Nahm

Elliptical, Bowflex, speed bag & heavy bag mostly.

What happens when you meditate? Overbearing or anything?

Change perspective anytime, to those which feel good. Be more picky what you put in front of you. You are not the source of these concerns. They’re learned, conditioning.

There is awareness of what’s said... but there is also awareness of what one is saying. When you say ‘life is meaningless’... there is implied meaning, something defined under the radar... “life”. In this sense you are adding meaning (to ‘life’) while saying ‘life’ is meaningless. Regardless... to much ‘in the head’... let go... ‘move into’ the body, feeling, etc. Might sound untrue, and wouldn’t blame you... but if you never experienced another thought again, everything life wise would actually carry on just fine. Arguably, better.

Awareness is directly aware of thought, perception and sensation. A typically helpful pointer. Also, there is no such thing as awareness, thought, perception and sensation.

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No. ‘Perception of the body’...is a thought. There isn’t a before and after thought... since before and after are thoughts.

@EmptyVase We must be entangled somehow. Just added a new one yesterday on how to Go Prior, resistance, and momentum.

@Galyna You probably don’t have a vibrator, but if you did you could check direct experience. You could turn vibration on and turn vibration off. You would notice the hearing / sound experience comes and goes in unison with the vibration. Inseparable. One in the same. Imagine the vibrator is ‘hearing’, or rather, labelling it’s own vibration as sound & hearing, a labelling which is of course also, vibration.

@One Day So much love, joy & inspiration indeed! “Moving past the bullshit from my past”... is the belief there is a past... and that is how you’re keeping the discord active. There’s no past, nothing to move beyond. The truth is that good. If you keep saying there is though, that isn’t letting it go, that’s “the problem”. There is no problem, there is just saying there is a problem. (Saying the problem is that there is a past, and that you have to move past it). This is what’s pointed to with “the separate self” being illusory and the root of suffering. It’s as simple as telling the story about you and your life, that you actually want. That will then be what you experience. This is always true. Notice it’s true right now and always has been. You are telling the story of having to move past a past... and your experience is that of focusing on trying to move past a past. If you can laugh about this, you’re very wise.

Expression ‘works’ because it’s so hard to spot that you are saying there is a problem. With ample expressing, you release the belief. You’re no longer holding the belief, because it was expressed out. You’re also believing no one could help you to do this. That also is a belief. You’re free to believe these things and suffer, but listen to what the suffering is saying, what is it telling you so to speak. But there isn’t a problem in the first place. Perhaps just the habit of insisting that there is, and insisting that you are right, and insisting no one can help you. Believing meaninglessness is a problem... is believing there is a problem. It’s meaning which is being wrestled with, the belief kind, or, the not actually true kind of meaning. There is quite literally, absolutely, nothing at all needed from beliefs, meaning, or anyone, for you to love today, and all that arises. Here is a suggestion as to how to go about that, and ‘why’.

You can believe there are two, imagination, and reality. You can also believe there are three, imagination, reality, and you. If you no longer believed this, it would be clear that believing was the denial, and that it was being projected.

@Loving Radiance Not really no.

@SQAAD If you believe there are unicorns, and someone else doesn’t, they are not in denial of anything. You would just be in denial that you are believing in unicorns, and projecting the denial. It’s likely you would do this because you think the truth is not good. It’s likely you believe that because you hold a belief that you are not good.

@SQAAD Those assumptions = your suffering.

@One Day Making a dreamboard puts everything you want, that feels good to you, in front of you. Slowly but surely, identifying via a past dissipates as inspiration fills you via aligning thought with feeling (no longer expecting to think the same yet feel good).

Feeling isn’t broken, it’s literally perfection. But thought makes it so.

@dvl64x Up means not down, down means not up. Meaning is dualistically implied, but is apparent.

@SQAAD Do you experience a their experience and a their suffering?

And? Quit?

@Podie45 It is possible to have a belief about oneself and be aware of it and feeling it... while missing what the word belief means, or, what a belief is. Even feeling the resistance of the belief with the desire (for a relationship), it’s still not unheard of to miss what a belief actually is. In missing the relationship between the belief and the resistance, it is possible to believe something is wrong with oneself such as having anxiety, or that one is antisocial. It’s common to try many things that don’t work, but make one feel worse, like trying to force oneself out of being comfortable in the present moment, which usually results in bringing up very uncomfortable suppressed emotion, which can often come out as blame, but doesn’t do much for feeling better. It’s also common, in missing that initial belief something is wrong with oneself, to try to be something or someone one is not, this also unfortunately typically results in experiencing blame. It’s possible to be feeling the desire to be social and have a relationship, but missing the resistance is from the belief, not from being social or having relationships. That unfortunately usually results in feeling the resistance more intensely and creating another belief... that the intense feeling is because something is wrong with oneself. Believing in the solution tends to reinforce the original belief, that there is a problem as in something being wrong with oneself. Again, in not recognizing the belief is a belief, it’s possible to add another belief, that one has to accept the discord, or, suffering. When this is experienced to be impossible (because the belief is a belief) the suffering can be so intense that it seems nothing could relieve the belief. One often thinks of everything outside of oneself, and is aware none of them really change this long term, and yet still it is possible for it not to ‘click’, what a belief is. This difficult path always leads back to ideas. The intuition knows that is where the relief lies. The world, or, conditioning, teaches the solution to a problem is more, but the intuition knows less, is really more. In learning this way from conditioning, one innocently attempts to apply this theory of adding more to their emotional experience. But the intuition knows and feels that pushing, forcing, and trying to be someone one is not will never bring peace. Only being yourself will do, because a belief is a belief.

@ivankiss Write a song about a guy doing everything on earth to create an identity. Use three chords. Be honest.

@Gabith I’d definitely do that. Love to hear back on it after just two or three days. I think you’ll feel relief and more relaxed. Thought activity will settle. Godspeed.

Infinite can not know finite. Infinite is the true nature. For One (infinity) to experience, One must appear to itself to be two, and one forgets it’s own oneness by ‘doing’ (being) so. It’s unthinkably brilliant, and the only possibility which allows for experience, or, creation. The apparent twoness of thought is a facade, illusory, the actuality is oneness appearing. This is why thought detachment leads to enlightenment and thinking more does not. More thinking, concepts, conceptualization and reconceptualization is creation, all illusory, and is great and serves creation, which is an appearance. In direct experience this is not exactly accurate. No one experiences your thoughts. And if & when they do, they’ll quickly realize it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be, and they’ll ‘turn it off’. Short of this rare exception, thoughts are private. Yes it is. Enlightenment and life has always been that simple and straight forward and it will always be. Thread wise, consider, a ‘narcissist’ is actually suffering greatly and doing everything possible not to, but it could be said they are just taking the very hard path. Thought detachment, or transcending the finite mind, is not believing thoughts. That, can’t be thunk. Which is why folks meditate, do yoga, go on retreats, employ practices, eat clean, speak clean, think clean, let stuff go swiftly, etc. Looking for reason to live in thought is like looking in the garbage at Disneyland and not even recognizing you are already in Disneyland. “Reasons” is just more illusory thinking. “Control” is more illusory thinking. Let such discordant thoughts go. They never add up to anything. No one needs a reason to do, be, have, create & experience what they want, though it could be said they ‘need’ the empowerment to do so. Empowerment is indicative of the true nature, which again is uncovered by releasing conditioning. Releasing conditioning is effortless. Resisting feeling takes effort. Something to consider... a bigger picture frame up of sorts... A person experiencing negative psychology will first spite & resent someone experiencing positive psychology. They usually employ deflection & projection, and name call or insinuate with labels like ‘goody two shoes’, or ‘lucky’, and they’ll attribute what they aren’t yet willing to recognize within their own behaviors, actions & choices, as what is outside of human choice, like genetics, talent, charisma, and other ‘God given attributes’. A person experiencing positive psychology will first spite & resent ‘someone’ ‘experiencing’ no mind. They will usually be more manipulative and subtle about their deflection & projection, attacking their character, discrediting, etc, and projecting their own unresolved motives and impulsive behavior onto them. They don’t believe as much in luck, because they’ve experienced changing their own psychology from negative to positive, but they are still ‘lost’ thought, or, “psychology” (which is a thought). None of this negative or positive psychology will carry over into no mind, only true mental and emotional equanimity will do here, and that requires addressing the reaction and impulse of the apparent body / person / animal. ‘Someone’ ‘experiencing’ no mind will no longer spite or resent anyone, because they addresses the reaction and impulse of the animalistic side of the situation, and now see those are illusory thoughts which are in discord, and they’re well aware of this, and they desire to embody more of the true nature, as no mind equals more feeling presence which of course feels wonderful. Most hang their hat here, in accordance with how personality has or hasn’t served them, and do or don’t relinquish remaining vestiges of personality and or animalistic influence (attachment to reaction, impulse, lux, sex drive, relationships, habit, etc), which tends to dictate an absence of the humility required to recognize that in creation one plus one, and all which arises of it, is great than one. Just perspectives for consideration.

One approach is consideration it’s what we don’t do or add which naturally ‘results’ in present moment awareness being present moment awareness. Not doing things like eating sugar, starches, drinking alcohol, caffeine, not focusing on what I don’t even like, etc. But then you gonna feel, a lot. But then, that’s what you want in the first pace.