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@SunAngel Very relatable, and sorry to hear of your loss. I’ve experienced similar, and find a correlation. Just as a way to explain, I find most people believe their understanding & labels upon feeling & emotion so deeply that they believe in and avoid ‘negative emotions’, vs embracing, listening to and exploring the entire emotional spectrum and allowing their guidance system to fully resonate in all of it’s shades. Another way to put this, most people live in emotional suppression but don’t know it. Some events in life trigger the projecting or the releasing of the suppressed emotions. An event such as you described doesn’t leave a lot of room for projection in a common triggering / thinking sense, but brings about profound sadness, and most notably a sorrow which I would describe as ‘below’ or ‘prior to’ sadness. Prior to the sorrow is love. Not romantically or passionately obviously, but you might say mystical, or love as an entity rather than a product of a relationship or experience. Unconditional, infinite love, which has no limit in it’s loving and comforting you. ‘Look’ for a comforting pungent peace in sorrow, and it is present. Infinite can not know finite, and thus can not communicate in dualistic language. Imagery and the use of symbols is more ‘communicable’ in this mystical sorrow / love - peace frequency, or space. If you are interested not so much in trying to logically explain the experience via thought, but experiencing more of the mystical communication of infinite unconditional love, so to speak, you might try writing out the three primary reiki symbols daily. They serve as a connection / communication, which is not communicable through language, but if you ‘do the practice’ daily, you’ll see what I mean and I believe you’ll be glad you took the time as was I. I believe only then, wether by that method or another, you’ll have the answers you’re looking for. God bless and sorry again to hear of your loss. Very difficult to go through indeed. You might also contemplate and inspect, that wherever there is light, it has a source. Wherever there is darkness, there is never a source of it or for it.

Give these meditations a read. They’re oriented toward being without anxiety, by understanding & expressing, vs coping. I think one or two will really ‘click’ just in reading them. If you spend ten minutes a couple times a day with those one or two I think you’ll be glad you did. Be sure to release / express, and not to suppress (typically with the belief “something is wrong with me”). Also, understanding the emotions you’re experiencing, vs misunderstanding or potentially misinterpreting and directing thought toward yourself, is incredibly relieving and empowering. The frame work, or thinking behind these methods is that anxiety isn’t something one has, and has to combat, but an experience one creates unknowingly from collective conditioning and self referential thinking. The more it is seen & understood how one is creating it, the less one does, and the more one feels the true nature of love, peace and happiness via alignment with the true nature. Making a dreamboard can be a real life changing experience specifically in relation to anxiety. What was interpreted as fear or nervousness is realized to be excitement and enthusiasm.

@Frosty97 Curious, which psychedelics did you take which you’re comparing the sober tripping to, and specifically... on psychedelics, did you experience a lot of visual hallucinations? And feeling wise, did you experience more freedom, love, openness, release... or more anxiety, fear, nervousness?

Yeah. I’ve found fundamentals like diet, fitness, reiki classes etc to be very effective and honing. Not sure if you’ve experienced any purges or what your living / financial / age situation is, but I found long weekends alone in nature to open the valve full throttle. There’s ups and downs and a lot of clearing out but then it’s familiar and more comfortable, and again more honed. All very very worthwhile. Pm me anytime ya like.

Don’t go. Take your space, listen to your intuition and feeling. Look toward breaking that judgement cycle in the longer term too, if I might. I know it isn’t easy, but that’s what we gotta do. Can’t wait on someone else, cause someone else waitin on you.

Maybe review your techniques, find some opportunities. Have you tried no game in mind, just saying hi, chatting, being straightforward? If not, maybe try it, and then makes some comparisons between the two approaches. Also, if you’ve approached ten in a month, but are planning to approach ten per day, make sure you’re not taking the wind out of your own sails by thinking and feeling as if you have already been approaching ten a day.

@tuckerwphotography Maybe the term / word “meditation” (middle way) becomes an insight now, far prior to a label for a practice. Jesus said “movement and repose” (not or, as in two). I think of that as well, and it’s funny. Do you see the funny, or only the serious?

@tuckerwphotography Or when ‘all the world is a stage’, and spiral dynamics is just one act.

What is the ultimate fate of reality? Self realization.

? ? You just started a revolution.

There’s no one to integrate or take psychedelics. The conversation never actually defines anything. (Any conversation). If there is, that could be said to be ‘the problem’. No self, no problem. Psychedelics: ” “ Holding onto a problem, the solution becomes the problem. Upon looking, the hand was always empty, sans the imagined hot coal. The solution is always the next thing, until the next thing is letting go of the belief that there is a problem. Often, not a ‘fun’ thing to do, the more identified via ‘the problem’ one is.

As in proposed marriage, asked her to marry you?

I’ve heard there are even parts of the world where woman are genuinely attracted to men who treat them with insensitivity, or, as petty / subordinate, but ‘round’ here, it does not seem like racism & self diminishing thoughts attract anything.

Twoness, identification, believing thoughts and ideas. Only a problem for a thinker thinking. Love never minds, cause love never matters.

By definition in the usage here, it is a stage. What about when there are no stages?

Being a lens of focus of conditions, and an infinite being which becomes them, is pretty interesting, fun, carefree, and exciting. Like exploring everywhere without leaving home. The meaninglessness is the beauty, just as love, peace, happiness, and creator creating creation needs no reasons. Beauty, like love, is not just a thought, opinion, or experience, but causeless true self, or nonlocal timeless true nature. “Everything I do in this life” is still applying meaning, but sort of pretending you aren’t. If the lens created it “this life has no real meaning”, one can not be truly surprised in experiencing this life has no real meaning. The creator is prior to meaning, the creator creates it, purposefully, or otherwise. A dreamboard, meditation, and the emotional scale. But I’d say ‘made it prior’ to meaning, creation, thought & understanding, not beyond. ‘Beyond’ has the essence of a knower knowing, which sucks the deepest fun out of experience / being, and traces back to thought attachment / separation. (In this usage) A stage is either something you’re having the time of your life on, or something you’re mentally, presently, ‘stuck’ in. For there to be a trap to escape, is to believe one is in a trap to escape. It’s applying meaning, just not meaning which resonates with pure freedom. Nihilism is thought based. Sometimes there is the seeing through meaning experienced as a concern or a loss, because it’s thought based, and not direct experience. The mirage of concern is actually the love. Making a dreamboard is like retreats, etc... it’s all about the direct experience, yet less fleeting. If it’s helpful / useful with ‘where you’re at’, consider... levels of knowing can be said to be known, but not knowing has not the levels which were known. This imo was best captured and expressed by the most obviously woke person on the planet, Justin Bieber, who said, “my mamma don’t like you... and she likes everyone”. Know yourself as nothing, as not knowing without any thing to know. Yet feel yourself as true, truth, ‘real’ / eternal, being all that is. Most often nihilism is bypassing true and unique desires, for life, using existential concepts. The smallest, tiniest step in life, in the desired direction, however seemingly insignificant, is the game changer, and the beginning of an effortless Re contextualization of experience, and ‘what is’, or, ‘where you’re at’ life wise.

If you needed help you wouldn’t have a choice, but you do, and really it’s just like anything else. Getting help is you choosing to help yourself and get where you desire to get to. Take the path of least resistance.

@Javfly33 ?? @Lyubov Omg that was funny.

It’s hard to say what you’re referring to, as a lot was said on the thread. If you have questions fire away. The more specific the questions you formulate are, the more you stand to experience insights, or, realizations. Like, get painstakingly incredibly specific. I did make this video, which covers a lot of what this thread is about, and a couple follow up videos which are more ‘and now see this in your life’ oriented. Not to imply watching videos is a substitute for talking things through, and more importantly, for direct experience. These bring more realization about, of course.

@Godishere Yes. What feels off for ya? (Curious)

If you went to the park one nice day and met love, and said to love, “you are fear, you resist, you lack, you must improve, you’re a cheater, you’re not developed enough, you’re clinging, you need, you have issues, you take way too long, you’ve hurdles, you’ve blocks, you’re cloudy & distorted, you’re not clear, you’re incoherent, you’re divided, you’re awkward, you’re anger, you lack interest, you don’t care and you’re weird, you’re very distant, you avoid loving in relationships and friendships because you’re love, you’ve huge barriers of living and dating, you can’t be interested or show interest in your current condition, you can not connect with anyone, you lack yourself, you are a split psyche, you want to be miserable forever, you’re true identity is misery, you sabotage yourself, and you’re in a concrete cell...” love would not have heard a single word of this. But because love is unconditionally loving, you would feel the discord and judgement of everything you said, to love. You could still believe these things about love, by labelling ‘yourself’, with labels like fear, anxiety, etc. But a psychedelic will take these labels away. Revealing to you that you are saying these things, telling this story, to love. It’s very humbling to experience love is always loving.

@28 cm unbuffed You didn’t die and come back per se. You think you did because you can’t think yourself, and because all thinking is twoness (alive & dead, here & there). You ‘came back’ to be in love, but aren’t realizing you in very literally in love right now. There’s just the one of you, not two, and that One is This. Look for what to let go, which is no longer resonating or serving you, and as you do, you float and feel this love. And not just childhood, relationships, etc stuff, concepts, beliefs about the bigger picture or reality. When more is let go it’s easier to focus more on what you love, enjoy and have passion for. Life makes sense.

@4201 Want nonduality instead. Tame the ox. Sessions aren’t necessary, but to compare, just like anything else, you have to have the direct expereince to be able to compare the direct experience.

Yes, not two is a thought, and there are not two perception’s, or two in perception. It’s better to check for yourself. Try to find separation, inspect, investigate. Yes, even the word / thought ‘perception’ as a pointer can go. Yes, this is conditioning. Learned language, numbers, etc... believed to define separate objects, rather than serve as communication in regard to what is in actuality has never been separate. Fingers could be said to correspond to toes, yet aren’t really separate... learning the words, and believing thoughts, makes it seem so. Also, ‘correspond’ is another thought, a label learned, based on the belief in two, in perception. If there are not two, and there is ‘stuff’....

Notice you are aware of the thoughts of there being versions, or past versions of yourself, but there are not actually other versions of you. Double check, be sure, by looking around. What you’re experiencing are thoughts, about yourself. The thoughts are believed to be about you - but are not actually about you. THAT is what feels off. You might be believing the thoughts are about you and are true - and that is what feels off. It isn’t. Feeling is letting you know that those thoughts are not about you. They are just, thoughts. They aren’t really about a time which exists outside of this present moment... and they are really about a you which exists outside of this present moment. It simply is as it is actually experienced - that thought doesn’t feel good. It feels off if I think about a version of myself too. It would feel off to anyone. By hating and not wanting to remember anything you hated about yourself - you are unfortunately focusing on hate, and the very thoughts which you do not want to focus on. You do not like how it feels to focus on thoughts about yourself (which aren’t actually true or about yourself) and to focus on hate. So, focus on what does feel good to you. It could be the smallest things. Looking at a picture of a puppy online for example, feels incredibly better than focusing on hate. It is good to get some time to yourself, away from what triggers you. REALLY take that time away though. Focus on something, anything, else. Rather than thinking in terms of changing yourself ... read a bit and understand the emotions you are experiencing. You are love and you are a creator. If you are focusing on hate and thoughts about yourself that don’t feel good.... that is what love is creating, that experience. If it feels terrible, it’s because hate is in extreme discord with the actuality that you are love. When you focus on anything else, that is what love is creating. If it feels great, it’s because it’s aligned with the true nature, or, that you are love. Don’t expect to “realize” anything here. You’re already feeling the alignment and or discord. Listen to that. Listen. There is nothing that actually needs to be solved. There is nothing that needs to be avoided or run away from. There is nothing wrong with you which is in need of fixing.