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Adopt a more mature perspective. You’re calling the way of the peace you most want gibberish. You’re right on point about not getting sucked into the thinking, the grandiose etc. Grounding is the way. The transmutation is happening. With daily expression, the mind doesn’t venture out so far as to project demons etc into perception. Without expression, it gets worse until it gets so bad, one expresses.

@Alfonsoo No, the opposite. Limiting beliefs are not something you work on, they’re more like a pack of jackals. “Working on them” = feeding them, which keeps them around. The nature of a belief is that it isn’t true. That’s what trips reveal or show you, so to speak. If you go into a trip with “something to work on”, you’re goin in with conditions, ‘my problems’, expectations, and with an a prior assumption something is wrong or broke and needs to be fixed. Trips show there’s nothing wrong, nothing that needs fixing… same as focusing on breathing from the stomach (meditation) which you can do any time, namely, in a trip. ‘Going into’ solving & fixing in a trip is just askin for looping and resistance. It’s called a trip because you leave, you know? It’s not called ‘my same everyday shit’. It’s more ‘literally… leave it all, let it all go… very literally - all of it. Relationships, the past, the future, others, the “self” of thoughts & fixing & problems & solutions, reality… let it all go’.

Make a dreamboard. Get all the juice of wanted outta this whole experience. You quit college initially, with a lot of unwanted in mind. Write it all in detail on a sheet of paper, then write the opposites in detail, what you do want, on your dreamboard. “Figuring” it all out is just one way. Writing what you want, not “figuring it out”, and just enjoying the inspiration & watching it appear is also one way.

@Ilan Priceless recontextualization. LMAO! Nice!

Agreed. Neither helpful nor considerate to anyone, yet no one is disappointed, and no one cares about projected expectations. They’re fictitious. The top of Maslow’s pyramid is a complimentary sentiment, but of course take it how you might. Something an exceptionally small percentage of people experience. The mugglfication of the pyramid points to the good news, that there is so much more. That you’ve not really even started yet. Realizing you’re creating this via dreaming, basically. Understanding what you’re attracting & why, and consciously proceeding. A real step beyond, also as in actual expansion, vs trying to pack everything into an existing box. What’s this need based on? How are you so certain? What does meaning have to do with a relationship? Doesn’t sound like it. Sounds like he’s avoiding his own intimacy, and in doing so unknowingly, avoiding the relationship. It melts the armor, getting ‘too’ close. The Light’ll melt all that “meaningful” stuff away. That’s just how you’re choosing to take it. Always up to you.

Yes & no.

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That ‘afterglow’ is you. If we hold fearful or discordant beliefs about ourselves, our reality, our future, etc… the more we ‘look at or into them’, the more relief (afterglow) is realized (truth). Careful not to swing the pendulum too far to the nondual, in regard to relative matters of expression / emptying. Talking (expression) with someone could by far be the path of lessor resistance. Either way, good for you on addressing this stuff you’ve been carrying. Happy for you!

Even “the present moment” is a projected layer. Just advice, but… stop conceptualizing nothing. Knowing / thinking the path is 1%, walking it is 99% (daily practice, diet & behavior changes, retreats, trips, etc, etc).

@Alfonsoo I’d ‘clean your house’ prior to the trip, for a more assured ‘good’ trip. Daily morning meditation, daily expression journaling, a clean diet, and a full dreamboard. The trip would be more of a reward, a taking of all that having cleaned up the house to the next inspirational step, showing you the way / connecting dots / meeting you in co-creating / helping shed light on underlying limiting beliefs.

@Seeker531 ?? @Zega She can pm or email me anytime if interested. It’d be helpful to chat. A lot doesn’t add up here, as in there is much projection of unrelated discord onto the awakening experience, clouding / confusing it / herself. She kinda has to want to experience something like that though (a call w me). I wouldn’t suggest it too heavily. She might not be ready to sort through it even if there is some suffering.

@Vzdoh Sounds like you both are at the very pinnacle of Maslow’s pyramid for muggles…. but that’s it. Neither taking the real step beyond. You’re not satisfied, and looking to him. He’s not satisfied, and isn’t even looking yet.

Could also not be the case at all. Write what you want on a dreamboard. Let it go from mind. Reality becomes it. Talking with someone is great for the harboring of any anger or resentment.

@CameronsExploring The feeling of actual emptiness.

@CameronsExploring There is a misappropriation, a mislabeling or miscategorizing of emptiness. Emptiness is the greatest feeling possible, and all things are possible in emptiness, and inspiration runs through your veins like electric love-bliss. What you’re experiencing is not emptiness, it is the reluctance to ‘empty your cup’. The expedited route is to do some things selflessly for others. Then you will realize the goodness of feeling sought is not coming from somewhere or something else, but arising in, as, you, because you are awesome. Unthinkably awesome. The emptiness of the sky is not reoccurring, but the clouds (thoughts) make it seem so.

Pain is stubbing your toe. It’s guidance which says ‘watch where you’re stepping’. Suffering is continuing to think about the stubbing event. It’s guidance which says ‘watch what you’re focusing on’. Likewise, you can not hold a discordant perspective and accept it. What must be accepted is the letting go, of the discordant perspective, because it is not in alignment or agreeable with your unconditional true nature. Those who are right suffer. Those who put feeling above being right do not. “That I am separate”, “that there are two” = “right”… suffering.

Maybe ‘successful’ in this case is a house of cards, and he’s avoiding the intuitive knowing of this. He might have a seemingly fulfilling self image going (“happy” with myself because of what people think, how I’m seen, how important I am to the company / my friends & family), and not quite at the point of allowing the facade to burn away and the actuality to be. That ‘burning away’ would be most intimate for him, and thus he would then be most intimately available, for you. What confuses the issue is that you support the house of cards, by making it about you (not putting yourself in his shoes). If you put yourself in his shoes, you’d realize you’re doing the same thing. Your connotation of success actually supports his workaholism. This is the underlying attraction (your belief at at play on the lens) both of you seem captive to but unaware of. There isn’t “successful”, and then this other thing… time for a relationship, joy, fun, happiness, etc. That is success. True, or actual success. He doesn’t have to work that much, he chooses to, but does not realize why, or that he does. He thinks he’s “taking care of everyone”, and you support that belief… while all evidence is to the contrary.

Believing something’s wrong and trying to resolve it (in thought) is existential rumination. The ‘cure’ is meditation, because nothing’s wrong… there is just the judgmental activity of thoughts, that there is, something wrong. The byproduct of meditation is the expression / emptying out of what arises (the why, when, & how it is you came to believe something’s wrong and the letting go of identifying as such). The byproduct of that emptying / letting go is a full circle ‘return’ to the actuality of focus, which there wasn’t anything wrong with… and which was only obscured by the belief something is wrong, and the labelling (of feeling & emotion) which enabled the belief. It’s most humbling, relieving & freeing, realizing “something’s wrong” is a belief / projection. Nothing’s wrong with you. You’re perfect how you are, and you always will be.

@4201 Love you! (And that’ll never change)

Of course, anytime. Un-attracting would be more precise. The belief in need is inherently the belief in lack, shortage, and separation. Were it not for the fact you’re literally creating so called reality right now, such beliefs wouldn’t be relevant. Like all differences, the difference is apparent. If you like, experiential.

@KaRzual We could say you could practice listening / holding space… but that is the practice of meditation. Might be new info so to speak, but letting a belief go isn’t an implementable doing, it’s a letting go. Non-doing might look like feeling / experiencing reaction, yet not buying into it / believing it / reacting in terms of speech, behavior & action.

Linelessness. Meditation… non-implementation.

Are you having sex right now? No. Are you fine? Yes. You believe you need sex, and that belief is in your direct experience. Odds are she is not attracted to being needed. Likewise, she’ll likely find not being needed, but being profoundly desired & wanted, irresistible. Identifying as a horny creature that craves & thus needs sex, you don’t see the goddess, only the projection… the fulfilling object to you the needy subject. There is a facade of holding space, such that thoughts are arising and focus is on the thoughts. There is an actuality of that-you-are-“space” in which thoughts aren’t appearing / arising.

Understanding is relativity.