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I mean the silliness of showing a video of a state that decriminalized all drugs with absolutely zero social safety nets or accounting for potential problems, to then say that the libs have gone to far with weed decriminalization, it's beyond me how someone saying such things can be taken seriously. It's just so blatantly and childlike reactionary. There is just no depth to the thinking, or even an attempt to look at the topic in a more wholistic manner. No, lets take the most extreme, worst example of a thing and base our intuitions on that. Just look at the comments in the video, lol. It's all MAGAs relishing in the suffering to self-affirm their conservatism.

You americans are weak willed and deserve him.

@Leo Gura You are like a child in how you evaluate this. You move from one extreme to another. You advocate for the death penalty to bring "seriousness" back to society, as if that was not a completely and utterly bonkers and absurd position. And now you speak about weed as if you don't understand the basic mechanics of social evolution. Yes, weed can be harmful. Alcohol can be harmful, casual sex can be harmful. Video games can be harmful. But what is more harmful and stunts social growth entirely is irrational stigma and criminalization. That ruins lifes as well. The lack of empathy it requires makes society worse on a systemic and wholistic level. Every new freedom is abused, every new responsibility must be recognized. And this takes time. It takes education and the creation of systems which account for these new freedoms and risks. The problem is not that weed isn't stigmatized and criminalized. That ruins lives as well. Look at South Korea, a society in which celebreties commit suicide because they get collectively bullied after having been caught smoking a joint. That is barbaric and speaks of a deeply sick and dysfunctional society (which in the case of South Korea, you can see manifest in various forms). The solution here is to not trivialize the risks and have a mature view of these sorts of things. Over time society tends to adapt to new freedoms. But yes, when you do give individuals new freedom, there will be a period of mistake-making and elevated harm. Which does not mean that in the long run, society will not adapt and grow because of this. Remember, in the end freedom is what leads to evolution. If the government just says "You can't do this period" there is no need for growth. Growth is necessary the moment you are given a freedom that will come with consequences if you abuse it, or fail to recognize your responsibility. The suffering that will come from that will lead the growth necessary to develop a higher order of autonomous and conscious thinking. It is the difference between a society which disciplines its citizens, and a society which grows individuals who learn to self-discipline. One is clearly more evolved than the other. The question is, as is the case with a child, how mature is your society in relation to the freedoms it can be granted? Some freedom is necessary for growth, too much freedom at once, given lack of development, can lead to devastation, obviously. But in the case of weed, this is not the case. Many people will suffer, and then many people will learn, and we will have become more mature as a society as a result. No longer will rigid authority be required, and instead consciousness can make decisions autonomously. Looking at the video, it should be very obvious that this is a problem of mentally ill people not being taken care of at all. The systemic problem here is far deeper than just drugs, even though drugs seem to make it obviously worse. (although that might be arguable given that these individuals might feel like their lifes would be even more unlivable without them) You clearly have individuals whose lifes and minds are just utter misery. They have nothing to live for, nobody who cares about them. Just in the video many of them said they specifically came to Oregon because it became decriminalized there. You won't resolve the issue by criminalizing drugs, you will just make it less visible. The fundamental problem is Leo, that you seem to have a difficult time engaging with these sorts of social topics in general because you basically lack empathy entirely. This is evident in almost every social issue I have seen you deal with, including conversations you had with others, interviews, your dating strategies, how you dealt with things like suicide in the community, ethics in general and various other discussions about social policies. You have a hyperintellectual approach that is exceptionally self-centered. Disorder to you is disgusting, pathetic and a nuisance. This is even evident in the post on the blog, in which you say you personally never engage in weed recreationally, nor alcohol, and therefore nobody should and it's basically evil and probably should be criminalized. It comes at no cost to you, of course, so it's easy to simply say that individuals should be imprisoned amd stigmatized for owning something like weed. You don't care about personal freedoms in a fundamental sense, and lack foundational empathy for humans and animals, and their individuality, because you are stuck in your identity that revolves around higher consciousness and spiral development, much of which seems to be fueled by a sort of narcissism you seem to be unaware of. I will repeat these points because I do think you have a significantly negative impact on some individuals precisely because of your lack of awareness thereof.

Timestamped. Very funny, this is exactly what you did in the interaction here.

Conservative want to imprison, demonize and shame anyone who smokes or is addicted to weed, as well as ban all usage of weed because it's demonic to them. What you see is the falling away of conservatism, not the opposite. Meanwhile, conservatives are perfectly okay with alcohol, which kills tens of thousands of people in car accidents alone every year, and destroys countless more lifes.

Racism is not a european thing. What an absurd thing to say. There is no such thing as "europeans" as a collective anyways, that is a generalizing term that has little to do with the reality of what the different ethnic and cultural groups in europe are. The reason why Christian colonizers focused on race so much has deeper historical reasons, and has nothing at all to do with the "whiteness" of europeans. Colonialism was spured on by scientific advancement and competition between nation states. To make it about europe or whiteness obscures any true understanding of how these things came to be, and might come to be in the future.

What is racist about this is that you attribute all the buzzwards above to the color of someones skin. You are literally using an immutable characteristic of several groups of people, many of which have been victims of all of the above, to justify a generalization about human beings. If most rapists were black, it wouldn't make it any less racist to talk about rape being a "black" phenomena. Being white doesn't make one ANYTHING. It is only in your racist, indocrinated head that the color of someone skin is in any shape or form relevant to anything other than describing the mind of a racist, which you are. You are just describing how you come to your racism. It's like you simply fundamentally lack the ability to comprehend what racism is and why it is irrational, immature and evil. Why are you focusing and making this about skin color? Where do you think the term "slave" comes from in the first place? Who do you think, for hundreds of years, ran the greatest slave trades in the world? Again, you can't justify your racism with racism, that's assinine.

There is no such thing as "White people", that's a racist notion. There are several ethnic groups in europe that have white skin color, many of them had zero to do with colonialization and in fact were victims of imperialism. There is no such thing as a "white european identity", that's an american concept.

This is racist. There is no such thing as "White Europeans", By virtue of generalizing them this way you are engaging in an act of generalizing individuals by literally the color of their skin. This isn't even what race is. The slavs for example were considered subhuman by both the anglosaxons and various other "white" groups. Even the celts considered the slavic people as subhuman for a significant peroid of time. And there is various ethnic groups in europe that have white skin color that obviously cannot be generalized into "Whiteness" in any meaningful sense of the term other than being victims of Roman or Judeo-Christian imperialism. The reality is that imperialism expands itself through identity. The South Americans were imperialistic, Asians were imperialistc, the mediterraneans were very imperialistic. Imperialism can be found viritually everywhere historically speaking. Whiteness is a very modern, american notion that is completely divorced from the history of colonization. Colonizers didn't consider themselves "white", but whatever their ethnic group was. They considered themselves superior. Just like the Han Chinese today view themselves as a superior racial group. They don't think all asians are like them. They don't even think all chinese people are like them. Superiority thinking is not reducable to this very specific and simplistic american view of blackness and whiteness.

The problem here is that I was making a point about the limitations around vigilantism and why it is unproductive and harmful, and you came in to state a truism that "Perceived injustice leads to uproar". This contends with absolutely nothing. It just describes what is happening with the implicit validation of that thing. Yes, I understand that if a vegan goes on a terrorist killing spree of meat-eaters, that this will be because of injustice. It doesn't make it any less irrational and harmful. I never claimed that #MeToo wasn't because of injustice or that it wasn't important, I was specifically speaking to a person on this forum who was justifying to himself vigilantism, which you implicitly condoned by responding to me with the truism you stated. "Well it happens for a reason." Yes everything happens for a reason. Nazi germany happened for a reason, it happened for this exact reason in fact, perceived and partially real injustice.

Again, I would recommend informing yourself on who this person was. If you think that this person is anything but an opportunistic sociopath you are naive. It's naive on the level of saying that maybe Trump is actually good hearted and all of what he is doing is just his attempt of making the world a better place, albeit he is just ignorant.

Ah yes, moving the substance of a conversation into a meaningless repetition of a truism. You literally are saying nothing of meaning here, do you even realize that? Nothing of value was provided to the discussion.

There are people who took plenty of psychedelics who will take hormones. If God and his creation is perfection, then the desire of the transsexual is also perfection. His actions to change his body and take hormones are perfection, because all of that cannot be a mistake, given that God made it so. See how you apply your logic selectively? It is a perversion of God's will, you should be ashamed that you even put him in his mouth given you are insulting him by conflating his intelligence with your ignorance. Thankfully God made it all so in the end he is insulting himself.

You are moving the goalpost. The claim you initially made was that people will take things into their own hands if the laws fail. The laws are not what is failing here, it is society. This is why the whole vigilante thing is absurd and unproductive. Yes, we live in a deeply sick culture. We objectify individuals by consuming their excretions, raping them so that they provide us with milk, killing their children and we repeat this cycle until the individuals reproductive system has been so exploited that it no longer provides us with any value. I am well aware of rape culture and the extend to which it permeates all of society. The reason why the vigilantism is not a good idea is because, if you were to ever apply ethics in an even remotely consistent way, you would justify terrorism and atrocities you probably would not be as fond of after realizing they would be committed against you, because you are one of the objectifiers, one of the supremacists. When I say these attitudes are dysfunctional and dangerous, I do not do so because I think society is not as bad as you think. I do so because society is far worse than most people can imagine. And those who lack that imagination are the very individuals who would have to face judgement if their standards were applied in any measure of justice.

It doesn't make her any less morally depraved and dispicable. She knew exactly what type of person Elon Musk was. There is a history to this person that is relevant to this, in that she was basically a staunchly conservative woman who criticized the very behavior she is engaging in. Yes Elon has an obligation to pay for the child, there is no quesiton that he is a despicable human being. But creating a life with a person you know did this over and over again, so that you can enrich yourself, is orders of magnitudes worse than what Elon is doing here.