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How does that thought feel? One pointer that can’t be missed, is that when a thought implies it has something to do with a previous thought, it doesn’t. How could it? There is zero evidence or direct experience of this “previous thought”. That’s the current thought. So it isn’t possible that there is a you which has misunderstood all the pointers. There is believing the thought that there is a you which misunderstand all the pointers. ‘Severely’ is a thought about that you. Seems like it feels off because it’s true. Actually feels off because it is not true. Pointing is the only nature of the pointer. Pointing is the only string the pointer has to play on. Let the pointer have it’s one thread of dignity in that it serves us by it’s pointing. Don’t hold the pointer to be understanding, or understood, only pointing. “Another great contemplation imo, if interested, what if everything you’re hearing is fundamentally, wrong? (As not to be confused with intentionally wrong) How, would you even know. “ Not that there is an ‘it’ or a ‘them’ that’s wrong. What if everything you are hearing and have ever heard, all together, is wrong...but not by intention. How would you know? If you are following feeling, and not stepping on it’s toes, but following...then what you are wanting is to jump around a lot and also not be able to specialize and master your craft. If what you are wanting is to not jump around, start with feeling. If what you are wanting is to master your craft, start with feeling. Feeling is consistent, perspectives are not - they don’t need to be, because they go as effortlessly as they come. Feeling is so underlying and consistent, it is the only real reason this is of concern. What is ultimately wanted, is feeling. Feeling is only ever now. If passion and purpose arises, great, no problem. If it fizzles out, it wasn’t your LP, and there is no problem. If something arises more passion and purpose, this is not a problem for anyone filled with passion and purpose. There are no results for you in any spiritual practice. If what’s going on disrupts the sense of what’s going on, then it can’t be said to have actually been the sense of what’s going on. “The mind is a wonderful slave, or a terrible bitch.”

@electroBeam It’s not a why, it’s a how, and it’s ignoring feeling, and going into thinking. Instead, when what you’re hearing simply is not and will not resonate in feeling, stop. Say, oh, this is what nonsense is, and stay with feeling. Don’t take the temptation of judgement, just stay with feeling.

@electroBeam My point wasn’t about sharing on the forum. It was like saying, if you don’t like the burn of the stove (the feeling of which is crystal clear) stop touching the stove. Let the “then don’t touch it” part be as clear as the burn. Flaming sword (placed by God) above the tree of the knowledge (illusory) of good & evil (judgement) is the burn (suffering) of the sword (Truth). Go to the tree of life to which the flaming sword points.

This is you ‘doing the work’, this is it. Feel good about it. I don’t mean think good - I mean feel good about it, and recognize good feeling. There is no such thing as a true perspective. Perspectives are experienced like shoes. They already come & go, and in recognizing that we can just change em willy nilly. Imagine saying “but these are the true pair of shoes!”. Sounds silly, so laugh about it. Consider maybe...why would you ever believe & focus on something that does not resonate? Perspective is no exception. Letting a perspective go is never “letting it slide”. Via the label “procrastination”, and “not letting it slide”, you are already essentially rendering yourself complacent, and you have already been tolerating that (but most noteworthy, not liking how it feels). “Complacent” is not a thought of you, it’s a feeling. When you think “I...am...complacent” you are thinking yourself which doesn’t ‘click’ because you are yourself, judging a “yourself” (as complacent). Not avoiding feeling...or rather just....feeling...feels wonderful, similar to how not avoiding a ton of help, feels helpful. When you find yourself doing one thing, and notice you want to do a different thing - but don’t seem to be - go intuitive, and acknowledge you are doing what you want to be doing. Acknowledging this is empowering yourself. Empowerment is a feeling, not a thought. You’ll soon be doing the other thing you’re wanting to be doing...since you feel like someone who is doing what they want to be doing. RIght on. Choose how you feel over being right, and or any “true” or “truth”. You can think time, but you can never see it, hear it, touch it, taste it, or feel it. There really isn’t even the need to deconstruct a concept. Just noticing it is a concept is ample. Also, maybe owning it, as in, noticing it’s your concept. I’m equally grateful & have the utmost respect for you as well, and I believe the more letting go you do, the less you’ll know & the better you’ll feel, and it’ll be more clearly seen I don’t know anything, sans to pick how I feel over what I think.

Might of took that comment in the opposite way it was intended, and so it seems like a contradiction. There would not be a ‘why’ prior to a ‘reincarnation’. ‘Why’ is a thought. If & when you do contemplate reincarnation, leave electro beam out of it. Electro beam thinks why electro beam & somebody else. (No offense ) If meditation is the answer...meditation is the answer. Meditation is the self which makes up all kinds of dualistic stories apparently, but there are none in meditation, or we could say they are all in meditation, as the infinite potential of any possible story. The ‘bullshit’ could not possibly be more crystal clear. It is the only ‘thing’ which is clear in the place. Contextualize the shit outta it, if you like. Which you don’t like. Which is precisely it’s clarity. How won’t come from the thinking, nor ‘other people concepts’ (which is your concept - if it is) but from the source of “thinking”. Another great contemplation imo, if interested, what if everything you’re hearing is fundamentally, wrong? (As not to be confused with intentionally wrong) How, would you even know.

@randomguy123 Much appreciated, but it was all you. That good feeling is always there in ya.

@Vision Post a video here which is not inherently spiritual bypassing. If you want.

Was all along, and there is no fear.

It’s rather simple in a way. There’s isn’t God. Meditation. Every morning. Also rather simple and effortless. Admittedly not much of a story for someone else there though. Not even for God, let alone two.

Still the dream bruh. ??

Maybe you got what I meant.....If you were both guru’s, and you swapped the entirety of everything each of you do other than the guru’ing. Every last detail, every task, etc. He’s doing literally every thing you typically do each day and vice versa. Would a polarity change such that as guru’s there would be a change from masculine energy to feminine or vice versa?

Just get the nitris and keep saying it’s not workin. You can stretch that 20 to 50 no prob. Jk. Don’t anyone actually do that. What if you both changed / reversed roles / tasks entirely...as far as the op...would masculine / feminine energy shift entirely...as in brain vs role (belief)? (Hypothetically)

?O.M.G. “First?!’....they literally don’t even ask me if I’ve seen something! They just ask me “where’s mom?”. And just now, two minutes before seeing your message I just said “from here on out, I do not know where mom is”. Lol! So true and deep!

Loa ??‍♂️

@mandyjw Oh boy. Sound just like her. Have a two grams of penis envy already and forgetaboutit. Jk!! Jk!!! Jk!!! Maybe I was wrong to think she was stupid. ??‍♂️ Maybe she’s experiencing something I don’t know the first thing about. Well I know the first thing in this case, but...you know.

@seeking_brilliance What synchronicity! (Same time) https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/56147-gender-brain-differences-may-explain-gender-imbalance-in-the-spirituality-community/?do=findComment&comment=748772

@mandyjw I remember when it really dawned that I indeed create reality I went on & on for a hot minute about it to the mrs. (for like months), my wife fired back by pointing at our kids and said “when a fucking human falls out of your vagina after ten months in your gut (she likes pointing out it’s really ten months), you come talk to me about creating reality”. She had her ‘quote fingers’ in the air when she said “create reality”. ? I remember thinking how stupid she was. What kids?! (That can be taken a few ways, isn’t it?)

@Keyhole Spot. On.

@Moksha ??

Just a perspective being offered...connotations, opinion, rather than definitions...just a way to look at this, not me trying to tell you how anything ‘actually’ is.... If we can allow “not awake”, to basically amount to, “I don’t like how I feel right now”...then a new way of looking at this, a new way of thinking about this, a new way of feeling about this might arise. A way which does feel good to you, right now, and is productive. If “not awake” is really just saying “I don’t like how I feel right now”....then we can inspect, why - what is it, literally, which does not feel good to you, right now... If your foot is stuck in a bear trap, it’s most definitely that. If your balls are stuck in a car door someone just slammed, it is most definitely that. If there is no physical factor in your immediate environment which can be said to be the obvious source of the ‘not feeling good right now’...then let us consider the culprit might be the perspective...the way you’re looking at experiencing life, which is not resonating (does not feel good right now). If this is the case, or is at least in some way agreeable...then it can only stand to be reasonable, that you must acknowledge this. To feel better, you must acknowledge that the way you’re looking at it currently, is not working, and also does not feel good. Why though, amIright? Why doesn’t the perspective feel good?...is the paramount, pertinent, relevant factor...both in terms of you being productive, and you feeling great right now. Sacrificing how you feel right now, via the perspective that you are doing so - for the sake of how you will feel in the future, is what is not working for you...right now. There are existential explanations about time, where the fuck a self might be, yada yada, but if all that does not amount to you feeling great right f’ing now - then who f’ing cares!? AmIright or amIright? You are learning what ‘letting go’ is. If you don’t like how you feel right now, you must let the present perspective go. Then, you must do something, anything at all that you like - until you feel, better. Then, in your feeling better, you can re-approach the subject - from a different perspective. That different perspective, would be the realization that feeling will never be in a future. I would offer that in this case, “not awake” could be defined as feeling not good now, because you might not be feeling good in the future. If this is the case, this will not work, because feeling is only thought to be in a future, but is actually only now. You, will never actually be ‘in a future’. You are presently, thinking of yourself, as if you were in a future. But it doesn’t feel right, because it is not right. “If I continue putting how I feel second, focusing on the perspective which does not feel good to me, I will not get a thing accomplished”. “I am fully capable of letting a perspective go, and relaxing, and focusing on something else that feels better. I am really getting what crazy guy is saying, when he says relaxation is not a thought, but is feeling. Letting go, when I find I have stumbled into not feeling good, is the only option that works. This is because there is a source of good feeling, and it is ever present - but only now. When I ‘go into the future’, I leave this source of feeling good. Feeling is the present, feeling is not in a future. This whacko of a guy has said this a hundred thousand times but I think I might actually entertain this now because I’m getting that this is how I’m creating my own suffering, and life can be in nirvana if I stick with my source of good feeling. If I don’t leave it, how could I ever experience a moment without it. I wonder if this could be because the only point of this experience, is the experience. Maybe if me & my source are like this ??, I will feel great and be productive.” If I may...”caring” has been hijacked. It won’t work. It already isn’t. It’s dead to you now. Also, it’s still ‘thinking about yourself’. If you were truly thinking of yourself, how you feel would be put first, without exception. I mean maybe if some guy is falling off a cliff or drowning or whatever, but I’m talking about the way one goes about this life thing. Actually letting go, ‘works’. This means actually focusing on something else...feeling good again, getting back to ??. Then....proceed, and kick ass. Again, this is no more than a perspective offered. Some say this is bypassing, some say this is the exact opposite of bypassing, some say what you’ve been doing is bypassing. Who cares. Always up to you, and if I may, your source, or, good feeling. Yourself. ???

This is how you’re recreating the suffering. Awake = there isn’t time, this is infinite being appearing to be consistent. “Care” = feeling. “But I feel about being awake tomorrow, and the day after”. No you actually don’t care / feel that. You THINK you do. Awake = Now = You = Love. Stop pretending you can think feeling. Stop pretending you can be awake anywhere, or anytime. Awake = Now. You can not be other-than you. Now can not be other than now. “Why doesn’t this square peg of thinking fit into this round hole of feeling?” Who cares really. Just stop pounding it. “No matter what, I'll keep backsliding and escaping” That ends with laughing.

@randomguy123 Keep returning focus to big big stomach breaths, with the point being feeling. Feel your entire waste-line expand when you take in a big stomach breath. Feel the breath into the body all the way to the sensations in the bottom of your feet, and all the way up to the top of the head. Thoughts take us all for a ride. All the emotional misunderstanding from our past, from all the suppression we had to do just to psychologically function to be on the same page as the conventional collective survival status quo, is completely false. What a toll this took on you love. Keep letting go by feeling via breath. The breath is no thing, and will excavate the body of misunderstandings. On their way out, ‘they’ll try to rope you in’, again & again & again. Don’t ‘fall for it’, allow feeling, slow the breath to excavate. Don’t hold back what comes up, and yet don’t ‘fall for the thought stories’ of it. Keep relaxing over and over, keep feeling via the breath, over & over. You, complete, in the peace of our being, is the result of letting go. The pressures you innocently internalized are clashing with truth. Forgive them, truly, truly, truly, they do not know. Forgive yourself. You are the pure & innocent, untouchable, un-harmable, love and light of this place. Better days are coming my friend. Better days ahead. ☀️ Every being in your universe sends their love home to you. Just keep letting go, and receiving it. Fill yourself with yourself. ?

‘It’s’ not a state you can get into with psychs or meditation. Hopefully that’s more helpful.

Great share.

In love In Love.