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@Someone here If what is absolute - unconditional, eternal, unchanging - is to experience, that experience will appear conditional, temporary and changing. You and you is not an experience, you and apparently not you is experience. Infinite can never know finite. What you are saying is logical, rational, and understandable. However, you made this thread because it does not make sense. If your perspective is right, your path has ended in nonsense.

The air, the food, etc...all the needs, are appearance, just as the body is. There is no separation of objects in a dream, there is no death. Freedom doesn’t require something to be free from, though thoughts appear, and bodies purify.

The why is because you believe this is not that, so to speak. (Another hijacking).

@Someone here That world is the world, and reveals the ‘work’ to be done. That is past-less, future-less evolution. That is precisely what you are doing in the biggest picture. You don’t have to imagine it. You’re already ‘doing’ that ‘work’. Here you are, in your own dream. Someone could be uplifted, witnessing true lightheartedness, awakening to truth in your silent presence. Or they could be ‘brought down’, listening to ‘you’ complaining about ‘your body’. Always up to you, but I suggest lightheartedness is infinity, and appearance is not limitation, but freedom.

You have many beliefs which support the ‘black is blacker’ on ‘the other side’ which prevent the full realization of this. Only the blind can really see. This is the nature of the personalization, or aka ‘thread hijacking’. @electroBeam In other words, what are some some healing resources centred around universal identification? You are. It could be said to be a game of how much you feel, and therefore recognize discord from alignment, and how much you do not. You are the source of healing, and it is ever-present and unmistakable. Healing is a name for unconditional love, which is always loving the discord right out of you. If identification is truly universal, then “identification” is an archaic thing of an apparent past.

@zeroISinfinity You suffer from ‘the grass is always greener on the other side’, like most fools. It is nonsense.

@zeroISinfinity There are no “humans”! Wake up!

See through those thoughts, rather than thinking from them. It sounds like you are waking up from the façade of negative motivation, the motives of the separate self and or self image, doing for your idea of yourself doing, achieving, becoming and being seen as such. I’d make a dreamboard. It inspires because it’s derived of feeling, rather than thinking. In a nutshell, you’re in limbo, purgatory, between human motivation and divine inspiration. Living & ‘getting by’, vs creating the life you actually want. Motives of an individual vs inspiration of apparent individuation.

You will be in precisely that situation, just as you are now. Think beyond identity of one apparent human, and time. The single reason is the all, your world, yourself, your creation, you are being.

There isn’t a you carrying a body. There isn’t a soul inside a your body. There is quite literally nobody there. How would you have created experience differently so to speak? How would you have created this particular facet of experience differently?

It appears that way. If you can look at them seeing the infinite paths of transformation from material to another.. You would see they are one thing ultimately.

Love & hate.

@cetus Yep. Makes perfect sense.

Itlessness.

Yes. Yes. That you are productive with the other hours, as they likely will not understand.

Nothing’s wrong with you.

@electroBeam Help somebody.

@EmptyVase So ‘direct’ indeed, that thoughts like dualities, meditative truths, a subconscious, a body, a human, an earth, ordinary stuff, etc could almost be mistaken for actual things.

@TripleFly It gets far simpler still.

The stress and demands are not of the job or work. There is no job, work, stress, or demands, outside of your defining of them. Indeed, that is they key...to realize that is the only ‘place’ this is transpiring. There is no causation, ‘it’, you, is one whole experience. Look for the instances where a ‘that’ caused a ‘you’ the metal/emotional exhaustion & suffering...and deconstruct that experience every time it occurs. Inspect more nuance, with more acuity, to reveal to yourself it is all emanating from you / that there is no actual causation. Lovely yes, but careful to inspect that too. Would not want too much of a pattern to build there. Balance it out with the opposite. Bring time to standing still right before your eyes while ‘at work’. In many ways, that is the path to transcending the paradigm of ‘work’ vs ‘not work’, discovering ever-presence-unconditional, liberating oneself in terms of mental scope to many financial opportunities beyond the trading of time for money. One way to point to this...instead of desiring the quicker passing of time, keep a piece of paper and pen in your pocket...and dial into time, the miracle & infinite intelligence of now, and manifest your dream financial situation around you. Attract mindfully, rather than categorizing chunks of time as ‘work’ vs ‘not work’...always creating. Indeed. It is manifest-retardant. Not in the head, imo, in ‘reality’! In feeling ever present love, and wandering in this impossible perception. You’re never really ‘at work’, you’re in the mind of God - “at work”. The otherwise seemingly mundane, realized, can bring you to the ground anywhere. I realize it’s not quite fitting and aligning because I am lighthearted in truth, and laughter is the best medicine. Then I am loving and wishing well what I previously judged (took for granted / looked right past / didn’t even notice ‘who’ it really was). For the ‘overly invested’ / ‘overthinking’...more thinking won’t do, investing in anything thing won’t do. The breath, perception, feeling...letting thought and or focus upon it truly ‘go’. In true presence you might say, nothing was ever needed, and so that illustrates the ‘return’ to ‘it’. Indeed. Empathy is critical and necessary on many many levels. Empathy also doesn’t exist in so far as can be thought / conceptualized. Notice the reverse of the orientation of your question...what it points to.

@Shunyata Great thread topic / question. I’d say yes, and even to the degree it can learn how it is the perpetuation of the illusion of it’s own existence.

@Everlasting Goodness A thousand times, yes! Very relatable! I think we have quite similar paths, experiencing, views and ways of interpreting. Yes, you could say I’m into Reiki for sure. These days there’s that, and then whatever’s else seems to be going on. Meditation & awakening is what led to taking the classes. Experiencing love/reality with like minds seemed the next obvious step. Can’t even say I thought about it to be honest, it was just clearly what is happening. It was the first time I experienced siddhis, past lives, visual 4d communications of infinite mind & attunements. As far as recommendations, Reiki does have an underlying attuning system broken down in four levels, so I’d find a certified Master Reiki Practitioner / teacher, or someone with similar experience & understanding. I know it’s difficult presently, but in hindsight with what was discovered I would recommend taking the time to go wherever a solid teacher and offering of classes is, even if that means planning it further off into the future to accommodate. It stands to be a life changing experience for some, so traveling & planning around it is relatively highly worthwhile. For you, I think the learning aspects would be basic and a breeze, and the ‘hands on’ aspects would be this same expansive and mind blowing love known, perhaps with new dimensions, wonders and just generally speaking more of this ♥️ ?

@Everlasting Goodness Indeed. Really beautiful stuff. Tried Reiki classes by any chance?

@electroBeam Awesome to hear. Lol, it is a bit obnoxious but damned if it doesn’t work. I would argue that particular tragedy feeling isn’t the feeling, and that the feeling is politely whispering that the only real tragedy is missing the actuality of what is / ‘now’... to any concerns of things that never happened.

@mandyjw Yes. Just go full on reverse. It’ll all work out. Can’t fail. Lol.