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Truth isn’t a problem. Far from it.

I’d say relaxed is about the same as contentment. Continuing on up the scale is up to you. Adding the duality of spiritual and un-spiritual emotion is unnecessary.

@Flowerfaeiry Body & need are thoughts. There’s nobody to poo poo no body.

What is your condition? As in... if I had X, if I was X, if X hadn’t happened, if X would happen, if someone would help me with X, if I realized X, if everyone else would just X, etc. What has to happen, what has to change, for you to be at peace, happy?

You think you do, but if you inspect a bit, you’ll notice you actually don’t. You are yourself. What this is really about, wether acknowledged now or later, is thought attachment and emotional suppression (intense spiritual bypassing). Might sound abrasive admittedly, but might save you years of suffering when you could be creating the life which is the dream within you too. Try to point to where it’s coming from. Wish you the best in any case. If souls, demons, etc is your thing per se, Godspeed brother.

There isn’t even an other side of that wall.

@ThaOreoBoros Other than human imaginings, like books and movies, what is your direct experience of demons? This is probably a much better opportunity to question & inspect direct experience vs abstractions of thought. There aren’t individual entities at all, human, demon, elves, you, me, or otherwise.

@fopylo Look at the scale, and start with the emotion you are currently experiencing. No need to “push thoughts aside”. Just refocus on breath. Don’t expect “effects”. Ecstasy isn’t uncomfortable. Overwhelming is on the scale. Start there.

Beautiful! Welcome to the forum. ??

It’s why you call suffering, suffering. If the true nature weren’t happiness, you won’t feel the discord with it. Explanation won’t do for what is prior, simple, obvious, self inherent. Not. Two. “I” is a thought. How could a thought suffer? Pain is of creation, creation is made of being, pain is love. Suffering is of identification, thoughts, ‘with’ the finite mind. Right. To “you”. Which is not a you, but is a thought. Can’t suggest enough, a deep dive into the work of Rupert Spira. Nothing exists - it’s literally up to you. I am it, and can not define myself. At Godspeed (slow). Inspect what you’re saying, what you’re actually talking about. What is “end”, what is “it”, what does “permanent” mean? More, much more importantly - who gets to tell you what’s possible? Why would you listen.

Really question that “achieve” approach / perspective. The thought inherently implies true genuine happiness is not already your true nature, and that there is a you and an it, such that you could obtain it. There is no implication otherwise, of a denial of suffering and pain. This is not a cup -> ☕️. “Cup” is a thought... not perception. The thought “perception” can be peeled away as well. Google, research what Siddhartha had to say about the distinction between pain & suffering. The former is of this place, to a large but not absolute degree, and the latter... one makes up on the fly (thought attachment to ‘me’, ‘my’, ‘mine’ narration) mistaking thoughts for perception, and thus one’s self (so to speak) for a thing or object... which literally do not exist. The only “place” separation is found - is in your (so to speak) thoughts. Notice the shockingly obvious absolute oneness of perception (without thoughts being believed). Reality is ‘the way it is’... because of ‘your’ interpretation. What about without interpretation (thoughts)? Then the true nature begins to reveal itself, and shloads of magic, sense, and what you desire ensues. Don’t believe me though, that’s just another thought. @allislove ?

@Najim ? There is only now. Source appears as the ground meeting the footstep, and the memory arising in mind. Creator creating creation. Focus is pure magic. As it is directed, in kind more is experienced. We are authoring creation with via focus. We are the very unfolding of the universe.

On the pitfalls & traps; delusion, materialism, spiritual ego and blasphemy. "Royals" I've never seen a diamond in the flesh I cut my teeth on wedding rings in the movies And I'm not proud of my address In a torn-up town, no postcode envy But every song's like gold teeth, Grey Goose, trippin' in the bathroom Blood stains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair And we'll never be royals (royals) It don't run in our blood That kind of luxe just ain't for us We crave a different kind of buzz Let me be your ruler (ruler) You can call me queen Bee And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule Let me live that fantasy My friends and I—we've cracked the code We count our dollars on the train to the party And everyone who knows us knows that we're fine with this We didn't come from money But every song's like gold teeth, Grey Goose, trippin' in the bathroom Blood stains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair And we'll never be royals (royals) It don't run in our blood That kind of luxe just ain't for us We crave a different kind of buzz Let me be your ruler (ruler) You can call me queen Bee And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule Let me live that fantasy Ooh ooh oh We're bigger than we ever dreamed And I'm in love with being queen Ooh ooh oh Life is great without a care We aren't caught up in your love affair And we'll never be royals (royals) It don't run in our blood That kind of luxe just ain't for us We crave a different kind of buzz Let me be your ruler (ruler) You can call me queen Bee And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule Let me live that fantasy

‘Matter’ is a vibrational appearance of you...you literally matter. Nothing. Still thinkin there’s a ‘you’. What matters ‘you’...some ‘not you’? How are you killing thoughts? That doesn’t make sense. Perhaps there thought attachment at play, such that it is believed labelling creates separate things? All of this believing of thoughts just to maintain the facade of the separate self (suffering).

The dissonance is two. There is no control or not-control, there are the thoughts that there is or isn’t, control. ‘Dichotomy’ is the wool for the eyes to believe the dualistic finite mind. One appears as t?.

A belief is a thought repeated.

If all is imagination, dream stuff, clearly there are no separate individual enlightened ones. The experiential difference between belief & truth, is one is the truth. No separate selves = no deaths of no ones.. And no wheres. And no anothers. And no ‘separate things’ ‘held together’ by some other thing. Look at ‘your hand’ for example. Obviously nothing is holding ‘it’ together. An appearance starts and stops just like a mirage. ?

As above so below. The more you know your true nature, the more you see why everything is exactly as it is.

Listen to the cringe, what is it saying about the thought (the one about comparing yourself to others and deriving the idea that you are less smart). Feeling & intuition might be saying oh hell no bruh. You might be on the right track, and those you’re comparing yourself to might be asleep in a clueless slumber of non-inspection & non-inquiry....but you gotta abide in feeling rather than label it. One’s cringe is another’s infinite intelligence, sensational guidance. “Not smart enough” don’t jive with creating & experiencing what you desire to. You’re total fuckin awesomeness Phyllis. Feel the discord of any doubt with that. Feel the alignment with truth too.

The universe won't protect you. That there is a universe and a you is a priori.

I know right. Feels a little ‘off’. What if ‘dance’ = appearance? If eternal infinite intelligence were appearing as experience, and in appearing, forgets that it is eternal infinite intelligence, there could certainly be the experience of finite thought, and time, and thoughts like permanent, impermanent, real, unreal, void, nothing, etc. Seems like you’re going in the right inquiry direction imo. I’d suggest less argue sentiment, or framing in the approach, and a more self inquiring orientation.

Being ‘seeing’ & ‘hearing’ by being the universe. Is being ‘everything’. Is ‘everything’. Not two, not power over, is being ‘everything’. This isn’t something you could or would do, it’s what you’re already being... which is why you ‘forgot’. Notice there are the thoughts ‘God’ and ‘not God’, but in your direct experience there are not ‘two perception’.

The emotional scale. Awareness of thoughts meditation Write on dreamboard. Explanation is more than ample. Time to do.

Did Jesus talk about willing things into existence, or advanced levels? Might bring about insight into the nature of siddhis, if you’re interested in experiencing the inexplicable ineffable miracles.

Not really, but it’s a perspectival matter of direct experience rather than agreement or disagreement. Nonduality has no balance, middle way, selfless love / selfish love. The fact that pretty much all teachers say this is the case and I’m saying it isn’t, for you, arrives back at it’s direct experience that clarifies. It’s incommunicable, ineffable. Our only pointers are implied duality. One’s clarity of a pointing can be another’s thought attachment, and either can be more convincing than the other. Which is basically the same as saying a belief. Maybe in the philosophical or even physiological sense, balance seems to apply & seems to be relevant. It’s like diet & energy or clarity. There deeply seems to be a relationship but isn’t, similar to the observer ‘problem’ not being a problem at all. That’s like saying the breath of life is a ‘problem’. Not sure I would agree Jesus took a side, but that again is perspectival & direct experience. What is it for there not to actually be “sides”? Which is more what Siddhartha pointed to, as “sides” is only a thought.