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@Llight That wasn’t a comment about you, it was about what you said. On a thread about percentage of population understanding, what is ‘cool’ and what is ‘common’ is on topic. Also, it’s not “hard” because it’s not what’s happening.

Yeah...why not?

@AwakenedSoul444 The mind body is itself the spontaneity.

@intotheblack Anytime ♥️

Indeed, but, ‘They know not what they do’. (It’s you)

@cotton-candy007 I’d first get understanding of the relationship between thought & feeling. Could save you decades. Without a proper frame of reference, what can be realized in an hr, could other wise never be realized in a lifetime. The “problem” or challenge of this, is we have a current thought / feeling paradigm, which is not working at full capacity, and doesn’t feel good...but one does not have that frame of reference, because it is the only paradigm they know.

Very insightful.

@Llight Cool.

That’s actually only your thought. You don’t know what anyone else thinks, or how they understand the relationship between how they feel and their thoughts. “Normal”, “”average”, these are useful for a lot, but they don’t apply to believing your thoughts. Judging one’s own thoughts is an impossible challenge, as they can not hurt you, a thought is just a thought. Ignoring the feeling, thought can seem like more that thought. But it’s not. “Sense” refers to sens-ation. Common sense, is putting feeling, before thoughts. This inherently sheds the very beliefs, and thus liberates one of the suffering. To me, that comment you made sounds like “well if you’d see it my way, you’d know how bad it feels”. Sense is so common, it’s infinitely abundant...but can also be suppressed by thinking / believing thoughts.

@Son of leo Take a minute now, and write the exact opposite thoughts...? See for yourself that you can change how you look at things, you’ll inevitably find you can have your cake and eat it to. Want, rather than need, is the doorway to noticing attachment to thought. “I might want them to see things my way....but I sure as heck don’t need them to.” You can do, be, and have anything you dream up. Notice when thoughts feel resistant and stop, and inspect the thought / feeling relationship. Never ignore the feeling and believe the thought. How bout starting a dream board? Just having fun, day dreaming, wishful thinking...getting everything you want up on the board. Not doing any of it, not even thinking of doing any of it. The sole purpose, just being to express it in a fun playful way.

There is no truth in that statement.

The believing of thoughts is sneakier than you’re noticing. The very time you’re spending trying to get them to see things your way, is the time you could be meditating. This is distraction, believing thoughts. Just meditate. Write about feelings to understand them, rather than avoiding them. That was more of what I’m saying. Believing thought and ignoring feeling. Sounds like this has been going on for quite a while. I would let your neighbors be as they are. You’re (on this post) using them as your reason not to feel, essentially. Just feel your feelings. Let go of believing thoughts about wether other people are right or wrong. They have their owns thoughts. They got that covered. They have their own feelings too. No need to pretend their thoughts are related to your feelings. Your feelings, are related to your thoughts, about what they think. It’s you and your feeling & thoughts that should be most important to you. I did that too by the way, blamed everyone else. It never felt good for me either.

@Son of leo The first step on that path is inspecting the thoughts. Can you explain precisely, exactly how society is literally preventing you from doing what you actually want to do? What if your belief that you can’t do what you want to do, is the suffering...as in, feeling is telling you that thought isn’t true, but you’re ignoring your feeling, and continuing to belief the thought?

You’ve never experienced “being two”, so when you notice that self referential thinking, notice feeling is guiding you. Instead of believing the thought, listen to feeling, and inspect the thought. If you ignore the feeling and continue believing the thoughts, the feeling won’t change. I’d inspect what you mean by “nothing” for any assumptions. You might be talking about it somewhat carelessly, as in, not noticing you are talking about something which you’ve never actually experienced. It’s a habit of thought to ‘write off’ thoughts in that manor. Got to notice. That would be assumption...that there is a mind which is somewhere else. If you inspect that thought for truth, you might find the opposite to be more true. In simply believing the thought, you miss that you have never experience “a mind somewhere else”. Much of common language used hides the truth which is in plain sight, especially as thoughts being believed without being scrutinized for validity. You didn’t inspect the thoughts...then you labeled feeling as bad (scared). Feeling is not “bad”. Listen to the feeling, it’s telling the truth about those thoughts. Don’t write it off to “scary”. Inspect the thoughts you already have going, rather than adding more.

@PlayOnWords Congrats! ? Have you experienced any body oriented healing modalities yet? Short of that, watch the trap of thinking there is resolution created by thinking. It’s a slippery slope that leads back to healing the body every time, wether by modalities or purification, as they are the same.

@Son of leo Any reasoning as to why you can not live the self actualized life and experience everything you want to in your life, is up to you. Attachment as suffering to be addressed, is not to things, as there are no “things”, the attachment is to the thoughts. Start simple, with a cup. Notice the perception is only the perception, and the word “cup” is a thought. A thought is not what that is, as a thought is a thought, and perception is perception. Seems like your dad would have covered this rudimentary stuff...?

It’s so tricky, but the point is to let that thought go. If you can appreciate how sneaky a single thought believed can be....the point of the practice is to let go of stories “about you”. Rather than believe that the thought is about you, meditate and notice you’re aware of the thought. A thought can never be about you, and be true.

@Ingit If you stopped telling the story of a you and an ego...would there be any problem? Wouldn’t there just be one thought right now, and how you feel? Is there really a second party involved? The thought “ I am disappointed with me “ is said as if you are assigning thought or feeling to some second you, which is the suffering. The judge and the one being judged, are “both” you. Maybe feeling is simply saying, this doesn’t make any sense.

@TheAvatarState For sure. I could see something like ‘perception therapy’, changing thought patterns. Seems a matter of how fast it unfolds. Also, on Minecraft...creative vs survival...lot communicated there too...as well as that they are the same ‘game’.

@Derek White That is an amazing example, thanks!

@TheAvatarState I’m with you on this 100%. It is mind blowing.

@lbranjord I’d watch this https://www.actualized.org/articles/all-criticism-is-untenable And also do some practices for the body and release of emotions.

Saw a lady’s YouTube channel today who is apparently launching the ultra-neo-Advaita movement.

@Red-White-Light I heard he got the message during trip #142.

@Raptorsin7 If the question is if it’s a good time to release, surrender, let go, answer’s always yes.