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@Dumuzzi Thanks. Didn’t realize I was arguing. Sorry about that. Did you mean, like, I’m arguing against marriage, yet am married...? Or against multiple partners, while having one...? Not sure what you mean there. ??

@Dumuzzi Eh, I don’t know man. I don’t have those beliefs, not that I’m saying they’re right or wrong. I do have a very happy marriage though, and a mind free of judgment.

@Dumuzzi Yes, I’ve read them. Sometimes we forget that the writings are someone’s words, ideas, interpretations...and we believe it is true.

@Dumuzzi “Some of it comes from my own experiences, some from those of my friends and extensive conversations we've had about the topic and a lot from other sources, such as by studying history and societies in different historical time periods, as well as the similarities and differences between different societies in various parts over the world over time. The topic is so vast, that I can barely hope to outline even the basics of it. But, just to give you a taster, in Thailand for instance, it is common for girls to stay virgins until marriage, even if marriage never comes. So there are literally a ton of 40-year old virgins over there, who did not get married for one reason or another, therefore they never had sex. I used to date a girl like that, she was 35 at the time and she never had sex with anyone before me. When we slept together, it was assumed by her that we were now committed to each other and would be getting married soon, in fact she started pressuring me on that front almost immediately and there was considerable pressure from her parents too. In the end, our relationship didn't work out. However, I've heard many stories from Thai-Farang (White Western Foreigner) relationships, where the guy assumed they could just lay a girl and dump her. Such a move is incredibly risky and could end in retribution from the girl or her family. I've even heard of stories where the girl's father took out a hit on the guy who disrespected her daughter in that way. This is just to illustrate the good girl - bad girl dichotomy I talked about. You can play around with girls you might pick up in a bar, but you'd better not disrespect a good girl or you'll most definitely be sorry. Admittedly, things are now changing due to western influences, but even today, there are facebook groups for Thai girls for instance where they expose guys that are "players" and warn others away from them. This is just one example, but I could give you many others on how social mores vary across time and cultures.” But can you see what that actually is....a thought, arising now...believed...influencing you? Not saying it is right or wrong, or good or bad, just wondering if you see what I’m saying here.

? Some examples of what is only a thought, arising... That is a thought about an I, a self referential thought. “Javfly hasn’t had a mystical experience”. See how sneaky the ox is? At the same time, create it. Go have mystical experiences. Sooo sneaky. Just an “ I “ and we’re into story town. Awareness of that thought. You’re Grand Central Station, always...it only seems that you got on a train (a thought) and left. Consciousness folds into itself, so to speak. So there is the apparent continuum of this, creation...and there is the inward path to what is already a backwards / inward movement, or Self Discovery. There is not only not “one who is done”, but also infinite Self discovery of who you actually are. Infinity is infinite. Look at the hand. Touch the wall. That is your infinite Self. There is no unreal, no nonexistence, no “out there”.

@Forrest Adkins I didn’t. You did. You’d be scamming yourself. It’s one of the questions to which the answer is so clear, it just get’s skipped over without consideration. Are you not “channeling” right now? Are your words “just coming from nowhere”?

@Javfly33 Ever played a video game in which you acquired stuff along the journey, developed (unlocked) skills, etc? Ever notice you are not that character in the video game, as ‘into it’ or ‘attached’ as you might have been to enjoying the game? It’s light, on a screen. What’s the light? The screen. Are you the character (light), or the screen? Do you come & go? Does all that appears to come & go, come & go, within awareness? ....Awareness, come & go?

@Kalki Avatar Good luck not blowing this off right out of the gate ? but...give Abraham Hicks a solid listen or two. It’s your ‘two birds’ in one. @Dumuzzi Of what you said...what of it is belief, what of it is conjecture & influence, what of it is your own judgements (which seem not to be, by assigning authority to another)...what of it can you honestly say, is actually absolute truth?

@Forrest Adkins Who would you actually be scamming?

Start with quieting the mind in meditation, and presence throughout the day. Stomach breathing consciously is ideal. Then contemplate in a specific “ask the question and then truly let it go’ manor. With practice, you find that in the having emptied of the question, the ‘answer’ or response indeed does arise. Practice this more. Overtime, it becomes clear there is not a ‘separate you’ / “the channeler”...just...you. Anyone can “channel”...it’s just “of” Now...while most seem to “be” in past and or future. Also keep in mind, it can just be a “scam”. But keep in mind, appearance, and actuality entirely, too. In the sense, do you believe your doctor, your teachers, your boss....are “not a scam”? How do you define “scam” and “not a scam”? Now notice, intuitively, you already know the answer, regarding “scam” or not. Not all “answers” are dualistic (thought). Sweet avatar pic btw.

Imagine a character in a movie sitting down and beginning to realize he’s been reacting - following a script, filling the roles of a character. And more deeply, the actor begins to realize he’s been ‘playing the part’ of a human. Upon further inspection, ‘he’ discovers who he actually is, and as such, is entirely free - always was. So he begins living the life he actually wants, free of ‘others thinking’, free of ‘self referential thinking’. “Sense”, is feeling...sensation. When viewed through the ‘what other people think’ or ‘what is logical & appropriate’ (collective beliefs) lenses...logic is misunderstood as ‘making sense’. “Makes sense” is feels amazing, or, the living of life which is full of sens-ation, in love of “living”. In this, new sense is “made”, siddhis, intuition, etc. I think this is because you’re looking at your experience from a one sided limited view. In noticing “you” are not “doing the walking” per se, you reduced your idea of you, rather than realizing your idea of you is just an idea, and never was actually you. You could say, relatively speaking to that reference, that actual you is the ground, the motion, the electromagnetic field, gravity, energy, etc. Rather than reducing an idea of you, inspect, scrutinize, actual you. What is meaningful...to you? Do that. Not so much “wrong”, just on the path, self discovering. The ego is made up. It’s a word used for where quantum meets atomic. A “line”. But there is no line there, it’s just where logic breaks down, where infinite wave appears to be finite particles. So in only thinking...this is where thinking breaks down. In feeling though...meaning & purpose are made anew, in the discovery of who you really are. Both are already unfolding perfectly as one. Enjoy the adventure of living, and the metadventure of discovery the true nature of self & reality. It’s truly the journey of a lifetime. “Play it out”...why do you want to achieve something? ...for the experience, & how it feels. There’s an a priori assumption of “how it works”...that you’ll feel better, when you’ve achieved more. But upon ‘having achieved more’...the great feeling, fades, and there is a new ‘thing’ to achieve, to feel the high again. You can see that without the assumption ‘I’ll feel better when’, is conditional living / feeling. Without the conditions, the greatest feeling, is now. If you think about it - there’s no feeling in a past or future. There simply is no past or future. These are thoughts, which only ever arise, now. Now, is when feeling is. Only, now. They don’t feel good, and you’re focusing on them. What does feel good for you? Focus on that, you’ll experience more & more of it. You have thoughts about what other people think. That is not actually what other people think. It’s what you think, that other people think. If there is ‘high worthwhile value’, or if there is ‘low worthless value’....it’s your own thought, your own perspective, your own belief. What feels best for you, what ‘lights you up’? That is actually valuable to you. Do more of that. Give some attention to your direct experience. Have you even experienced real and unreal ? Have no experienced existence, and nonexistence ? Thinking is quite sneaky. Ideas of unreal, or, nonexistence, are not the same as directly experiencing unreal, or, nonexistence...are they? Wherever you are, is here. You’re the one ‘thing’ which can never be lost. There is only the believing of thoughts (like Is am lost’), or not. You’re exactly where you “should” be, you’re where you are. Prior to thought, to judgment of it...it’s already perfect, and you can relax and enjoy it as such. Inspecting, contemplating, as you are, is “facing fears”. They’re all made up, so it feels wonderful to debunk them. Love is very funny in this way, and can be no other way. That is, to experience, you had to forget who you really are. What is the source of feeling...what is the value in terms of feeling and maximizing the living & the love experience, in getting all of what you want in this life on a dream board in front of you, so that it all begins to become clear, and in doing so, more & more enjoyable & effortless? If there is no separation, such as between the ‘thinking’ and the ‘feet walking’...what happens when you honestly write on the board, what you’re wanting...and let all resistant thoughts to it - go?

@oMarcos Sorry to hear, it does sound like a rough past. If it is not ‘in your way’, then it’s not. If you do feel it is, how so? What obstacles are you encountering?

@zeroISinfinity ‘Sick’ would be # two. This get’s right to the two perspectives, and my disclaimers.

@randomguy123 What do you imagine it would be like if a reset button was pushed, & every and all symptoms stopped? Would they start up again? How? What would be the chain of events? Or would they not? Why not?

@randomguy123 What if the blockage is the retelling of the story that you have a blockage?

@Einsteinonacid You don’t have to continue to believe what doesn’t feel good to you, nor do you have to let the past define or steer you in anyway. ♥️ In every case, you’re getting more of what you’re focusing on. If you want to make millions and have a beautiful wife, you certainly can. Focus on it, beautify it in your mind and heart. When a self defeating thought, which is not in alignment with what you want arises, let it go. Short of that, you’ll continue missing all the extraordinary ways what you are wanting is already coming.

Could you expand on that a bit?

@Dlavjr Very astute man.

@StarStruck Try conscious or unconscious, rather than in control or not in control. Might be clarity & relief found. Assuming you would not consciously choose to feel bad...if the desire for control feels bad, acknowledge you’ve gone unconscious, and listen to the feeling. “Come back” so to speak by choosing a better feeling thought. When you’re feeling better, write about that feeling, explore it. Extract the understanding & release you seek from it.

Have you explored / considered that the environment & people in it were in discord with their feelings, and you learned this, but haven’t unlearned it yet? By unlearn it, I mean by gaining the emotional intelligence, and understanding why they were that way...how they suppressed their feeling, and acted out of ignorance. We learn to understand the world and our emotions, sometimes, in inaccurate ways. The emotional / self misunderstandings go unnoticed, and get labeled as attention disorders. Focus, or, attention, in most fundamental, and like many things on the path, is a matter of uncovering rather than adding more to. Maybe it’s an intuitive emotional response. (Speculating.) I’d explore that feeling. Nothing is “wrong” with you. The feeling is communicating something. Some of us grew up in environments which left us considering if we are right or wrong, good or bad...but we can get behind these circular beliefs by considering why we even started to believe in judgment in the first place. Understanding emotional intelligence & paradox could be the key to transcending, and “uncovering” focus & attention. Different things work for different people, but imo nothing’s wrong to be fixed. Just a misunderstanding about self & world to be understood. Then you move up the emotional scale and naturally experience more of what you are wanting to in life, and far less ruminating of thought resulting in what would be experienced as much more focus. I see focus & attention, from a meta-perspective of consciousness folding within itself to create experience. Focus is as inherent and natural as gravity. If someone said to me “something’s wrong with gravity”, I’d say we might have an inaccurate belief we could uncover.

@Raptorsin7 @zeroISinfinity ???♥️. Sooooooooo sneaky!!! ?

I know right? It’s on it’s way.

Is the speed of light a ceiling, a limit...or how All Experience can be? What isn’t light? What isn’t energy? Why do you suppose, you’re loving all this contemplation & inquiry? Why’s it have that good, reconnective, wholeness feeling? Reiki. Ray-Key. Light-Love. Go try it. ”In the beginning, God said...... (Swap “firmament” for “forgetting”, and it’s makes a lot more sense)

Right...that’s why there aren’t any. @Aaron p ? I remember a trip where my buddy and I stumbled onto the question....”wait...wait a minute.........what’s a “trip” ???? “ which, if memory serves, was followed by the revelation...”hold on, hold on....this means only volcanos are volcanic!...but they are volcanic!” Couple a’ geniuses solving the mysteries of the universe.

* How I am creating emotions. Right under my nose! Have been since day one! Sneaky fucker. ???