you to everything you are wanting. Is it like the laws of the Universe where the infinitely small and the infinitely big are ruled according to different standards ? Indeed it is not. The Unified Field is available, accessible, to all beings, at all times, in all locations. Reality does not have rules. Reality is a loving Being, and reality has a nature. The nature of reality is unconditional love. Loving you more than you could ever imagine, and allowing you to do, think, and feel, freely. God does not lord over you nor impose upon you. God just loves you, and loves everyone unconditionally. If you want, you can take time everyday to relax and let go, and let more of this unconditional love into your life & your living. Have tissue. A critical component with this... the understanding arises, after the thinking is let go. This is initially highly counter-logical, because culturally, generally, we believe we resolve feelings, with thinking. “There’s something I need to know, or understand, or get, or get to, or be - to feel better”. That’s just the tablet trying to compute the resolve. When it instead just relaxes and lets go of computing, the wifi inherently defrags the hard drive, clears the cache, empties the cookies, updates the operating system, etc...and the tablet is then like “oh wow, it all seems so clear now...it makes sense.” ” I don’t know how to integrate what I have experienced on the one hand, into all-encompassing Non-Duality on the other hand.” Let it go. How? Get yourself a large dry erase board, and start writing what you want in this life on it. See it everyday. Imagine having it now, and feel how that feels. Let the past go. Focus on what you want. When a resistant / not good feeling thought arises, choose a better feeling, aligned with what you ware wanting, thought. “What happens if you are a product of abnormal circumstances ? How do you make sense of life?” By living it. By no longer identifying as “a product of abnormal circumstances”. “How do I solve this and move on?” By letting go of the need to solve it in thinking. By letting the thinking go. By letting love, the absolute “core of you” wash the emotions of misunderstanding right out of the body. Understanding arises after.

You’re damn right.

@Alex bliss That’s the realization of the actuality of love / being.

@Bridge to Infinity Need is an inward projection, and will never resonate because the source of you needs nothing, it is unconditional happiness. Want, is an outward orientation. Let go of the need belief, and the judgments of your wanting.

@Matt8800 So true ??

@EvilAngel You’re refusing the truth of your awesomeness, and the mind is going to great lengths not to feel love. You’re not “evil”, you’re judging yourself. That’ll never feel good or ‘work out’ because you are one, already whole. You can’t actually judge your self. There’s one. This is why it feels terrible. Because it’s non-sense. That is a rather perfect description of the experience of insisting you are “evil”, or “bad”, and your true self, your inner being, (FEELING) saying “That’s not true.“ The “core” is Absolute Unconditional Love. That is why your self beliefs feel so relatively terrible - because essentially, your beliefs are perfectly false. Keep insisting it’s true, and you keep suffering. Start letting go, let it out, talk to someone if that helps, and you begin liberating yourself from the suffering. It is likely someone in your upbringing didn’t inspect their own beliefs, and you internalized their behaviors, and defined (created beliefs) yourself. They were never true. It’s up to you, and you are fully able to do this. I wish you well. ♥️

It’s hard to resent people. It’s easy to start writing down what you want, and choosing good feeling thoughts about it. “Reducing the thinking” is great. It’s not “total”, because, desire. “If the responses that I get on this forum help me I promise that once my issues are resolved I'll spend more time on the forum trying to help others.” Obviously you already know some things you want. Do you see the condition you’re holding / believing? Drop the condition, and just do that. Give love, and learn as you go. Willingness, humbleness. You’ll experience how it feels good to love, and to do what you want. No need for conditions.

What they want to. Not for “meaning”, simply because they want to. What do you want?

Let go of the condition ‘you must control your thoughts’, and just write down what you actually want in this life. You could say this is taking responsibility for your own happiness and well being. It could also be said that as you are simply positioned to choose a better feeling thought, there isn’t any actual “taking responsibility” to be found. Some people spend lifetimes on thoughts about thoughts. Some just pick one, now. Set intention. Choose thoughts aligned with intention, thoughts that feel good. Watch what you are wanting unfold right in front of you, “inexplicably”. Resistant thought arises: slow down, acknowledge the feeling of discord. ”What’s a better feeling way to look at this?” Thought arises.

@Nemo28 If there is no separation between you & thoughts, you & sensation, you & perception - if there is no separation - then how many are you?

@coconutwater Did not care for those sites, but, there’s no problem with content, nor reality, ego, the devil, thought, or feeling. Judgement & blame simply don’t feel good, and we can pick better feeling thoughts. Might be some stuff you experienced and or did, which was inadvertently (innocently) used to create identity beliefs, which now seem to be preventative of expressing feeling, expressing what you do want. There’s no reality to leave and get back to. The beliefs come back, perspective follows. The good news is, they’re just beliefs. They don’t hold up to much scrutiny.

@SoonHei Not as familiar with websites & forums as it might seem.

@coconutwater Oh, interesting thanks. My kids & I will check them out now. Appreciate you mentioning it. ??

@Nate0068 What if you’re a holodeck and forgot who you are? “I’m not a holodeck, I’m a person.” How do you know that? ”I learned it.” Where’d ya learn that? ”...the holodeck...?”

What is that? Other forums basically? Tv shows?

“I’m not in control of my thoughts” is just another thought. You can believe it, or not believe it. Establish what you want, what you really, actually, want. Then notice how a thought resistant to that, feels. Notice how a thought aligned with that, feels. We aren’t ‘made’ to ruminate. We’re creating. Don’t talk about the cards all night. Use them to play poker.