Nahm

Not “some people’s beliefs”...your beliefs.

Are you saying you fear a thought............about something...? Even in the recognition there isn’t that something...just the thought...? There was a monk long ago who heard a heavy urgent pounding on the front door of the monetary. He listened through the door and heard a man say “let me in!! I want to know this peace!!”. And the monk said through the door, “if we let you in, there won’t be this peace!” A few years ago I went to an exorcism. I wanted to see for myself. I knocked on the door and said “let me in! I wanna see this exorcism”. To which someone replied, “if we let you in there won’t be an exorcism!”. Sneaky people in there apparently. ?? It’s really about the letting go, the presence. Can’t see it in a video. ??

@levani By questioning if the fear is in regard to direct experience, or a thought. (It wasn’t an analogy.) Daily meditation...thoughts come & go. Awareness is aware of this, but is not acting, reacting, thinking, planning, questioning, etc, etc, etc. Thoughts are more seen through, or recognized as ‘just thoughts’. The spaciousness the thoughts arise in is then more pronounced, more present / presence / peace. The mind isn’t running the show as much. The thought of demons & exorcisms comes & goes. The set up is recognized, that the thoughts were believed. The punchline is felt, that it was just thoughts. Those thoughts arise on the trip, and there is much laughter. Yes. Good call. ? Meditation. ??

@abrakamowse Check and see.

It’s objectively funny. Laughter is the best medicine. Essentially innocently unchecked ‘beliefs’.

@levani I would address the thoughts & beliefs which don’t feel good about the demons & exorcisms, rather than make any attempt to correct or suppress with psychedelics, and consider then suppressing the effects of the psychedelic with something like an adrenaline shot. (Imo) the aligned mindset with the anticipated effect of a psychedelic is letting go. You are currently holding tight. Daily morning meditation addresses the thought attachment and brings much clarity to experience. ‘Real’ letting go is discovered, very very very important ‘tool’ for a trip. You can do this with psychedelics, but it (just in my opinion) would be tripping without a proper foundation, which can be a discouraging & frustrating experience.

Meditation to achieve is the monkey mind. It’s a veiled attempt to waste years, maybe decades of your life, which is not possible. They see the waves, without seeing at all. They listen to them, without hearing. They buy in grosse, never feeling.

Love ya, but you are not readily for tripping. Just opinion.

You & your infinite sneakery. Never ends! Lol The Godless sleep. ??

@Chives99 ??

There’s no facts, no one to be ignorant of them. Apparently it is intention ignored. ‘Because’ it’s exactly as it appears. Be cause it’s appearance. Already is so. Who, what, where, when, wh-I.

If there were finite within infinite, there’d be no infinite. Infinite does not know finite. It isn’t.

@happyone It’s not your fault.

You are the one which is not thinking.

Infinite can not know finite. Truth is too good to be true.

@allislove

Having a completely quiet mind is not having a completely quiet mind.

“Separation never occurred”. ACIM ”Body” is not ‘this thing that is alive’. ‘Body’ is a thought

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@electroBeam I meant that agreeably. It does boil down to that. The clearly is literally the clarity. ‘Cheers’.

Clearly. ?

@captaind (Also) Directly inspect the belief there is a separate you / that you are separate. Use the full extent of the intellect.

@Javfly33 ? When it’s noticed there is thinking of you, thinking in two...bring conviction to taking a stand as you, as presence. As the presence that is you, and is actual. Not thoughts about it.

@EmptyVase Thank you!

@levani Awesome. I’d skinny those memories/feelings down to a word or two each, and write em on the dreamboard. All the stuff you write adds up & comes into focus, and those ‘underlying layers’ kind of pop as dots connect. Inspiring ideas will come to mind from connecting with those memories/feelings.