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@Madhur Settin up a sort of ‘I have her love or I suffer’ scenario there. Head’s up.

‘Becoming’ is a tricky word, as it gives the impression it is not already the case and suppressed. A ‘looking for it’ begins and leads to an allowing it as natural expression. These natural aspects are veiled by labelling (‘masculine’).

When your narrative upon what you’re experiencing ceases (literally your entire story about a “her”, and all therein), she experiences with clarity that she is feeling her own perspectives. Until then, you confuse your selves so to speak, & continue believing you confuse each other. That is the confusion. This clarity is present and available sitting next to her, or in an ashram. Always up to you.

Much love brother!

Using the scientific investigative process, inspect the actuality of ‘the scientific view’. Find how it is separate from just, your view. Go prior. Because splitting a thought in two is just, another thought. “I” is of course just another thought, and thoughts are not a product of brains, as brains is just, another thought. Yes, emotional suppression and apparent corresponding identification rumination, or, mind seeking the substance of itself beyond or outside of, ‘itself’. (The’ Trap’) Subject & objects, subjective & objective, are thoughts, mistaken as ‘a me’ thinking. Prove to … who? What a Jokester no one is.

@Brivido Great insights. Pleasure to read & thanks for sharing. How is your foundation of basics like daily meditation, clean eating, etc? That’d help with the self referential thoughts which ‘hijack’ the revelations in hindsight, creating the ‘rollercoastering’ experience, the ‘that’ world & ‘this’ world aspect.

Very nice.

Why all this ‘9-5 slave labor’, ‘trauma’ etc? Ducks? Giraffe’s? Concrete? Clouds? What is it literally (not your labels)? Why is it so? Do you survive in a dream, or do you survive, in a dream?

Separation is like nonexistence.

@Consilience ?

@TrippyMindSubstance Awesome. The ‘ultimate’ self referential thought is about a ‘you’ which ‘goes from’ singularity to ‘back in separation’. Going from singularity implies to somewhere. Singularity be’s somewhere.

@Thought Art If you say so.

@Thought Art ‘You & fear’, dream content which isn’t. Creator-creating-creation. Dreamer-dreaming-dream.

@Thought Art That’d be ‘what transpired’, but didn’t. Exactly like a dream and waking up. “Death” is dream content. ‘You & here’, dream content, which there isn’t.

@Thought Art When you wake up from a dream, whatever transpired didn’t.

No you, enlightenment; no you, no enlightenment.

@Adodd If you have a deep dedication to your life purpose, you’re going to learn & grow, A LOT. You’re not going to project or blame the hurdles & challenges for how you feel as easily because it results in the same results over & over (not feeling good, not manifesting what’s desired). You instead learn & explore emotion, more clarity & understanding arises, reaction & blame is more seen through, and you make progress (it manifests). If you’re not that committed, you’re more likely to settle for discord, like depression, believing it’s being caused by the world. (Or in this case, by a girlfriend, or boyfriend).

@paprika Why are you trying to change her, really ? Is that working? If not, what might?

How so?

@TrippyMindSubstance I see, thanks. The emotional scale would be most helpful. Blame is keeping that cycle of oneness & separation going. It’s pretty subtle. If you reach for the better feeling thought / emotion up the scale from blame to love, you’ll realize that’s what you’ve been repeating. But, you’ve been repeating this “about yourself” (in thought), vs understanding you’re creating & experiencing an emotion (feeling). Doing it mindfully, on purpose, illuminates when done unconsciously. Consciously, it wouldn’t be done anymore, simply for how you feel now, rather than in regard to what seems to have happened, or how the world is believed to be responsible for how you feel, or for ‘you separation’.

@somegirl In all fairness it’s probably impossible to imagine what it’s like without the experience of thoughts about other people thinking. I’m probably projecting something along the lines of fear, motive, and what other people think not working out for everyone or something.

@somegirl Thoughts pop up about what other people think & say, or might think & say, and you’re reacting emotionally to those thoughts. You blame it on the other people as if your thoughts about other people’s thoughts were actually other people’s thoughts, because more deeply you see they are not living emotionally reactionary lives. Or not, I might be way off. Maybe fear is real, who knows. That was just the seventh thing that came to mind and it felt very on.

@EugeneTheSage Whatever you frame up as to be escaped or delayed… go back and think twice, you might be in error. You might be projecting lemons onto the lemonade of life. How do you know with such certainty that what stands to enslave is not actually what stands to set the mind free? Nonetheless, if your vision and plan are actually less exciting, desirable, inspiring & invigorating than an ashram, maybe that is your best bet.

The experience is real, which the labelling & identifying hides.

Who embodies God.