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I sometimes wonder which word has been diluted more...consciousness, food, or God.

@Mongu9719 You won’t be able think your way to what you’re wanting to ‘see’ in this regard. You haven’t yet recognized what’s being said. Thought is ‘made of’ consciousness, self. You can try to grasp water all day, but it will continue slipping through your fingers every time. The rock, is pure consciousness, and has no need for reasoning. The experiential resonance with the absolute source of you...feeling & thought resonance, is ‘your vibration’. It’s only possible because everything is pure consciousness, therefore, ‘it’ is not possible. An AI is pure consciousness too - ‘consciousness’ can be linguistically and medically useful as a reference in the way you are asking, but the term used another way refers to what is prior to experience entirely, & prior to thinking. Soon, average intelligence and wakefulness will be such that the word ‘consciousness’ will no longer be used in ignorance of this. It’s important not to conflate, but at the same time to notice correlation between the path of an individual, and the path of mankind. SD’s is not a ‘process’, it is a conceptual model used descriptively, to assist in expanding understanding cognitively. Surely we can derive processes of it, but it is not to be internalized in any concrete way, as not to identify with stages, wether self or other.. Rocks & animals do not have egos, so they don’t have beliefs. In noticing the tendency to project ‘humanness’ / thinking, questioning, onto animals, we uncover a wonderful opportunity to see this transpiring in all our relationships.

@Mongu9719 Consciousness is prior to your thoughts, and what your thoughts are ‘made of’. Rocks & animals are consciousness, they don’t believe they are separate.

Sounds like you experienced intuition & the vibratory nature of reality when you were takin it light & easy, having fun, and venturing out. I’d keep that in mind most. Then it sounds like the twoness of thinking split that sweetness and created an apparent duality...”if I can positively influence, that must mean I can negatively influence”. You can’t though. Only positively. That is how we each create fear. Other people might have beliefs that resonate with yours & match frequencies with you, and of course they might mirror expressions, tones, and body language, even thought patterns, but technically you’re not causing a lowering of their vibration. There is one source and it is good. There is not a source of “bad”, that’s duality / judgement / ignore-ance, at the surface-thought level. It’s not getting any ‘electricity’. On the “self obsession” ...’the force’ is a fictional reference to what is actual. Letting thought go indirectly by putting all attention to perception & sensation might be a useful progressive exploration. ”I can manipulate the environment even though that was not what I was trying to do” ...“Unintentionally in control of manipulating”. Those phrases don’t make logical sense, but come from intuition (feeling&thought), prior to dualistic “thinking”. There’s a paper thin line between being conditional, and unconditional being. Sounds like you went back and fourth on that line, so to speak. Maybe you are instinctually receptive at the vibratory level. You might be surrounded by muggles and not have realized it. I wouldn’t close the book on “introverted” just yet. “Smile and the world smiles with you, cry and you cry alone.” ― Stanley Gordon West

Somebody in human history had the balls to call bullshit, bullshit.

@Roy You definitely sound like someone who got their shit together to me. Congrats. As you said, attitude is everything.

We innocently, inevitably create our own suffering. When the willingness to heal arises, it’s followed by the purification of all those things we filed away via our ignorance of who we are. It’s the rough part of the movie, but has a great ending. In a broad stroke, it seems the extent to which we rejected ourselves, we love & heal ourselves. Can also be rough, but the loophole is we can help each other.

@Victor Mgazi Beautiful man.

@Prevailer Amen to that. I was asking if you were sure about that. That God is infinite.

You sure about that?

@Prevailer What do you mean when you say you fail miserably?

@Pell I agree with where you’re coming from, but I’m not intending to imply an “instead of”. We can also include the other options out there to be experienced as well. As a more concrete example, I experienced meditation daily for many years, then massage, then tai chi, then psychedelics, then writing about feelings, then contemplation, then yoga, then a few different meditation techniques, then self inquiry, then reiki, then jin shin jyutsu, etc, etc.

@Prevailer My bad, I meant, you, are awesome.

@Prevailer awesome.

@AdamDiC Great report, solid insights. Also, never take 3.0-3.9 imo. Trip prior to or beyond the chaos, rather than aiming to bath in it.

@Prevailer if you ‘have’ thoughts, are you separate from them?

@Javfly33 Nothing. Acceptance is not a causation. Acceptance is itself you. The thought, ‘time’...slippery slope. But not really, because it’s a thought. Impatience is the result of a belief in a “future “...also just a thought.

⬆️???? @Ingit Then.... Notice everything on that paper that you don’t want, derive from it what you do want, and write that on your dream board.

@dimitri ♥️ What dreams may come. ?

@okulele Welcome. It’s just self referential thinking. Note the difference between the feeling - creating...and the thought about one’s self as a creator, in terms of overthinking and “creating” a self image. The great news is you can’t not be a creator. The “catch” is, you can’t believe you are the (human) creator. Or, more simply, create like a kid whom ‘what other people think of me as a creator’ never occurs. “Like holding back vomit after a night of heavy drinking” The thought is judgmental of a “musician”. The feeling is saying “no! You’re the whole gig!”.

@Prevailer The thought of myself...in contrast to...myself is aware of thought. Without the thought ‘two biological computers’...that which is being referred to as duality, is no longer “known” as such, and that which is being referred to as “autopilot”, is actually manual, or, “creation”. “Biological” is a survival paradigm write off, for a creation / creating actuality.

@fork Yes, this ‘algorithm’ though is reality as it appears. Knowledge is the limiter, the ‘duper’, not the actuality. The actuality doesn’t have an answer, it is the answer. The “meta=cognition” of knowledge, is the transcendence of it, the seeing through it, the recognition of what is appearing. ”Screen”, is a thought. That (“this screen”) is perception. Notice the thought “screen” is a word we learned. A label. But the actuality, is perception...(and a thought...”screen”). Notice the thought “knowledge” is a word we learned. A label. This will eat itself until ultimately you logically arrive at the relationship between the Big Bang, reality, and ‘you’.

What “error”...? When you think a thought about yourself / reality, which is not true, it doesn’t feel good. So you choose a better feeling thought. It’s “working” flawlessly. You’ve never experienced being two. You just haven’t inspected the stories repeating in thinking, about a “you”. We do that to avoid feeling. Here’s an example from someone I talked with recently... Their “problem” was with being / feeling alone. They’d been focused on this & suffering for a very long time. The thought was “I don’t want to be alone, ever”. The feeling was fear / anger, and then shame / guilt when they judged their thinking & feeling. Feeling, is one. Thinking, is twoness (opposites / duality). They were focusing on the thought (duality)...”alone”, so they didn’t feel. It sounded a bit like...”rather than feeling..I’m just someone who doesn’t like to be alone”. They believed the fear, which they were actually making up, was basically “out there”, or, “just how I am”, or, “just how it is”. The thought “alone” was a ‘write off’. A way to not feel the feelings. We talked, they felt the feeling. They experienced tremendous relief & clarity, and were very pleasantly surprised to feel what the feeling was telling them all along about themself. They realized, the feeling was responding to the actual thinking, which was fear of togetherness...fear of rejection...self judgement. They found the feeling was telling them that the way they were ‘thinking about what other people think of them’ never felt good. They realized none of the thinking there had any truth.

That reads like an ad for Reiki classes. Read the books, but, you can’t experience that in a book.

@Javfly33 What if you had laughed knowing it was just a dream? What “prevented” that...what’s the worry? Maybe the dream is uncovering that for you to inspect and see through. The reason why you cannot be an “object “, is because you are already you. If you were an object, “who” would be the subject? Clearly, this is getting ridiculous here, as you are already the subject and object. That is the only logical possibility. Unless you believe a thought to the contrary, but still, you are the awareness of a thought. If more clarity is desired there, simply “find” the separation between you and a thought.