Nahm

You & reaction is already duality. Reaction isn’t natural, it’s a causal semblance. You can not be a thought (unreal) which you are experiencing. Seeking is not believing, it is inspecting what is actual. The illusion of the separation, or separate self is already apparent. No, that is another duality. “It” & true, you & nothing. Likewise, you & states, someone & not doing or not getting, someone becoming aware. The dualities, and imo, most respectfully and relevantly, the suffering, is already the case.

@zeroISinfinity It sounds like you’ve got a dream paradigm that could be seen through. In the sense, if the beard of dream is shaved, being is the clean face.

It’s always what we claim to know that shoots our foot. The knower can never see what the knowing claims to know. Before you concern yourself with the splinter in the other’s eye, remove the board from your own eye. That is, you believe it’s because of someone else that you feel that way, because you aren’t inspecting your own beliefs / judgement / conditions. The miracle of doing the work of inspection, is unconditional love & unconditional happiness is uncovered. Every single moment of your life from that point on is literally blissful and pure magic. This can not be communicated, you’ve got to directly experience this. How long are you willing to make your list of what you must avoid so you can be happy? Two conditions, three, twenty, hundreds? Those are your conditions. This is what is referred to on the path as conditioning. It’s what we let go of. Not what we use to reinforce our own suffering. Religion, and or spirituality, often refers to this as judgement. Psychology refers to this as deflection & projection. Divorce lawyers & therapists just call it income. How ever you slice it up, you’re in control. You can choose love, and emotional equanimity. ? No you can not, because you are already “there”. You’ve only actually ever been there...and you are creating conditions upon “there”, which is to say, your own love & happiness.

?? @Eren Eeager There aren’t “separate selves”, and stories about individual selves therefore will not do. There is reincarnation, but it can not be explained. Only self realization will do.

@Snt_lk Other people are as real as you are. There is no “concept of nonduality”. That would be two. Nonduality is not-two. (Non-dual)

There really actually is no “separate self”. There are just thoughts about.

@traveler And now I am infected as well. ??

@The Buddha

@Chris365 It’s fine, he’s got a hell of a sense of humor. Infinite, they say. @charlie cho Worst thread hijack in a while. Carried away and my apologies. Hopefully a trinity of laughs for you sir.

@Dark_White ??

@Bazooka Jesus Nailed it.

@Bazooka Jesus Only the Good die young. @Mason Riggle ?

@Dark_White The emotional scale. Beautiful work my friend. Really nice. I definitely had similar moments, still do and still will, and I’ve learned to drop it on a dime (release it) and have talked with many who have as well. I’d frame this up as contemplation in this regard is like diving down into the depth of clarity. This releases emotions, and that is the desired effect. As emotions clears out, unconditional, formless, clarity remains. Along the way, thought tends to ‘hijack’. Spot the self referential thinking, that is, thoughts about yourself that don't feel good to you...that is the ‘red flag’ to release. Thought labels, such as with the thought “objects”, and it can definitely seem like you’re ‘stuck’ there. Also notice thought labels it’s own source, such as with “I am really impatient person”, and “I like to get things fast”, “I lack”, or “I’m dealing with”. The concepts got you thinkin, which is great, and it tapped intuition, which is fucking awesome, and that is bring emotion up & out which is the ideal. Now, help em out by expressing slowly, loving, up the scale. Allow the identity misunderstandings to release, and self realization, seeing the “objects” are nothing, naturally follows. Sounds like you’re experiencing doubt, disappointment, irritation and frustration....so check out the scale, and express how this sometimes leaves you feeling and thinking pessimistically about your future. Then express ...sometimes boredom is experience...and so on. If those thoughts were true about you...”I’m impatient”, “I lack”, etc...they’d feel like orgasmic liquid love oozing through the body mind.

@Jodo ...puts...self...back in chair...

@Bazooka Jesus You set this whole gig up so proper, even you don’t know! So well done sir, soo well done. ? An sorry bout the crossy thingy. We didn’t know either.

@traveler Express jealousy, crazy as it may sound. It brings alignment to desire, focus, and wanted, and it brings whatever’s ’off’ to the surface, into the light to be burned away. Open the flood gates, release it, Big Love is behind whatever it is, and emotions can be so counter intuitive. Always appreciating what you share btw, and wishing you the absolute best. ??

That is why you’re suffering. You can not heal attachment from a previous relationship, because that is not actually something happening. It seems like how you feel, and the shaking, is because of the past relationship. Yet, have a look around the room, is that person / that relationship there? Are you experiencing that relationship? Of course you are not experiencing that person / relationship right now, obviously, but you have to actually stop and notice that you believe you are. You’re looking to heal attachment from it - but you’re not experiencing it. Look around again, notice, you’re not attached to the relationship at all. You are experiencing thoughts about the relationship, which you’ve been ruminating about for a year too long. Time to look at your direct experience and stop recreating this suffering. Use the emotional scale to express and release, and you will see how it seemed like the experience now is about the relationship in the past, but actually isn’t. It’s about the way you’re thinkin now. You’ll feel so much relief it’ll change the course of your life in a very significant and positive way. It’s also going to spill over via helping someone else, who ends up being very key to your financial success, with a venture you haven’t even thought of yet. You’ll see. I am not dogmatic, religious of Christian, but this quote comes to mind in regard to what you have going on.... “I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring I have tended.” - Jesus This was said to those in his presence, namely disciples, who become intoxicated with love, and attributed to him. They actually believed that the love they felt, the very own feeling, was somehow coming from him, as if he didn’t have feelings or something, I don’t know. He is telling them to realize the ‘spring’ of love is within them, that they love they were drunk on was not coming from him...nor from any relationship.

@Shunyata Just been there before. ?? Dreamboard.

@Dlavjr The trap you’re experiencing is judgment, but you believe it’s perfectionism because you’re identified with it, you believe “you’re a perfectionist”. This is a logical misidentification, because you are a perfect being. In expressing more that you are a seeker, you won’t have any ‘perfectionist issue’ anymore at all, nor would there be the judgment, nor would you keep saying it with misplaced pride and reinforcing it. This will save you so much tension & time, and you will be so much the better composer for it. The potential trap is suppressed emotions. You’re not experiencing this now but you will be this year. Use the emotional scale, learn it now, beforehand, it becomes like riding a bike. It will save you immeasurable suffering, tons of stupid-tax, and prevent what would otherwise have been minor but frustrating set backs, and which otherwise would have been interpreted as having little to nothing to do with you. Understanding the scale, you’ll understand exactly what it has to do with you, and that will be the key to your success which your audience will neither comprehend nor be able to get enough of. Your music will be heard and appreciated by a lot of people. Like, a lot. What’s in question is how good of a time you’ll have. Take some pictures of yourself at this college, and in the earliest stages of composing, you will be super glad you did.

@Shunyata The third most fundamental aspect you’ve got going on is shame, unworthiness, and general confusion which is experienced as a lack of clarity, focus & direction. These are nothing to feel bad about or worry about. These can be expressed as well as understood. The second most fundamental aspect is holding onto beliefs that don’t feel good to you, rather than talking to someone, expressing, and or understanding. Much distraction is being employed in the daytime to remain in this discordance with yourself. In the day this is playing out as a sort of grand scheme of duality, something like ‘black vs white’, or ‘light vs dark’, or maybe ‘angels vs demons’. In the dreams this intensifies, from emotional suppression during the day (the beliefs, and the distractions) such as with ‘monsters of the dark side’, and ‘saviors of the light side’. Fantasy characters, as well as people you know from throughout your life are interwoven in the dream, also as ‘hero’s’ or ‘villains’. I’d guess the closer a person is to you in life, the more they are on the ‘hero’ side of things in the dream. That is a ‘cling’ to our hero’s also playing out in the dream, and is due to the vibrational ‘place’ of those emotions. The most fundamental aspect of what you have going is desire, in a Maslow pyramid sense, though you may or may not connect those dots. Make a dreamboard if you haven’t, and reinvent honesty and transparency. Throw out whatever you think those are and start anew.

There is much humor to appreciate, but it’s not radical, it’s subtle. Like how the focus is on the illusion of the individual, not on a nonexistent individual in a dream or dreaming. In the same sense there is nothing here for an illusion of an individual to understand, nothing which could be understood. I could see where that might be intense but an illusion can’t be gotten rid of, like a mirage in a desert can’t be gotten rid of.

@AtheisticNonduality ? Alrighty then. Much love my man.

@AtheisticNonduality So....ahhh....not exactly a ‘me’ here....being ahhh...’nonsensical’....per se. ? ?

@AtheisticNonduality That quote make sense to you?

"When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom." Jesus