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@trenton Well if you weren’t so damn awesome these thoughts wouldn’t be all discord-ish. Good luck with not being awesome. All who’ve tried have failed.

Truth isn’t found in true beliefs or the right conditions. It’s absolute, unconditional. It ‘says’ only, come along, if you feel that’s what you want to do.

Direct experience my man. The path is that tricky.

@Pernani “The challenging feat of transcending my ego” is a thought. If it is noticed that is not found in sensation, nor can it be pointed to in perception, then it has already transpired. Careful not to create work to do where there is none. It’s as simple as others are not experiencing your goals, dreams, passions and experiences, they’re experiencing sight & sound, and their own meanings. They are experiencing their dreams, passions, and experiences, which will always be primary to them, just as yours are to you. Encourage them, rather than holding expectations over them, and you bring more passion to your own. Perhaps ‘we are in the same boat’, vs ‘why aren’t you finding my desires as important as I do?’.

“Sleep”.

You are ‘personal meaningful things’? There are two of you? The noticer and the noticed? “Things”? Perhaps what you’re actually sharing, is thoughts. Did you share the experience, or thoughts about the experience? Why would you expect someone to find your thoughts as important as you do? Why are thoughts important in the first place? A misunderstanding of what’s being shared, might be leading to a misunderstanding of their reaction, which might then be internalized as there reaction is about you, when really it’s about the thoughts you shared (but you kinda believe you’re not sharing thoughts, and are sharing yourself, and thus feel hurt). Sharing yourself... or goals, thoughts on experiences, ideas, and passions? How often to you receive, listen, ask, hear, about the goals, experiences, ideas, passions, of others, without injecting your own... without asking & listening really just being a means to sharing your thoughts? If you are sharing yourself - who / what are these two? Is there a direct experience of two of you? If you didn’t believe the thoughts (& goals, passion, ideas) are you... why would there be any reaction to what people think, of the thoughts you share? Perhaps their response is of recognizing this, but not pointing it out to you.

@trenton Would it be more simple, rather than trying to find the right thoughts about your self, to try to find the self the thoughts are about?

@Gianna You already have ideas. Enlightenment is seeing that they aren’t true...seeing what they literally are, what they’re ‘made of’.

I think you got down to the belief there. Might take a minute to ‘spot’ it.

@ivankiss ?? ?

@Ray Go for the direct experience. Quite shocking, the way one indeed does essentially ‘exclude’ the other. In hindsight it’ll be thought & perception, and not even.

The more you experience the impulse or reaction, and meet it with relaxation, breathing through it, the less the reaction is a reaction, the less it occurs just like any other subject matter. This can be rough, but in not-doing and witnessing, thoughts will be noticed that weren’t before, and those thoughts are then seen as the suffering rather than the sensation in and of itself. Keep the body in mind.

@Someone here It all seems like the thoughts you’re focusing on and believing. While it may seem like the way to liberate from causality and reactionary experiencing is to figure it out, to think more...because the duality is only in thoughts, the opposite ‘direction’ of letting thoughts come and go without believing them is the way. Even the thoughts are spontaneously appearing.

@Striving for more

@Rishabh R Practice expressing how you’re feeling emotionally.

@rd5555 If you want to move, move. If you want to stay, hang out when you want, focus on what you want to in your room when you want to. Have your cake and eat it too. Wondering what’s urgent about this, and what the anxiety’s about. Thinking it’s too much concern for other people’s thoughts. No?

Would it be valuable to you to drop the habit of valuing?

No.

Stop with this childish game playing and dig deep. Ideas of you won’t do, and bypassing is for sexual preference, not the truth. Hangs out in bushes, waits for miracle....

@Podie45 You took the meds to ‘solve’ that you were ignoring well being. Talk to your doctor about weening off the meds as slowly as is possible. Over as many months as possible would be ideal. Today, right now, choose well being. Feel the shift in orientation - call that relief alignment. If you don’t feel that relief - let the presently held belief, which is in opposition to it, go. Humble to it. Not it to you. Sacrifice literally everything else, all activities & beliefs which are in discord (you feel it) with well being. Careful not to claim you can’t feel....while you’re paramount concern, is how you feel. You’re feeling alright, absolutely. Feel the truth of yourself... You are patient. You are kind. You do not envy. You are not boastful. You do not degrade, diminish, or dishonor others. You are not self seeking, you are giving, and loving. You do not rejoice in thoughts of discord, but in truth. You are always hopeful, you always persevere. You never fail. All knowledge will pass away, but consciousness, silence, you -will eternally remain. Turn pain into beauty, by allowing the fetters of untruths about you to naturally fall away. Choose to align perspective, with feeling. Pick a tool. Start expressing. Start understanding the emotions you’re experiencing. Blame me. Hate me. That is a good start. Don’t settle there though, go all the way up the scale. Empty the cup, which is filled with unwanted. There is nothing you can do, think or believe, which could make it such that you are not infinitely loved. Stop trying. Stop denying. It’s people like you they fear you know. People that get up. Get up.

What’s a past & present self? Explain that to me like I don’t have one, and want to understand your beliefs.

@Vibroverse Dig a little deeper.

There are not two. Who or what could identify as awareness... and identity...is /are thoughts awareness is aware of too. Where is “things”? Where is that direct experience?

@Loving Radiance Gotta be careful with this not believing thoughts about you stuff, it’s been known to drive people completely happy.