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As far as I see it you are not aware of the map at all, you are helplessly trapped inside it. You confuse a map in the map for the map.

Saying that he is blending the map with the territory is also blending the map with the territory. You and @Joseph Maynor seem to not yet have developed vision logic, you are not capable of holding paradoxes and logical contradictions. http://www.perspectus.se/tjordan/Vision-logic.html This is a problem that cannot be solved by simply talking about it. You inherently lack a way to perceive the world. This is true by the way for a lot of people in this forum.

No matter what he would say, he would blend the map with the territory. What is "The truth cannot be communicated" but a map?

It's a joke. It wouldn't be funny if you saw.

@Truth Addict Yes, what if Leo is indeed deluded? It seems to me like you do not know, and it seems to me like you are recognizing that you cannot know unless you would discover the truth for yourself. What is the point of asking Leo whether he is deluded? If he was, clearly he wouldn't know, and if he was not, then clearly he could not prove it to you. Whatever he could possibly say could either delude you or urge you to act. Does God exist? Is Leo deluded? What is the difference?

No, no, no. It's not that direct experience can be trusted. It is that trust is a direct experience.

How closely have you looked?

Nobody is shit, only shit is shit. And also, nobody is delusional but delusion itself. Nothing is absurd but absurdity itself. Nothing is impossible but impossibility itself. Everything is connected, literally. But only connection itself is connected. Just look at it, how absurd it is.

Nothing I said had anything to do with what you said. I am saying that only redness is red. No thing is red, but redness. The same is true for everything. It is utterly absurd, just look at it. Trying to make sense out of it will lead to more delusional, as what we speak of is non-sensical, literally. It is literally impossible. JUST LOOK AT IT!

There is no definition of worthness, there can only be worthness. The definition of worthiness is the definition of worthiness, not worthiness itself. You keep confusing two things for being the same. Absurdly delusional, yet it is how all of us view reality. Isn't that funny?

If you truly see worthness for what it is, you will see that it is literally fucking impossible. Reality is literally impossible, everything about it is literally impossible. It is utterly and completely absurd. It's so funny that it is not even funny anymore. For worth to exist it took literally the impossible. Worthness is Divine beyond all comprehension. Just look at it, there is no doubt. To create worthness it took something so powerful, it had to exceed all limitations of power. It took something so intelligent, it had to exceed all limitations of intelligence. It took something so magical, it had to exceed all limitations of magic. And not just worthness, but everything else too. Just looking at it might have you crumble in terror at the Might of that which is Creation. It might just scare you so much that there is nothing else to do but laugh. If worth did not exist we could not be talking about it.

There is precisely one thing that is worth, it is utterly obvious. The only thing that is valuable is value. The only thing that is worth it is worth. Just as much as the only thing to be red is redness, there can be no other thing that could possibly be red but redness. It would be absurd to claim otherwise. Look at how delusional you are. You and everyone else. You keep pointing your fingers at A and you keep saying that it is B. How could anything but value be valuable? How could anything but pain be painful? How could anything but joy be joyful? How could anything but beauty be beautiful? How could anything but anything be anything? You are utterly confused, if you were to be less confused, you would see the impossible. It is happening all the time, right in front of your eyes. No, even better, right within your eyeness.

He might understand thingness as the being of thoughtness itself. He might see: All things are thoughts, because things themselves are thoughts. That which is seen, that which is heard, that which is felt, that is no thing. It is no-thing. It is nothing. It is. It is everything but what we say it is. This is the madness of reality. Just look at it, it's absurd. It's literally impossible (outside the realm of thoughtness/thingness). Making sense of madness can only truly be done by the mad.

Could you explain what you think these groundless assumptions are? You had questions which to me indicated ignorance, if you were not ignorant you would not ask these question. It does not matter whether you deeply care about these issues or not, and again, you seem to be disconnected from these issues. You can care about an idea, yet not about the reality of the idea, which is why you could come up with silly questions such as: What I tried to convey to you is how to acquire a higher perspective. The fact that you have not experienced the truth is precisely why I tried to motivate you to do so. I have misjudged you, I did not expect you to react this emotionally to something that I thought could motivate and help you understand "higher perspective". For that I apologize. And yes, I know nothing. You still seek for someone to give you an answer to something that you can only find for yourself. All we can do is provoke your ego into action, which I seemingly failed at. Notice that you yet again seek an idea, an intellectual answer to something that could not possibly be intellectual. You commit the same ignorance I have described to you in the first post.

Do some reading on this site, best if you read the book: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ You won't be able to feel excited for anything if your brain is not operating properly. Depending on how much porn you are consuming, you brain might look very similar to that of a heroine addict. This should be your first priority, because if you can't let go of that you simply won't have motivation or interest to do anything. You are far from the only one who has this problem.

You might be disconnected from reality. You are thinking about why you should care about an idea without seeing the reality of it. Walk into a slaughterhouse, look at reality, you will very quickly understand why you should care. Walk among those who suffer to experience their suffering. Walk among nature to experience nature. Walk among misery, destruction and death, to experience misery, destruction and death. You are philosophizing about ideas, not truly about reality. If you did, the answer would be fairly obvious to you. You need to humble yourself and consider that there is something you do not see. "But why should I care about these things if I don't care about them?" How could you possibly know if you care about them if you yourself have never seen them? It's like someone saying they don't care about enlightenment. Saying that simply doesn't make sense, no one who is enlightened would say that, only someone who does not know what enlightenment is could ever utter such ignorance. If they were to experience it themselves, they would know without a doubt why to care about it. The true question is why you should not be an ostrich and the answer is because you will suffer for it. Ignorance is not tolerated. Imagine you were talking to someone who came from a war zone and you would ask them why you should care about war. They will know you are delusional, because you conflate your idea of war with what war truly is. You will find the answer if you enter the war zone. You need to grow wise and wisdom comes from experience not mere intellectualization. Where is your curiosity? Where is your desire to know and explore reality? Have you ever seen the environment? Have you ever seen the beauty of a rain-forest, the wide array of experiences that can be had. The life, the infinite intelligence it took to make these things appear out of nothing! You know nothing, Shaun. If you did you would laugh at the depth of your ignorance. "How could I have ever uttered such an absurdity?", you will say. There is so much to this realm it is absolutely magical. If you see the truth the world will look like a fable to you. It will be full of magic, indescribable beauty and fascination. You will feel more deeply for everything and everyone. You will look back at all the fables and the myths and see their truth. Your entire body with shake with ecstasy, there will be no words, but only tears. Each and every leaf, of every branch, of every tree, of every forest will be divine. The animals will be gods walking among your. The air your breath will be life itself. You will be utterly helpless but love it all, and you will know why to care about the environment.

Maybe it is what is meant to be. Remember the story of the Chinese farmer? There are already billions upon billions of causalities, what better way to humble us than to let us experience the full consequences of our actions? We have gotten away so many times with our arrogance, because we believed that mankind could eventually figure it out. How many times will this trick work until we fall on our nose? I feel like we have been given clear rules for this game, there is no mercy for those who are unwilling to adapt. Our capacity to destroy this world is already tremendous, maybe it is better if we fail now than to wait for these capacities to increase to the point of no return. What are we going to learn if we get away with it again? I feel like if mankind ever needed to learn a serious lesson, it was now.

Rationalists have been starting to trigger me more and more these past few months. It's like talking to a child that laughs at you for not believing in Santa Clause. The depth of their ignorance combined with this unbelievable arrogance is just mind-blowing. Their god is rationality, they cannot even consider the possibility that it might be limited or that it could possibly be transcended. I guess it's natural, though it sometimes it's hard to be patient when you know they cannot be convinced, as they believe to be equipped with the ultimate, infallible, unquestionable tool they call reason. I used to think Leo was a little unreasonable with his crusade against materialists, but at this point I wonder how he can stay so composed talking about them. For me it's getting so bad I even get triggered by my own thoughts sometimes. It's like these horror movies where the rationalists keep denying the paranormal even when it becomes completely irrational to do so. The worst is that we have to convince them without the ghosts! We can't show them anything, because as long as they keep their eyes closed they will never, ever be able to see. Why would they look at something that would undermine their god?

I mean look at it! What even is this? It's so WEIRD, everything is SO WEIRD! How are we just sitting here accepting everything as if it made any sense at all? It's completely absurd! It's so hilarious, everything about reality is so much more nonsensical than any conspiracy theory ever could be! Just look around you, what the hell is audio, or vision, or anything else, and how can it even exist? I mean just look at it, it's so insanely WEIRD. Everything is, everything is so weird. It's weird beyond all description. Holy shit it's comedic! How can we be so blind to this absurdity. It's fucking magical, I don't even know what to say. Nothing you could ever come up with is so absurd and ridiculous as everything that already exists. It makes no sense and we all just accept it, as if it was completely reasonable. It's like we are all seeing ghosts and are just ignoring them, but it's so much worse! Just stop for a moment and look at what is happening right now, what the fuck is this? It's not just weird or abnormal, it's literally impossible! It is completely preposterous, it's just ludicrous! Oh my god this is the most hilarious thing ever. How could I be so blind to this? It's literally FUCKING MAGIC! It is so utterly obvious, nothing could be more obvious. It's a cosmic joke, and I am taking it so seriously! Holy fucking shit is reality weird, all of it. It's actually mysterious, it LITERALLY IS MYSTERIOUS! I don't even know what to say, it's just so absurd and we don't even think about questioning it. Flat earth doesn't make sense? Literally nothing makes sense, it's all ABSURD! The fact that anything could possibly make sense is the most absurd thing ever! It's actually a joke, the fucking scariest joke I have ever seen in my life. I am a joke, I literally am a joke.

Understanding Duality - Part 3 was my drug, it just hit me while I watched it

It is so strange, and not just strange as in weird, but also strange as in unfamiliar. There is nothing behind any of this, it is literally is just there.

Enlightenment does not cure ignorance.

For a truth addict you do not really seem to be very interested in the truth.

Look at the world more closely and you will realize it is Divine Will for the slaughter of animals to be inevitably ended. I do not think most people here comprehend the radical compassion future generations will have for all life on this planet. We will all look like barbarians to them, and yet they will still have compassion for us, as they know that we knew no other way. In the future there will be no veganism as it will be part of the consciousness of our civilization. It will require no identification to act in accordance with the greater harmony of reality.

It's the same reason why we have legs, eyes, skin and so forth: Evolution. Those organisms who prioritized survival would procreate, those who not would perish and cease to exist. That's why the ego is so hard to dissolve, it evolved in a way to be stable because those organisms who had a weak ego would not bother as hard to keep surviving.