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Hopefully Leo sent him an E-mail and he'll be reading it one of the days, at least he is aware of his existence now.

Destiny visiting actualized.org right now: @Leo Gura lol

Problem is Destiny just isn't too interested in philosophy or metaphysics.

It would be so bad, lol.

Yes, using the term "Illusion" or "Imagination" only makes sense as it is contextualized in contemporary or common understandings of reality. In essence, illusion just means that there is no inherent substance to reality that is stable or universal, as it is thought of by most minds. Or there is nothing beyond the appearance of reality (but that really translates to the same). So, the apparent rigidity of reality is an illusion.

Boghossian is very much stuck in orange, I'd think it would be hard to have any meaningful conversation with him.

No, what is an illusion is calling them "shackles". They just are what they are. Nothing wrong with identity or survival.

Ah, that's why the argument you used to undermined my view was based on suffering.

It's evident from what you say. You attribute spiritual meaning, the ultimate spiritual meaning, to freeing yourself from suffering. You can attribute spiritual meaning to anything, that's your choice.

You will not be in perfect harmony forever. You will die and then just be a fruitfly that suffers. There is no escaping this. You're just scared of suffering and are trying to eliminated it from reality because of how obsessed you are with it.

You are literally just making up those chains in your mind. There are no chains, this is the highest phase of existence already.

There is no need to get out of anything. Liberate yourself from what, exactly? Existence, being?

I leave it there for people like you.

I think you are a little bit obscure Leo, you'd have to start doing debates or something to get one peoples radars. Degrade yourself to their level.

I don't remember what you said, was it that you didn't know? But then how does that relate to infinity? Why would infinity be limited?

@Leo Gura Do you believe there can be parts of God that are eternally separated from the Godhead? A state of eternal and total suffering?

No, not the ugly ones.

So you do think this can exist? Parts of God that are for all of eternity separated from the Godhead (yes yes it's an illusion but you know what I mean)? Given infinity, that means there are parts of God that are eternally and totally suffering?

But what about fucking grandma in heaven for infinite years?

It's not a stupidity, you're just close minded and uncritically accept societal preconceptions. I know people in such relationships who are more heatlhy and mature than 95% of people, and they have to listen to these bigotted opinions as if they in any shape or form help society resolve actual cases of abuse and dysfunction.

That's not the risk ratio of psychedelics. Far more people will do stupid shit with it. Liberty comes at a cost. The solution here is better education. That's why incest laws are barbaric and irrational.

It's not whataboutism. I'm not saying "The Palestinians are doing bad things therefore the Israelis can do bad things too!". I'm saying from an "objective" lense, it is actually good that the Israeli's are killing Palestinians, because in the end you are saving more individuals this way. And not by killing innocence, but by killing rights violators such as mass murderers (people who directly fund and consume the tortured corpses or excretions of rape victims). In fact, they should kill each other as much as they can to reduce the atrocities and violations they engage in. This is more like Hitler killing a bunch of Super-Hitlers who are 10x worse as Hitler, while being ignorant of that fact. This isn't about not being perfect. Would you describe Hitler as "not being perfect"? No, obviously you agree it was justified and good to kill Hitler and his minions. And his minions weren't even that bad, most of them didn't actively participate in atrocities. You cannot fathom this because you are the one who is biased. To you, killing animals is simply "being imperfect". You don't see it the same as the holocaust, but it is. It's worse, in fact. I'm not rationalizing anything, you don't even know my position. I am just describing your own foolishness back to you, and you are completely blind to it. You are arguing with yourself here.

This is the condundrum: In some ways, I would want a mother to sacrifice her child to save 10 others, especially if amongst those 10 others was my child. However, I recognize that this is naive, it contradicts human nature to such a degree, that expecting this behavior, let alone enforcing in in people, would lead not to a utopia, but the opposite. I also recognize that I would rather sacrifice a thousand children before I sacrifice mine. I would sacrifice all the children on the planet, in fact. That is my nature, there is no point in denying it, as little point as there is in denying the nature of the ant. Demanding of the ant to care about humans is absurd, as absurd as these propositions are that are being thrown around here. It's the childish ramblings of fools who will only stoke the fires of suffering and misery.

This is delusional. Most of the western world still supports Israel, especially the US.

Why would I stop whining about the holocaust? I have my own, clear preferences. When the genocide comes for me, I will cry and act outraged. If Israel killed one of my loved ones in, from their perspective, a justified bombing for a priority Hamas leader, I would still be justified to assassinate Netanjahu and violently resist the Israeli occupation. It's funny how you are missing the entire point of what I am saying and flailing about unable to escape the contracted perspective that I have attempted to describe to you the limitation of. It is obvious to any objective outside observer that Palestinians are engaged in the domination and abuse of a minority group (animals). The only reason you don't see that as problematic is because you benefit from it in some way. We can do the moral calculus and I can describe to you how only a fool wouldn't recognize that, from an objective perspective, the death of any human is a positive thing and will be hard to be framed any other way even with attempted utilitarian addendums. But that would go over your head, I'm sure. I can understand the palestinian seeking to resist the Israeli occupation, and I can understand the Israeli desire for security. Both of them are fools, but no greater fools than those who cannot see what I am elucidating here. The difference between you and them is minor to me.