Nahm

@UnbornTao Well said sir. I got nuthin.

What’s the harm in it (if any)?

There’s no you which has satori’s. Knowledge is only an appearance, comes & goes.

“Something is wrong” is not a feeling, it’s thought, concept, perspective.When you believe that thought is the feeling you create the suffering and peace seems distant. It is the peace which lets the thought go.

Story of others, achievement...reinforces the belief you’re separate. Story of you awakening & falling into the illusion is thoughts only. It’s a story about a ‘you’. States, condemnation, psychedelics, sober, temporary states, illusion, fragmented, prison...nobody’s forcing you to retell these stories about yourself. Contemplate why you’re doing this. Be attentive to what you are being inattentive to. ‘Go back’, to the very first step of avoiding feeling. ??

@LfcCharlie4 ‘His’ authenticity & honesty is so pungent you can practically taste it.

Was I apart?

@Free Mind God, no. Just a freed mind.

Reacting would be in kind, name calling, assuming, blaming, writing off, projecting, etc. Responding does not equate to reacting. That is one of the nuances I became aware of in what I shared in the last post. When I slowed down and was honest with my self that those behaviors didn’t feel good, it was readily seen and naturally concluded. Theories can be not believed also. Especially in cases where they don’t feel good. The suffering is in the misunderstanding, misinterpretation, and misidentification. Essentially, thoughts which don’t feel good, but are believed in spite of feeling. The misunderstanding is due to believing assumptions in lieu of direct experience. You’ve not experienced God, so you believe God is separate from you, and like you, can choose to create dualities - suffering - or anything other than or ‘over’ infinite goodness. God never suffers. God does not know suffering. God is only knowing of infinite goodness, because that is all there is. Your suffering is released either by the recognition & relinquishing of presently held assumptions & beliefs, or the direct experience of God. These are actually the same, but as a course of action either would suffice. The misinterpretation persists only in reinstating & affirming it, in spite of how it feels. The trouble with assumptions and beliefs is one believes their belief is true. One then see’s no reason to inspect, because they are already ‘right’, in spite of how being ‘right’ feels. These assumptions are at the most fundamental level, and all experience is tainted as such. It is not easy to see, because it effects the whole of experience. There is never a shortage of how it feels though. Feeling is always decisive & clear. To remain believing the assumption, requires one to avoid feeling. To avoid feeling, is to avoid the goodness, the truth. The misidentification is derived only of thought attachment. The belief you are Redline, a person, a human, form, separate, physical, etc, and that there is a God which is separate of you. Meditation is great for detaching from thoughts & getting some ‘space’ for inspection of thoughts. Inspection is great for releasing beliefs & assumptions which don’t feel good, and realizing truth which feels amazing & inspiring. Writing about feelings clarifies misunderstandings, and understanding arises. Then there can be open mindedness. With open mindedness, a fresh approach can be undertaken to contemplate new perspectives, and ‘listen’ to feeling going forward, as not to create more assumptions & beiefs. Stuff you might contemplate or consider if & when... God doesn’t make choices. There is nothing to choose from. God is unconditional. God forgets God is God, by appearing as Redline. God does not experience suffering, or unconsciousness, because God is infinite consciousness. Death is an assumption, a belief.

@Loving Radiance Formless is meaningless.

@RedLine I can recall reacting to thoughts behaviorally which didn’t feel good. I might have believed it was ‘just how I am’, or personality. I might have believed it was ‘just how it is’, or circumstances. I might have also believed people who didn’t see things my way were just being rhetorical & avoiding my point. I might have even told people who saw things differently than me that they were being dishonest, childish & narcissistic. But I got tired of the stress, tension, frustration, anxiety, depression, etc. I chose to be aware of the thoughts & reactions, to feel it, and not buy into it, not react. Upon slowing down and inspecting, it turned out it was not my personality or circumstances. It was just attachment to thoughts which didn’t resonate, with goodness.

@Loving Radiance Of course formless can be anything because formless.

@RedLine It seems you believe ‘your’ ‘problem’ is ‘out here’ and ‘everyone has it’ and Nahm is ‘avoiding it’. As far as I can see there isn’t actually that problem.

@Farnaby Can formless be vulnerable?

You. It’s still be your relative concept of someone else saying something. It’d still be your implication. This is like receiving Morris code, and rather than slowing down and decoding the message, saying “Morris code”, “Morris code”, “Morris code” over & over, and believing the message was understood & received. Good can’t define good & bad, it has only Good to work with. This is like making a car & a house out of legos, and believing there are legos, cars and houses. (There’s actually still just legos). Good can believe appearances are actual (thoughts) and believe there is then, good & bad. To thoroughly convince itself, it must hold belief it is not itself. To believe it is not itself, requires actively believing it is something else. In the believing of itself to be other than itself, by default ‘the world’ seems other than itself as well. An example of said identity belief is “I am an INPT...my passions...”. From that belief / narration, Truth is something separate, and thus something the a priori ‘you’ looks for. The next belief is that the “you”...operates, or functions (is looking). That belief justifies, or masks the prior belief that the ‘you’ & the world are separate. This doesn’t resonate, but rather than inward inspection, outward projection again masks... “You...this & that....the greatest masters....this & that...they....this & that”. (“Morris code”, “Morris code”, “Morris code”.) This is an interpretation being projected in the same manor. An outward movement faster than is recognized, and thus believed. Meditation slows this down, and it is seen. This is another interpretation & projection. Jesus didn’t say he sacrificed himself. He was crucified for speaking the Truth (so to speak), like you are doing to Leo.

It’s a loop perpetuated by misinterpreting self doubt as a feeling.

@Yarco Panties with the actualized logo and instructions printed on them...?

Yes, of course. Does that make you X?

If there is a problem and a present moment, there is self deception, the deception is there is a self experiencing. Self deception is not stoppable. Introspection reveals the perpetual creating of the deception, or, thought attachment.

Infinite can not know finite.

When it is realized we react emotionally to thoughts, and instead we take pause, we are emotionally present in spirit you might say. Available, not hiding behind the armor. This brings depth to the experience of the relationship or interaction. ‘Vulnerable’ would be swinging the pendulum a bit to far. It’s actually opposite. True power, unfettered freedom of expression of the true nature.

@Frenk “States” is a dualistic thought. This state, and that state. ‘Put a state in each hand’ and compare them. Notice, there’s nothing there. Now notice it’s exactly the same for ‘the thought’. There’s is only the apparent, or, illusion of, a comparison. Such is ‘good & bad’, and preferences of. Notice the ‘trap’ of believing the thought that a you is comparing good, bad, preferable, and ordinary states. Notice the actuality, these are thoughts appearing and disappearing, being believed (if so), keeping a narrative going that this is ‘the ordinary state’, or, ‘the mystical state’, or, ‘the low or high consciousness state’, etc, etc.

@JayG84 No. ‘Your phone’ is absolutely infinite being. There is no such things as a screen, language, or words. This is literally infinite being, appearing as, thought to be, a “consistent physical reality”. The nature of infinity has nothing to do with numbers, math, or any thinking at all. Thinking is illusory. You can break your phone down to the thought “phone”, thoughtless perception, and the feeling or sensation of it ‘in your hand’. The thought ‘phone’ is a sound, a vibration, mistaken to be a ‘word’ & ‘meaning’ that was learned and is reapplied when the sound (‘word’) ‘phone’ is heard, via the illusion of self & memory. The thought ‘phone’ is pure magic, appearing from nowhere and disappearing into nothingness, just like ‘perception’ is a vibration, a ‘word’, learned & meaning reapplied, which in actuality appears from nowhere and disappears into nothingness as well. There is no such things as words or perception. Even the experience of the sensation of the touching of the phone is that of electricity, ‘electrons’, ‘fields’, vibration, and never actually a ‘skin’ touching a ‘plastic’. There is, in the most literal sense, nothing. And there is not.

Unmistakable, unthinkable, unbelievable, unimaginable, un-experiencable, and astoundingly intimately ineffable. “Consciousness”, “awake”, “Truth”, “states”, “levels”, “degrees”, as well as “relativity” lose all apparent meaning. That ‘huge breakthrough’ is the ‘direct experience of infinity’ but it is not a ‘breakthrough’ a you surpasses, nor is it direct, an experience, or infinity.

@AlwaysJoggin