Nahm

@4201 The technique sounds perfect. The rest is discordant conjecture and is basically a relentless molestation of meditation.

@ValiantSalvatore ”Ways to do it” is the trap. All the information doesn’t add up to anything. Literally, at all. Information can always be presented such that it will. Thoughts can arise that it will, but it is all aversion which by default does not attract. Well, it would to the extent of manifesting, yet not to the point of actually experiencing. To experience, it would seem something is not yet understood. Something not yet learned, something not yet done. That “something” would be conjecture, or, you didn’t come up with it, you heard it. Maybe a lot of it. Got vacuum, not plugging it in yet. Put what you unabashedly want on the dreamboard. Settle when you can not take anymore voltage, not for information.

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@Zeroguy Zero space between us. ??

This is emotional suppression and aversion via conceptual existential rumination, and that is conjecture (a learned “way”). It’s never too late to express earnestly & understand completely. Emotional scale. Expression journaling. Think ahead. Order a case of tissue. The “conclusion” that the concept of green (SD’s ideology) is prior to manifestation could certainly be let go. That’s a real stickler of a belief, as are nihilism & depression. Definitely don’t venture into solipsistic aversion next. Choose a practice instead. Imo, meditation first thing, everyday… preceded by clean diet, enough sleep, and some exercise. Like a canoe in a stream, there is a current. You don’t even have to paddle. You can just allow. A teaching worthy of one’s time imo, whereas this pimpin is an “art”. Imo, don’t blur the ‘line’, dispell it completely - make a dreamboard. Every. Day. Emotional numbness is not an emotion. You are absolutely innocent.

@Zeroguy AIn’t no rehearsal.

Maybe you shouldn’t.

@Zeroguy

The truth is you’re not telling a story about yourself… you’re believing thoughts, aka, experiencing thought attachment, or, ‘the matrix’. When you’ve had enough suffering, you’ll meditate each morning and the matrix will naturally come to rest and end, and liberation is. It’s just a story. A discordant one. But try every thing until it is unequivocally seen that neither trying nor things will do. Until it is fully seen the things you say, don’t even feel good to you, and thus you create the suffering. Misery loves company. Truth loves being alone & does not know company. You can not convince others to suffer enough, to sympathize enough, to attend enough, to enable enough, to commiserate enough, to understand enough, to support enough, to love enough, to bring an end to your suffering. We all wish sometimes perhaps, but it is not so. You love.

@Raptorsin7 Thank you! ?

Meditation. Consciousness is not an output or product of people. People can not be more conscious. This is just conjecture. Therapy is for expression, for you to empty of you - not to make you more conscious.

You’re blind though. By the tension. That’s a belief. Who is just an idea of Horton’s. I wouldn’t do ya like that my good man. Meditation. Discord isn’t fundamental.

@Raptorsin7 You’re referring to idea, and you have much honesty to go. If what you say here is true, you’d not be talking about relaxation, you’d be blissed out right now. Advising can be aversion, and almost always is. Advising is therein reduced to just another substance. Simply inspect intention. Feel into the discord which was and is prior to the conceived intention, vs employing the intention in discord believing it will resolve, the discord. Then, it is seen relaxation was always ‘there’, the default, and it is you who is creating the tension. Not the dishonestly proclaimed you, the idea. The idea & the separate self are one in the same. Expression.

@Raptorsin7 Then who are you talking about?

@4201 In the bible, it is suggested when you find yourself eating the fruit of the knowledge of good & bad and feeling the burn, to listen to the sword (truth which cuts through all) which points you to the tree of life, of what you want, in your life. Grounding Meditation. Dreamboard. (*only for kindergarteners!)

That’s too cryptic. ⬆️ There are three awarenesses, and a spectrum? Very confusing. Maybe we don’t need to think about it at all to have this discussion. Maybe there’s some beliefs there. Nahm never gave you advice about ‘stopping thought’. There was less projection at the drive in. @Raptorsin7 ”I don’t ever feel truly relaxed.” ? “who?” ?

If you are having awakenings, it’s not really awakening it’s spiritual ego… experience(s) being labelled awakening(s) and identified by. Conjecture. With ‘real’ or ‘actual’ awakening, there’s no identity, no thoughts therein, and thus there isn’t the craving & aversion. Cessation. That meditation takes too long, and that God could be experienced, are thoughts which are let go in meditation.

The matrix.

Meditation is relaxing and is not rigorous, and doing so each morning is choosing to put how you feel before what you think. ?? No “nonduality teacher” can be a supplement for meditation. This is aversion. When one gets tired enough of the ups & downs, one meditates each morning. This slows the thought activity, which is the “ups & downs”, the suffering. No thought about meditation is actually about meditation. It’s always a belief / projection or ‘pointing’.

Emotional maturity, and then. Or, non-manipulation of self & others.

@mandyjw Grace & clarity like a damn nonja.

The entheogen are only in fairytales. Entheogen means to ‘put in the anchor’. As in throwing anchor out of reality, into Reality.

Sounds isolating, like aversion via solipsistic conjecture.

@ZenSwift Excellent read and good for you! ??