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@seeking_brilliance Ohhhh! Gotcha.Nice!

@0bserver If you haven’t transcended death yet reincarnation won’t make sense. Self can’t think of itself, in an actuality sense, so it’s idea of it self is subject to the idea of death. These selves & death must be recognized as ideas, a recognition-less recognition which occurs upon the ‘experience’ of the actuality. ‘Experience’ infinity, rather than the thoughts about it. Nondual is never ‘solved’ via duality. The movie Wizard Of Oz exemplifies this nicely. Also, different yet same approach, go straight into desire, express it completely in your life. Spend more time visualizing, dreaming, fantasizing, meditating & actualizing vs thinking. In regard to the op, these are transcending suffering, and also reveal the ‘stuckness’ of finite (thinking).

@seeking_brilliance It ‘goes away’ like the empty sky ‘goes away’ when it has a few clouds in it. You never go away. All formless and appearing as this and whatnot.

@Leilani See if you can notice ‘giving this all up’ is a thought. Believing that thought perpetuates the “you” which would be giving “things” up. That perpetuates that the “you” is a thing which will “die”. That perpetuates that the infinite love is something other than this very moment. The veil is now, or not at all.

@Zec The nervous system isn’t actuality a solid thing which anything (thoughts, perspectives, feeling, etc) could be “integrated into”. It is a constantly in every ‘nanosecond’ refreshed reappearance of infinite love. Therefore letting go is the way. Peace, love & understanding fills in intrinsically, automatically, and infinitely as in, there is no actual limit or end to ‘loving filling the body’. Love always is already the body. We’re condition makers and holders of conditions, until we exercise & actualize potentiality, free agency, will, letting go. Might be a profound revelation, that integration is of the ego perspective. It’s the “I” which is “getting that integrated”. When really, it’s a pointing to what can be let go. Liberation. Notice the body tensing when some thoughts of old paradigm arise, let them go by relaxing the body. As you go, this requires willingness and open mindedness to let perspectives & thoughts which do not feel good to you, go. Not let go like playing around, still focusing on it, figuring it out...letting it go and it is actually let go, never picked up again, no longer exists in your experience. The body / nervous system will release, be careful not to avoid feeling or add the old thought narratives back on, feel into feeling. Only be interested in exploring the feeling, explore every nook & cranny of feeling, and use consciously breathing from the stomach to relax and do so from a more impartial observational / awareness standpoint. You’ll become aware of reactionary living by transcending it.

The knowing of the full truth is already the case, in the sense (literal as in sensation / feeling), it can not be thought, yet by Is always known by feeling, where the alignment or discord is always present, & ‘felt’. That Truth can be thought, is a rather sneaky thought in and of itself. You might be trying to cultivate and integrate what feeling is simply giving a nope to. If so, remove the labels thinking places upon feeling. Hanging labels upon truth does in a way, cover it, like labeling a mirage a ‘lake’ covers the actuality. This, for what’s it’s worth, is the actuality of what thought hijacks and dubs “becoming more conscious”. Consciousness can not become more consciousness, as consciousness is indeed infinite. There is only to open the gift, remove the finite layers we created so innocently. Happiness is only uncovered, never culminated. Though experiential happiness like fun, pleasure, excitement, enthusiasm, is wonderful, ‘it’s’ only actual reality is the very same truth, the oft labeled happiness.

@wwhy Have a ‘mystical experience’ of infinity. Infants (you) will never seem the same.

@Javfly33 ‘Body’ is a word you learned, a thought. Feeling is feeling. Sense of self is the experience of the claiming via believing thoughts, ‘my’ body, ‘my’ feelings, and or the projection of an assumption there are others who experience a ‘sense of self’, which is again the believing of thoughts and the claiming, perhaps more disguised by the projection.

No. It’s not. That’s a dualistic thought about what is nondual. Thinking describes a thinker of thought in action, which has never occurred.

@wwhy Infants, infinite. Not identified as finite.

First you’d need to see what that’s all about.

@Mosess No mind is maintaining you.

@0bserver Ok. No worries. All I can do is point.

@Mosess Great work. Yes, perfectly normal for no mind.

It’s really difficult for one person to argue. ?

@0bserver See through that one is alive & experiencing, and that there is past & future. Understand, or recognize rather, what memory is. All definitions are relative appearance, only direct experience will do for what you’re asking.

@0bserver You can directly experience this, and it makes an incredible amount of sense. You can also say it’s a belief & disregard it.

@Javfly33 Could happen to anyone anytime for any reason. People have been known to notice people is a thought, and people are known to discount this.

You’re saying this is a belief and you’d have to directly experience this. That is what I am also saying.

@Nemo28 Much love ??

@Nemo28 How’s it easier on ayahuasca?

@Javfly33 Try to remember at what age you learned the label ‘body’.

What does that feel like?

When you’re talking about seeking you’re talking about thinking. When I’m talking about seeking I’m talking about feeling. Thus for you there is two, for me they are the same. Nonetheless, whatever feels best to you, do that.