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@Vision Why would somebody watch that?

Apart from the dreamboard process, it’s thinking about direct experience. Only direct experience will do. You are of course free to contemplate in all manors you like, and thus directly experience what you’re asking about. You could write the desires on your dreamboard, and find that expression is very clarifying in and of itself. You could also use the dreamboard to ‘untangle’ thinking which is of the subject object relationship. The back is ideal if it’s double sided. Sometimes a completely different perspective arises in seeing thoughts in front of us, so to speak. It can be insightful & liberating.

Non subject object relationship & experience. Thinking about yourself as parts, and or being against desire, or any other ‘parts’ of yourself and experience, or anyone or anything else, is always up to you. In regard to that specific passage, I think you’ll find a realization in spotting the difference between need & want.

@Gesundheit Sure it is. It’s a thought about yourself. Just like “not up to me unfortunately”.

@4201 Focus on what you want. @zeroISinfinity Focus on what you want.

Just let go of that one thought.

No, just in the conventional ‘regular’ sense, acknowledging whatever you are doing, you are doing, because you want to be doing it. If there is something else you want to do, recognizing that you are doing what you want, can be most helpful. Wanting is feeling. Identifying is via beliefs about who one is. Yes. You would be aligning feeling and perspective. There is no need to focus on what you don’t want. Once you know what you don’t want, flip to what you do want. Pause in between. Relax, take big stomach breaths. Excellent. Awareness that those are just thoughts is ample. You can see that they aren’t actually about you, because you are the awareness of, the thoughts. It’s temporary with psychedelics too. So rely on feeling, which is not temporary. Listening to feeling in the first place, rather than claiming & labelling it, is an option. This option is miraculously made new again and again and again and again. Always there for you. No need to focus on how it may have went in a past. No need to identify with that thought. There is no need for “a self”, and there is no need for Bruce forcing anything. The feeling was present and guiding before the meditation was even mentioned (and probably thought about). Totally seems like it. I feel ya. But there is only one at a time. The total “work order” is actually one perspective at a time. The more you align perspectives with feeling like you mentioned, the more feeling it seems there is, and the more there is only one thought / perspective at a time, is clearer.

How does that thought feel? One pointer that can’t be missed, is that when a thought implies it has something to do with a previous thought, it doesn’t. How could it? There is zero evidence or direct experience of this “previous thought”. That’s the current thought. So it isn’t possible that there is a you which has misunderstood all the pointers. There is believing the thought that there is a you which misunderstand all the pointers. ‘Severely’ is a thought about that you. Seems like it feels off because it’s true. Actually feels off because it is not true. Pointing is the only nature of the pointer. Pointing is the only string the pointer has to play on. Let the pointer have it’s one thread of dignity in that it serves us by it’s pointing. Don’t hold the pointer to be understanding, or understood, only pointing. “Another great contemplation imo, if interested, what if everything you’re hearing is fundamentally, wrong? (As not to be confused with intentionally wrong) How, would you even know. “ Not that there is an ‘it’ or a ‘them’ that’s wrong. What if everything you are hearing and have ever heard, all together, is wrong...but not by intention. How would you know? If you are following feeling, and not stepping on it’s toes, but following...then what you are wanting is to jump around a lot and also not be able to specialize and master your craft. If what you are wanting is to not jump around, start with feeling. If what you are wanting is to master your craft, start with feeling. Feeling is consistent, perspectives are not - they don’t need to be, because they go as effortlessly as they come. Feeling is so underlying and consistent, it is the only real reason this is of concern. What is ultimately wanted, is feeling. Feeling is only ever now. If passion and purpose arises, great, no problem. If it fizzles out, it wasn’t your LP, and there is no problem. If something arises more passion and purpose, this is not a problem for anyone filled with passion and purpose. There are no results for you in any spiritual practice. If what’s going on disrupts the sense of what’s going on, then it can’t be said to have actually been the sense of what’s going on. “The mind is a wonderful slave, or a terrible bitch.”

@electroBeam It’s not a why, it’s a how, and it’s ignoring feeling, and going into thinking. Instead, when what you’re hearing simply is not and will not resonate in feeling, stop. Say, oh, this is what nonsense is, and stay with feeling. Don’t take the temptation of judgement, just stay with feeling.

@electroBeam My point wasn’t about sharing on the forum. It was like saying, if you don’t like the burn of the stove (the feeling of which is crystal clear) stop touching the stove. Let the “then don’t touch it” part be as clear as the burn. Flaming sword (placed by God) above the tree of the knowledge (illusory) of good & evil (judgement) is the burn (suffering) of the sword (Truth). Go to the tree of life to which the flaming sword points.

This is you ‘doing the work’, this is it. Feel good about it. I don’t mean think good - I mean feel good about it, and recognize good feeling. There is no such thing as a true perspective. Perspectives are experienced like shoes. They already come & go, and in recognizing that we can just change em willy nilly. Imagine saying “but these are the true pair of shoes!”. Sounds silly, so laugh about it. Consider maybe...why would you ever believe & focus on something that does not resonate? Perspective is no exception. Letting a perspective go is never “letting it slide”. Via the label “procrastination”, and “not letting it slide”, you are already essentially rendering yourself complacent, and you have already been tolerating that (but most noteworthy, not liking how it feels). “Complacent” is not a thought of you, it’s a feeling. When you think “I...am...complacent” you are thinking yourself which doesn’t ‘click’ because you are yourself, judging a “yourself” (as complacent). Not avoiding feeling...or rather just....feeling...feels wonderful, similar to how not avoiding a ton of help, feels helpful. When you find yourself doing one thing, and notice you want to do a different thing - but don’t seem to be - go intuitive, and acknowledge you are doing what you want to be doing. Acknowledging this is empowering yourself. Empowerment is a feeling, not a thought. You’ll soon be doing the other thing you’re wanting to be doing...since you feel like someone who is doing what they want to be doing. RIght on. Choose how you feel over being right, and or any “true” or “truth”. You can think time, but you can never see it, hear it, touch it, taste it, or feel it. There really isn’t even the need to deconstruct a concept. Just noticing it is a concept is ample. Also, maybe owning it, as in, noticing it’s your concept. I’m equally grateful & have the utmost respect for you as well, and I believe the more letting go you do, the less you’ll know & the better you’ll feel, and it’ll be more clearly seen I don’t know anything, sans to pick how I feel over what I think.

Might of took that comment in the opposite way it was intended, and so it seems like a contradiction. There would not be a ‘why’ prior to a ‘reincarnation’. ‘Why’ is a thought. If & when you do contemplate reincarnation, leave electro beam out of it. Electro beam thinks why electro beam & somebody else. (No offense ) If meditation is the answer...meditation is the answer. Meditation is the self which makes up all kinds of dualistic stories apparently, but there are none in meditation, or we could say they are all in meditation, as the infinite potential of any possible story. The ‘bullshit’ could not possibly be more crystal clear. It is the only ‘thing’ which is clear in the place. Contextualize the shit outta it, if you like. Which you don’t like. Which is precisely it’s clarity. How won’t come from the thinking, nor ‘other people concepts’ (which is your concept - if it is) but from the source of “thinking”. Another great contemplation imo, if interested, what if everything you’re hearing is fundamentally, wrong? (As not to be confused with intentionally wrong) How, would you even know.

@randomguy123 Much appreciated, but it was all you. That good feeling is always there in ya.

@Vision Post a video here which is not inherently spiritual bypassing. If you want.

Was all along, and there is no fear.

It’s rather simple in a way. There’s isn’t God. Meditation. Every morning. Also rather simple and effortless. Admittedly not much of a story for someone else there though. Not even for God, let alone two.

Still the dream bruh. ??

Maybe you got what I meant.....If you were both guru’s, and you swapped the entirety of everything each of you do other than the guru’ing. Every last detail, every task, etc. He’s doing literally every thing you typically do each day and vice versa. Would a polarity change such that as guru’s there would be a change from masculine energy to feminine or vice versa?

Just get the nitris and keep saying it’s not workin. You can stretch that 20 to 50 no prob. Jk. Don’t anyone actually do that. What if you both changed / reversed roles / tasks entirely...as far as the op...would masculine / feminine energy shift entirely...as in brain vs role (belief)? (Hypothetically)

?O.M.G. “First?!’....they literally don’t even ask me if I’ve seen something! They just ask me “where’s mom?”. And just now, two minutes before seeing your message I just said “from here on out, I do not know where mom is”. Lol! So true and deep!

Loa ??‍♂️

@mandyjw Oh boy. Sound just like her. Have a two grams of penis envy already and forgetaboutit. Jk!! Jk!!! Jk!!! Maybe I was wrong to think she was stupid. ??‍♂️ Maybe she’s experiencing something I don’t know the first thing about. Well I know the first thing in this case, but...you know.

@seeking_brilliance What synchronicity! (Same time) https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/56147-gender-brain-differences-may-explain-gender-imbalance-in-the-spirituality-community/?do=findComment&comment=748772

@mandyjw I remember when it really dawned that I indeed create reality I went on & on for a hot minute about it to the mrs. (for like months), my wife fired back by pointing at our kids and said “when a fucking human falls out of your vagina after ten months in your gut (she likes pointing out it’s really ten months), you come talk to me about creating reality”. She had her ‘quote fingers’ in the air when she said “create reality”. ? I remember thinking how stupid she was. What kids?! (That can be taken a few ways, isn’t it?)

@Keyhole Spot. On.