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@Consept You think you’re in a reality where there is people, and or other people. That is not what this reality is, at all. That is the movie, what it appears to be. (No offense, in any personal sense). The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that the more you know about where an electron is, the less you can know about where it’s going, and vice versa. All there is to appearance is “electrons”. The Uncertainty Principle is not a revelation about electrons. It’s pointing out how focus is functioning. What you do not give your attention to - which could be said that you avoid - is literally a void, and does not “exist” in the usage of the word exist indicating appear. All of the findings of quantum mechanics are the same. They’re telling us the “facets” of how reality works.

@Michal__ Yeah, I agree. But also, that’d be true when said about literally anything lol. Dog shit at the highest level is synonymous with enlightenment. ?

That loa is a belief, that there are other people who do or don’t “believe it”, and then that it is something that could be learned & used...are reactionary thoughts. If those are breathed through & not acted upon, it can begin to be seen that loa is no more and no less what has been the case for you all along. It is descriptive of how reality is functionally appearing. What is referred to as ‘experience’ is one whole, which appears via....nothingness...vibration...particles...one whole experience (extremely condensed version). The “person” is just vibration, and is of the experience, not separate of it. ‘They’re’ a ‘condition maker’, ‘in the middle’ of an unconditional reality, which what you really are is appearing as (The One vibrating & illuminating being the one whole experience). The first step to seeing this is already the case, is noticing your vibration (state of mind / outlook / attitude / intention / how you feel generally) is indicative of what’s happening (literally, what you are creating) in your life. It’s seemless. If that’s too big of a paradigm leap, study quantum mechanics. The initial challenge of realizing loa, is one’s own karma, and that there are not multiple beings / people. (Can’t attract for another...which is really clear throughout this thread.)

@zeroISinfinity I’m not convinced you’ve even begun to put a dent In actually realizing how beautiful you are.

And apparently the sense of humor sometimes. @Ibgdrgnxxv Something to consider...when all beliefs are uncovered, that narrows down what can remain.

@mandyjw Woe men. Woe: Noun: Grievous distress, affliction, or trouble: His woe was almost beyond description. An affliction: She suffered a fall, among her other woes. Interjection: An exclamation of grief, distress, or lamentation. It does have a certain biblical ring to it.

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@Martin123 Beautiful. The healing feels like love reuniting. ??

@Ibgdrgnxxv Indeed. I think we’re mostly saying the same thing.

@mandyjw Women, obviously.

@Ibgdrgnxxv You do realize, you’re making judgement up, right? Dogma too? If not...do your diligence, find out exactly, precisely, how there are ‘separate objects’ (in any way). Kinda hard to hold that belief without ‘something’ or ‘someone’ separate to judge.

@Ibgdrgnxxv I feel like I get where you’re coming from, and it’s much like Santa Clause. Kids need parents, and parents can realize need is a belief. Also, consider the linguistic short comings of it. One who verbalizes “I am God” to another, is already missing it. It’s a tough message to get across indeed. More practically and fundamentally, if you can grasp there is no such ‘thing’ as separation, in any way, that really illuminates experience and understanding of it.

Sounds like you’re doing really well, and the sessions are working for you. Always great to hear. On the free will subject, just a ‘two cents’ here, the free will vs not, and the multiple dimensions or timelines, is really about expanding the finite mind to the breakthrough point that it is realized the ‘substance’ of reality ‘itself’ and of the ‘finite mind’ is pure spontaneous infinite being, and that there is no such ‘thing’ as separation in any actual way. That a “physical ‘real’ universe” is not actually possible. That ineffable magic is fundamental to “physical reality”, that you are fundamental to their being an apparent “physical universe”. This realization usually happens in regard to ‘physical separation’, and then ‘your’ mind ‘itself’, as appearance of infinite mind. Contemplations, or maybe perhaps lightheartedly just ‘noticing the obvious’, things like that you have no actual direct experience of being born, nor of “death”, and some lighter videos on quantum mechanics, along with some trips can really ‘blow the doors’ off the place realizations wise. I have a hunch something that might ‘click’ for you might be to watch and feel into the body, noticing the “doing” or “movements”, ordinary day to day stuff is occurring rather magically / spontaneously, without there being any actual possibility of finding a ‘separation’ or ‘connection’ between body & mind. That is, ‘body’, ‘mind’, and ‘will’ are words which point to something but don’t actually describe any actuality as they indication causation, or mechanics. In a way they’re just beliefs indicative of an intellectual science jargon biased society. They infer separation where there isn’t any. You could walk, or wiggle the fingers, and even while talking or listening, just ponder and notice ‘how am I actually, literally, doing that right now’? This brings fourth the realizations that it’s all a play of infinite mind, all for the experience (and imo the fun of it) pure ineffable love and breathtakingly beautiful, total absolute not-knowing-ness. I think realization of meta majestic magical beauty of you, if you will, your inherent eternal un-lose-able, no-need-of-justification or external validation or even stimulation is naturally in order for you. Just this magical mystery of you, of being. Side note, with attention to you, this song is present as if I’m in a enormous amphitheater or something. Just fun, curious if anything comes to mind on that making any sense at all. ???‍♂️. Idk, maybe lost ‘my’ mind.

@Thestarguitarist14 Beautiful. I swear I was ‘there’ for a moment when I read that. Awesome. God’s beauty, psh, forgetaboutit. ? @wolf I tend to agree with what was said on both accounts, and have found meo to be more pure consciousness / love, and psilocybin to be very healing, loving in a wisdom / healing ‘of the person’ or ‘psyche’ sense, vs the ‘directness’ of meo. Mushrooms wise, making tea is better than eating them, and the vapor form can’t be beat. Godspeed, go slow, incrementally. Aliens wise, ime, it’s (no pun intended) a very grey matter. The only thing I feel I could clearly say is experiencing that is about the love. Gotta see past ‘abductions’ and intentions of that kind (no offense anyone) and get to some realizations that if there is a civilization or ‘beings’ that much more advanced that they are able to ‘get here’ and or make contact with us, they’re past the intellectual technologically driven era we seem to be in presently. If you consider how for a person there is the meeting of the needs of living, and beyond a certain income and or lifestyle one begins to see the bigger picture of helping, loving and healing this place is the calling of reality...that’s more the ‘mindset’ through which direct contact ‘ experience occurs. Another way to say that, is a superior intelligence = a deeper knowing of love, and thus would be less interested in cutting out a pancreas or installing microchips etc, than attentive to us not continuing to destroy this planet and killing each other, and the long term effects on the evolution of finite minds these ways incur & perpetuate.

@Corpus ♥️

@preventingdiabetes What do you mean by “the fulfillment”?

@Someone here It is a difficult aspect to articulate communicatively because it is intimate, easily well hidden, and commonly known only of ‘one’s self’ via direct experience. To see another’s intentions kind of requires the ability to actually be the other person and see through the conceptual aspects of ‘others’ existentially. Bit of a ‘broken record’ I know....but the utilization of a dreamboard brings much clarity in terms of the visceral vs cerebral in matters of intention. One see one’s intentions through removing layers of cover stories regarding their own intentions, perhaps merging honesty or sincerity and the portrayal vs actuality of their desires. Something most are not in any hurry to do. Nor does anyone need to, imo.

@Someone here Great thread, more to come I’m sure. I’d first consider the ‘order’ of intention. Is intention prior to arising thoughts, or are arising thoughts prior to intention? It can be a tricky inquiry / inspection. The forum serves as a wonderfully blatant (and innocent) example. When you look at posts, look at the intention. Feel it. Is someone commenting to help someone liberate, to ‘feel better by putting someone else down’, to exercise ‘how much higher conscious’ they are, etc? Do you see the difference in intention behind the communications? If you do, ‘look’ at thoughts in that same lens. When a thought arises, consider, what is the intention and how is it related to this thought, as in, the thought that presently arose.

@Moksha ??

This is the experience of infinity. This is infinity. No people experience infinity, infinity is experiencing being ‘people’. No “thing” becomes nothing, this is not a thing already / no thing / Nothingness. “Thing” is a thought, not an actuality. There isn’t a ‘you’ which ‘merges’ with anything. Infinity is appearing to itself in a manor which seems to make it seem like there is a ‘you’ at the center, which infinity (you) are, as well as the entire appearance which makes it seem like there is a center. “Every lifetime, dimensions, versions, all those lives” are just thoughts. Infinity is the awareness, aware of the “thoughts”, which are infinity appearing to itself.

@zeroISinfinity ?♥️

@Thestarguitarist14 Pearls & swine can be a tough one. Most clarifying and illuminating of the nature of suffering though. I for one will just say thank you for your offering and efforts here.

@arlin That she is your ex reveals she, at one point at least, found you to be attractive. You (anyone) can always be more authentic in your approach. It’s an ongoing experience. But if someone blatantly literally laughs at you for trying to meet and get to know them, that’s on them. Assuming you were being decent and relatively mindful & appropriate about it, laughing at you is a rude thing to do. You didn’t do it, and they have feelings...so why think you should feel based on what someone else says or does? Let them. Honestly, I’d say thanks. Cause that isn’t someone I’d really want to be with, and at least they showed their ‘true colors’ upfront. ‘Ugly’, like beauty, is relative - in the eye of the beholder.

I would consider it is the categorizing as need, when really it’s a want...which is ‘givin you the trouble’. You want to have sex & relationships, so have em! Life is the purpose, not an ideal. Truth is the Truth, not an ideal. Your experience of life, is the only purpose of life. As you’re already experiencing a life, that much is already done. So within living, you can create purpose - what which you most want to experience in this lifetime - and it can and will change in an ongoing manor, in accordance with experience. If currently, sex & a relationship is what you desire, then by all means have sex and a relationship. There are not absolute ‘highest ideals’, and I suspect that the idea that there is didn’t even come from you, but you’re attempting to superimpose it upon yourself, and feeling the resistance of it. You don’t have to do that. You get to choose, and do what you want to do in this life. It’s all relative, always. It’s up to you, always. More existentially...if God didn’t want to experience being a human, God wouldn’t. @arlin Attractive is relative. This might sound funny, or offensive, and I don’t mean it that way...but...it ain’t up to you if you’re attractive, or how attractive you are. That’s a bogus belief.

@Jono From a law of attraction basis, one needing convincing remains one needing convincing. No thing, person, words or substance has got anything on mind. Mind will always ‘win’, even while one is ‘losing’.