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@Johnny5 ? (hugs)

@Nak Khid What is ‘your’ understanding of the relationship between meditation and the mind, and therefore human and world? How do those relate to each other (if at all)?

@Johnny5 Likewise, I don’t know what is meant there.

Yes, this. Let your words be an after thought of feeling. Allow that feeling of the reaction without reacting in thought or words. Just witness that. Within it is the arising of the understanding, which pairs perfectly with your courage in forgiveness. What other say is no more and no less, than what others say. What is a ‘threat to your ego’ is defined by, and thus experienced by, and therefore is always up to you. In ‘witness’ or ‘observer’ mode, this is more deeply seen & known, until it is ultimately realized you are perfectly safe, no thing can ever actually hurt you. Keep letting go, keep seeing the tangle and in your nonreaction keep seeing the effortlessness of the untangle. It needs no work from you. In nonresponse, the goodness of your being, the understanding that you are is more and more realized as this peace, this presence.

@BipolarGrowth Yes! ? (hugs)

@zeroISinfinity Take two of these and call me in the morning. Be sure to listen closely as not to get any wrong ideas. Only a fool would come this far only to start over. The healing is in the pain. The perfection of the imperfection.

@zeroISinfinity Hearing only lost in the siddhis, alone in the heals, such a plea falls upon the deaf and blind. I am no one’s carpet ride.

Tool is love indeed. ? Feelin that. ?? How bout this sneaky little Pete....who’d of ever guessed... “You know where you are?! You’re in the jungle baby!! You’re gonna die!!’. ... an Ode to Shiva and the monkey mind of “reality”...

Somethings are worthy repeating. Apparently.

@Javfly33 ??

Some stuff I found to work for this ‘meat sack’...Rethink posture ‘from the ground up’, research it, and go for daily walks of alignment. Strengthen the back with some weight training / resistance exercises. Don’t eat after around 7pm at night. Don’t eat sugar or other inflammatory foods, and don’t drink carbonated beverages. You can also see a chiropractor if possible / available. Sometimes little things are found to be making a big difference, like a leg being a tiny bit longer than the other, etc, which can be rectified by shoe inserts, etc.

@lmfao No worries man. I’ll try to remember to refrain from commenting on your threads. I appreciate that you mentioned something, sorry if I was critical or offensive. Didn’t intend to be.

Scientology, obviously.

@capriciousduck Threads with @, private messages...whatever you’re comfortable with.

@Javfly33 ?????

@zeroISinfinity Sadhguru isn’t even being Sadhguru. Thus he’s the best Sadhguru. Yes, you’re nothing if not free. Or is it free if not nothing. Dunno. Hard to remember.

I’ll ‘take another shot’...enlightenment is not the end of anything, nothing began. There is already no you, physical body, life ‘inside’ which could ‘dissolve’ into a “central consciousness”. There is no “existence in form”, nor is there a “getting there in this lifetime”. There is no “next lifetime”. There is no “previous lifetime”. There is no current, or “present” lifetime. There is no “you” which an “it” happens to. There is no “hardcore decision” nor devotion, nor an “it” to aim at, nor is there any spectrum of selflessness or selfishness. There is however, “thoughts”, mistaken to be something other than you, and therefore the story or content of the thoughts is taken to actually be about all of this “other than you” “stuff”. There is no such thing as evolution, or a world evolving. You’re dreaming that there is, and that there’s a you “in it”. The previous ramble, is essentially saying, it all seems the way it does, “to you”, not because it is, but because of your beliefs. They are like filters held over a flashlight, and the flashlight is believing the light on the wall to “be the way it is”, only because it isn’t noticing the filters. The “filter” is an apparent finite mind. So “everything” seems to be, finite, form, things, objects...”evolving”, etc. “You” can continue the charade of “getting to that light”, or you can look at the filters. They are felt, all day, everyday, so to speak. There is no “center” of infinity, which is precisely why “in” this appearance, in it’s apparent entirety, “you” appear to be the very center of the entire universe. Don’t believe me. Google it. Go outside and look up. If you’re inspired to, research and ‘wrap your head around’ the differences, the “hard problem of science”, between general & special relativity and quantum mechanics. Be sure to include “yourself” in the looking. No need to bring a flashlight.

@Loving Radiance This is already Being. There is already no identification. Doing, identification, choice, and acting are thoughts supported by beliefs of time, space, birth, death, energy, etc. Apparent finite narrative overlaid upon the actuality of the presence of infinite being. Moving is apparent. ‘All else’ appears in absolute perfection as if, or making it seem like, there is ‘someone inside’ doing, moving, thinking, choosing. There is no inside or outside. There is no separation between awareness and what awareness seems to be aware of. No separation between formless and the appearance of form. The “finite” is the infinity. To bring this a bit back to topic, the sorting and sifting of “influencers” upon “me” is a perpetuation of the identity of “the one” doing, thinking, choosing, acting...sorting. This ‘substance’ ‘we’ are is absolutely free. Freer, we could say, than this.

@lmfao The idea of there being two paths in a sense comes to mind. That of desire being a nature of fear, and that of desire being a nature of love. I suspect you inherently, profoundly know the latter, and yet are ‘dipping your toes’ in the prior. I wouldn’t do that. You are the light and the joy. The appearance of you & your world are what creativity is. I think you’re pigeonholing the best, most beautiful aspects of your being, as something which ‘needs to die’. That perspective is mundane, and that doesn’t resonate. So “mundane” ‘ain’t it’. You’re it. The best of you is “it”, always has been, and always will be. You’re naturally lighthearted, loving & sincere. It almost feels as if you’re expecting the best of you to die. Perhaps there is a calling for more nuance in life direction, a clearer picture of what you want to commit to and create. Maybe while you could be looking at that in a light & easy going way which is actually natural for you...maybe you’ve picked up some beliefs from other people that this life & nonduality stuff must have a serious stage, a loss stage, a ‘dying of reality’ stage, etc. I’m betting it’s clear to you in your heart and in your bones that is all nonsense.

As you noted, part of the path is recognizing “my first thoughts“. They don’t feel good because they are of an old paradigm which is playing itself out of the mind. Untangling. Right there in the very same knowing of those thoughts, is the love, passion and desire of which they aren’t resonating, and the presence of peace in letting the thoughts go. The knowing, love and peace are always present. Listen to that love, know that first. Then maybe some thoughts. I know it sounds silly, but in the same sense that you are knowing your foot, and all the shoes just come and go. Notice, recognize, feeling...and thoughts come and go. The ego is also believing other people need to be involved in this. They don’t. Write letters to people, without any expectation of mailing them. Empty both barrels so to speak. Empty everything that you wanna say. The problem is not about the opinions of others, it’s attachment to your thoughts, about the opinions of others. Notice others are not preventing you from taking your trip, only thoughts. Proper daily morning meditation of 40 minutes, and expressive writing completely changes this. When you do trip, the benefit of this is like an innate effortless superpower, as it is for life as well. You could “power through it “on a trip, but I don’t recommend it. Better to ‘do the work’ and let the trip be what it may. They tend to be rewarding in a beautiful sense. Thought attachment is the norm, the order. There’s no ego, no fear, and no mountain. There is literally one thought at a time, about those “things”, and the ability to relax the body and breathe from the stomach. That’s it. That’s the whole show. One thought at a time. Don’t nestle up to those “first thoughts”. Take the wheel, switch to “how do I want to feel?” “if they’re thinkin and choosin for me...then who’s thinkin and choosin for them?” At the end of the day, each one is only doing the feelin for one. Stop playing the game that’s not true. The very first step is recognizing you forgot you’re fucking awesome. ??????

“My parents don’t love me”. Is that true?

Inspect direct experience. It’s far simpler than conceptualizing. If the question arises, “Who created God”...what exactly in direct experience, as in right now, is a “who” and a “God”? Is there any direct experience of either of these? Perhaps the direct experience is precisely as it appears, thoughts. Need it be more than it is? Likewise, have you any direct experience, right now, with a “Big Bang”, or a “prior to it” - or is that also, thoughts? Then in kind... “so that God could experience itself as a creator”...is a concept, which is built on thoughts, rather than actuality, or direct experience. Further still, “was there ever any nothing before there was something”....what is nothing? What is a “something”?

@Zak If you are knowing what you are wanting, aren’t you therefore all set? Why is there anything at all that needs to be done, such as the ‘dumping’?

@Rasheed Awesome. So well said. ??

@BipolarGrowth Great share man, thanks. There is a bit of ‘muggles diagnosing wizards’, or materialist separate selves diagnosing ourself goin on. Infinite nuances too. Tricky stuff.