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@Aaron p A ‘piggy back’ insight...every person also “represents” or “exemplifies” a facet of your own true nature to be more readily seen / revealed / known / recognized.

Prior to and appearing as understanding.

It would be wise to prepare for such a flood with meditation, to be the Noah of the true nature.

@Moksha I’m dyin over here!!!

@Moksha Very, very funny indeed.

@Moksha I agree, I think we’re already on the same page. I see knowledge like any other thought, in that I’m just renting it really. It’s all ours / no one’s. Personally, I found the thought attachment, the claiming of the knowledge and identifying with it to be the suffering relative to the body mind. The knowledge in and of itself so to speak, of and in this world, is most beneficial for us and this world. And what an articulate quote! I think musicians are generally living in a certain surrendered recognition of these things from living / working in vibration, truth. They always seem to have that ‘inside scoop’ to what’s in the news. White Americans, what, nothin' better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out - you're an immigrant too! Who's usin' who, what should we do? Well you can't be a pimp and a prostitute too! (Jack White of The White Stripes)

@Tim R In staying with the biblical reference...to judge is to eat from the tree of the knowledge of “good & evil”. Seems we are all free to do that, yet to do so is often to create emotions in discord with the true nature, or ‘substance’ of the body mind, and of creation at large. So God hung a flaming sword on that tree, pointing to the tree of life. The “flaming” is the burn of suffering. The “sword” is The Truth. It is in us, and it is always pointing the way of creation, which perpetuates via humans experiencing and exercising preferences. To loath in judgement, to dwell in unwanted, does not create anything but suffering. To ‘go to the tree of life’, is to recognize what is, what is not wanted, or, not preferred, and in that recognition is found, intrinsically, what is wanted, what is preferred. Preference is realized. In that recognition, in that way of life our infinitude is alive and real, and we are filled with presence and Well Being as creators. We might say God has bestowed us with that which is not of this world, focus. The covenant is the recognition infinite can not know finite, and as such it is left to each of us in our freedom to experience creation, to focus in alignment with our source. This the greatest joy imo. This is what Joy is imo. Creator-creation-creating. Closing that “gap” of the covenant. Personally speaking, I abide in, or listen to the true nature of this message alive within me, and I do not dwell or loath. I experience pain, but I do not create suffering. Of course, this is effortless for me, because somehow, and don’t ask me to explain it, I yet again woke up this morning. This just seems to keep happening. I keep getting another day to align and share this nature some how. Very mysterious & magical. Your thread brought this oldie but goodie to mind... ”Oh life. It’s bigger, bigger than you, and you are not me. The lengths that I will go to, the distance in your eyes. Oh no, I’ve said too much. I set it up.” I often suspect this is all some kind of dream or lucid rem sleep too. Dunno. Always somewhere between “saying too much” and “haven’t said enough”.

@Tim R ?? Easy to appreciate in this experience. I spent years in the denial & delusion of this truth you so clearly speak of. I often wonder, and sometimes say, the entire Bible aims only to the recognition of how deep the error of judgment in & of “itself” can appear to be. Even Jesus was iconically put on a pedestal in spite of the very message he spoke of.

Very kind, much appreciated. ?? The finite mind is a lens of creation for our infinite being. Through it, infinite intelligence appears as one finite thought at a ‘time’. Boundless potentiality appears as concepts, limitless imagination appears as images. This makes the experience of communicating, creating, togetherness and the beauty & divinity of communion possible. This makes it possible to imagine, conceive and create that which we imagine, and to even do so together. The finite mind can wander in it’s own content, creating the false experience of leaving now, by giving to much focus to thoughts of a “past” or “future”. But feeling is ever present now, and the mind can abide in this feeling, in the compass of the heart. Feeling will never be in a past or future, and it is suffering to believe it could be, or to prolong any worry for it. But feeling is always here for you now. Always. Eternally. Unconditionally guiding you in your creating. This can be particularly perplexing in our youth. The ticket to ‘getting into’ this place is forgetting our own infinitude, forgoing the inherent knowing of who we really are, so that one can experience. As an intrinsically gifted infinite creator, you create effortlessly, and thus innocently weave (create) an idea of “who” you are. What resonates of that idea illuminates the facets of your true nature, what is felt as discord reveals conditioning, and the false identifications. The experience of your creation and the idea of a ‘my’ identity can seem so real in it’s separateness, that an unfortunate ‘claiming’ of this infinite potentiality occurs. Worries of ‘my’ potential. This suffering can only persist in the ignoring of discord between thoughts and feeling. A “worry” of “my potential”, or a “fear” for “my future”, is actually the very calling of intuition, the visceral echo of Home, of Truth, through the finite body mind. One never faces death, only the shedding of this identity, this idea, for the real.

? Crazy, crazy, does, does, does is crazy. Crazy make up for adjustment. Just like you, you jammin' on the verse. First one's planned, that you want to do. All I want is But I don't need you. (everybody gotta say) All I want is But I don't need you. Reggie Watts, “I just want to”, theme of the Key & Peel show. “Three things can not be long hidden, the sun, the moon, and the Truth”. Buddha

Is it getting better, or do you feel the same? Will it make it easier on you, now you got someone to blame? You say “one love, one life, when it's one need in the night. One love, and we get to share it. Leaves you baby if you don't care for it”. Did I disappoint you or leave a bad taste in your mouth? You act like you never had love and you want me to go without. Well, it's too late tonight to drag the past out into the light. We're one, but we're not the same. We get to carry each other, carry each other. One. Have you come here for forgiveness? Have you come to raise the dead? Have you come here to play Jesus to the lepers in your head? Did I ask too much, more than a lot? You gave me Nothing, now it's all I got. We're One, but we're not the same. Well, we hurt each other, then we do it again. You say love is a temple, love’s a higher law, Love is a temple, Love’s the higher law. You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl, and I can't be holding on to what you got, when all you got is hurt. One love, One blood, One life, you got to do what you should. One life with each other: sisters, brothers. One life, but we're not the same. We get to carry each other. Carry each other. One. You too.

Not to ‘pick on you’, but why stop the inspection at ‘terrifying’? This is like shopping restaurants and eating at the one that sucks for you. The relating you really want is with the source within you. Listen to it. It’s not excluding, and it never blames or attributes the feeling of discord to another as the source of it. It’s quite inclusive, non-judgmental, and ever-loving. If you are experiencing “sucked into mainstream society”, it’s as simple as you are still sucked into it. This is your thinking, not “theirs”. Own it to inspect it to see through it & release it, and feel how you much more truly want to feel. Attune more deeply & acutely in feeling than settling for ‘fear’ as well. If a thought doesn’t feel aligned to you, you don’t have to dine on it. Feel around a bit. Maybe the path is of relating by expanding your understanding and compassion, while not attaching to thoughts about others which don’t resonate with you. No one else has any hand in wether you’re attaching & identifying with thoughts or not. They have their whole gig going, you have yours. Feel your way to the best of both worlds. This is the orientation of ostracizing & isolating yourself. Unchecked, it can lead to nihilism and or solipsism, making your path exponentially more difficult than need be in the much longer term. If you don’t like liver, give it no mind ?. The buffet of this place is far bigger than this. You’ll never truly empower yourself in the focusing on and believing of thoughts oriented in empowering yourself by disempowering others. See their very best, set your own bar, and you will live, be, and feel your very best, free of these mental fetters. @Shunyata You are special. EVERY ONE is special. Existence is profoundly special. Earth is inexplicably special. We are walking talking impossible miracles, One, yet no two the same. When you align within you shine of within, and you self recognize creation.

@Muhammad Jawad @flume Interesting. I’ll look up that video. Thank you’s!

There is a paradox you’ve got to appreciate from a place of being lighthearted & humble in regard to what you’re thinking about, even though you can not understand what that paradox is right now. The more you focus on thinking about death, or existential thoughts, the more you’re heading to stress, if not already. The paradox is that you can’t “figure this stuff out” by thinking because that’s always just more thoughts. Your true nature, what “death” really is, is the right-now-awareness of the thoughts. Awareness is veiled by the very thoughts. More thinking equals more veiling, not more self realization. It’s like a flashlight looking for itself in the light on the wall, it’ll never “find” it, it has to realize what it is by not believing it will be found on the wall. When you adopt a practice like daily meditation you are slowly over time letting go of the attachment to thoughts, and your true nature automatically ‘rises’, as expression and conditioning empties from the body mind. If you are in a hurry to self realize, to know truth, and you are feeling any resistance of that hurry, do yourself the self loving favor and listen to that resistance, and slow down.

@Nate0068 Sounds rough, sendin good vibes your way. If it’s helpful or useful information...too much focus on conceptual & existential thinking for too long without a foundation of some body / awareness grounding practice, and some emotional expression, can lead to skewing everything perspectively for the worse. I wish you well, and the difficulty of this will pass. Do your best not to ‘dig in’, keep letting go. Relax into the body as much as you can, let thinking & concerns go. Take the day off from any ‘figuring out’, or ‘future ruminating’. Maybe a few days. Take a day or so off of any screens etc. You’ll feel better naturally, by default. Amazing but true. You’ll have a lot of insights from this when this passes. Just keep letting any troublesome thoughts go, you’ll feel better soon. Take grounding, body awareness to be first, most paramount on the path & in life in general, and you’ll be feeling better, much better perspectives will return, and the path & your future will be of joy. If that sounds impossible at all, please take my word for it to whatever extent you can. It is not only possible, it is your future and this is a part of it. When people say ‘life is amazing’, etc, etc...be most careful not to deflect that onto them, like ‘they’re just like that and I’m just not like that’. Let that message in a bit. Those people made it through rough stuff too, and the miracle is how life is beyond these challenges. Here that message. Gotta let thoughts that don’t resonate go - swiftly. Gotta be grounded in feeling. Rough to learn this way so young but you gotta know this to recognize these things do work. It’s not as tall of an order as it might seem today either. A little bit each day, and you feel better each day. And you got all of us here to help. Express, let anything you want to out. ? Also, on the dad / work front, I can really relate. My dad was very similar. What I learned in going through it was that the initial ‘sting’ I was feeling was the conditioning of this I unknowingly adapted, resonating when around him. Took a minute to humble down to recognizing that. I also was triggered by specific things he’d say in regard to work, stress, etc. In recognizing that, I was able to catch my reactions, and from conscious stomach breathing, slow down and take time to process the emotion. At first I’d not say anything, just basically looked at my ‘inner mess’ transpiring. Then it became less intense, and I could respond without it being influenced by the reaction. After a while it ‘flipped’, to where I recognized the trigger situation, and felt delight in noticing the emotional reaction was no longer there. Then I felt a lot of appreciation and compassion for him. Pain does reveal Beauty. In hindsight it was clear that’s how he interprets and experiences the world, and many insights as to how & why that is filled in. Here’s some meditations to consider if & when. Really, just reading them can bring about a pleasant change in mindset and outlook.

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This is happening in my experience, not a lot, but not rare. Not with countries, just buildings and houses. If you happen to have any insight arise in this regard please share. Appreciate it, thanks!

Pick a better feeling thought about it. Try to refrain from judging feeling. Let a thought in discord with feeling go instead. The thought doesn’t resonate. Don’t accept thoughts that don’t resonate. Choose a better feeling perspective. That is what is meant by “on the path”. If there is resistance to willingly, swiftly letting a discord thought go...now you know what is meant by “ego”.

I”m gonna be a stickler and go a layer deeper cause I’m respecting the hell outta your intention and integrity in inspecting ... You don’t need. Period. Recognize the true freedom in that, accept, feel, recognize - you want. You have experienced, you have preferences. Let others have theirs so you may more clearly know yours. Desire is not a thought, and it is an infinite bottomless well of visceral inspiration. Sure, that’s great. Truly, (down the road perhaps but hopefully some realization right now) there is no need for a silver lining. There is no problem. There is the experience of me saying there’s a problem, and me feeling the discord of my own assessment. It’s a real energy drainer because it ‘leaves’ truth, source, unconditional love, the creator of all you desire to create. Everything is only ever working out for you. Let judgments and expectations go for the real thing, for actuality, for what is now and right in front of you. Even death is a joke. Appreciate, contemplate, what an infinite sense of humor could be. Careful not to underestimate that, and how funny you are. It deflates tension, stress, blame, etc. Laugh at yourself on the daily. Be silly. Keep loose. Be mindful what that does for focus. Write down the smallest step and take it right now. Notice that feeling amazing is being on the path you desire, and is not a product of accomplishments. A single step is all it takes. Recognize so much ruminating, understand it is the cover story for avoiding feeling. Cry, and feel God’s presence. You let go, God fills in. God don’t care about your accomplishments, but God is loving you and supporting you no matter what. (Imo). You. Can’t. Lose. Proceed. Too much conceptualizing. YOu get one thought at a time and you feel it’s alignment or discord. That’s it. Only surfaces. Nothing more. Allow this to point to the ineffable value of daily morning meditation. If you don’t have the time or patience to meditate once a day, meditate twice a day. Nailed it. Release it. That is transcendence.

@Nani In your corner man, you got this. ?? Free will and determinism are just thoughts btw. Try to feel em, try to point to them in perception. Just thoughts. Reality is made of spontaneity. Thoughts are made of reality. There is only this present appearance as it is. No past, no future, no time. It’s only the surface you see right now, and nothing more.

One way to rephrase that....If I stop listening to thoughts, believing there is separation, humans, etc...if I stop comparing and measuring what is actaual with my thoughts...what was that question about again, I forgot already.

You are likely justifiably thinking in terms of coping as a reaction to the behaviors of other people. That is a totally valid experience, but it is not the only way of experiencing. You can’t really be expected to know this already, but it can be discovered that you’re coping with your own perspective which isn’t resonating with you. It’s a game of balancing one’s own unseen un-inspect counterbalancing, and unchecked that could go on for a while. This changes the game in that it repositions you in regard to what and how you’re focusing, as compared to what you’re thinking about and how you’re thinking. You might think in terms of emotional responsibility vs assigning causes of how you feel to other people. That is a certain handing over of your God given empowerment. As an example, there are millions of people experiencing just like you, and there are a handful that will consciously choose what they focus on, create companies online, talk with people & connect online, etc, and that creates the life worth living, the one you came here for, the one that makes sense of this whole place, the one which is the dream in your heart you brought with ya. In letting them be them, you’re giving yourself permission to be you, and if there’s one thing we could all use more of round here, it’s more of that authentic you. Got to be you. Get to be you. The present. The game is already afoot. This is it. Dial into yourself deeper. Let that surface stuff go. (And it’s all surface stuff). Know what motivates and inspires you. Get it in front of you. Paint your environment with that. Focus on that. Let everyone else be everyone else, by acknowledging the reality that they are. That’s precious focus you’re spending. It has an expiration date. Make a dreamboard. Know what you honestly, actually, want. Feel why you want it. (Way, way, way prior to what you’ve already mentioned here). Imagine it is already effortlessly the actuality. Let go of all the conditioning that arises. Let it up and out. It’s a crazy twist which must be directly experienced...but you’re exactly like your parents, conditioning wise. The views you are bothered by in them, are actually yours. That’s what bothered you, not someone else. They’re just teaching you this by being them. Perspectives, beliefs, conditions, resonate like a guitar string in proximity to a struck tuning fork. You can inspect them and release them, and you’ll see for yourself that vibrational resonating doesn’t occur anymore. It is instead met with your being. With love, peace, compassion. A connotation of authenticity is not allowing myself to blame...and instead expressing evermore genuinely, until I strike the gold of the grail. If it’s helpful...stop accepting ruminating, stop accepting a lack of appreciation in your heart. Stop accepting waiting for understanding.

What is the value of self respect? How fundamental is it as a lens of the whole of experience? What is the worth of one’s relationship in real time, alive & feeling, with our source? What do you think people want? What do you actually want? What do people actually want?

@zeroISinfinity “What’s with all this trying to understand each other?” - Love

It can be helpful to acknowledge to yourself that you feel the resonance of your thoughts, and she feels hers. It’s not as grey as it appears. You can not stress enough to relax someone, you can not get inspired enough to motivate someone, you can not get consciousness enough that someone else realizes anything. But you can be an example by living the life most authentic to you. And you can drop your narrative if you want, buy her some flowers and thank her for loving you and caring for you, in her way, the actual way, not your idea of a better way that isn’t actual.