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Thanks for the support. Yes I do view crypto as an alternative way to do transactions, but not necessarily better. But since it is based on consensus, then the people themselves decide whether adoption will be rapid or will die out. Regarding human love, yes that is also source of happiness for me

Hello, @Leo Gura, I could write this in private, but maybe it will be useful for others. So to give some context, I have a computer programming degree, started coding at 15 (I am 25), and started watching Leo at around 14-15. Leo made a huge impact on me. Starting with Life purpose and following other spiritual explorations. Now I take C level position at a local SaaS, whom I joined at the early stages and together we managed to make it a success and employ 50+ people. I made a fortune myself, but during all this time I was doing a lot myself, doing it very passionately and seeing a complexity and beauty in software, design and building robust ecosystems. I always had this negative reaction towards hiring people and making them work as slaves, I don't know where that came from, maybe my natural inclination towards independence (at least independence of the tasks, thoughts). 2 years ago I have also co-founded a DeFi startup (crypto, blockchain, yea I know) and from what I saw you have a negative stance on that, labeling it as a scam industry. Bro, why can't you see a beauty in DeFi? Having your own private keys, contributing to liquidity pools. Just check projects like uniswap, aave protocol, look at how interchangeable they are, it is similar to your videos about holons. Also, you keep always talking about social contructs, etc. Well, what is money? A total social construct, it's laughable. Especially value, which is intangible thing and vastly relative, depending on many factors. Now I made a success again in terms of financial aspect. But here is my internal struggle appears or perhaps it always was. If you actually check, you will see that I have messaged you like 7 years ago, asking on career direction. Now, look - I did archieve what I always dreamed and loved (I imagine you also love game design in a similar way). My struggle is that, your posts on your blog and also in forum make it look like that success is evil. I do get, and to be honest I do agree, how delusional in some aspects I have also become. But still I feel purpose is essential, and what is wrong with building software or blockchain projects which don't even need marketing. People use them themselves. And I do know about the scams, but some protocols are already 5+ years in and actually growing in adoption and value. And believe me, people there understand all the dirty stuff of traditional finance, etc. Now it got into a point where I am constantly negative, reduced my socialization even more, having depressed moods. I do exercise and play tennis at a competitive level, but have 0 success finding girlfriend. I could use money to get more fame, build bigger social circle, but I don't want to. If people don't value my work ethic, my character- why should I try to bribe them? It is beyond disgusting. Also, who knows, maybe I look like a child for females, still have to learn a lot. So yeah, my point of being is that I am very very confused on how to make a distinction between your life purpose, doing it consciously and not being a corrupted. And also, for all these 7 years I always had a hinge that you seem to miss how evil and manipulative people are. Especially in business. I saw a post where you also concluded it, so I am happy for you. And that is also kinda my approach - to understand manipuliations, understand greed and try to remind yourself that. But also try to love others. One more thing. I am more sensitive than others from the childhood. I think that played a part in me being to depressed about the state of the world. And now it feels to me that you became complete nihilistic which leads nowhere or just harming yourself. And yes I did mushrooms, meditate, had profound realizations and try to continue to do so. Also saw your video on solipsism. What it did - was to distance myself from the people even more.

Thanks, avery clear message and explanation. I will trust my intuition more ; improve my reasoning & maybe won't rush that much, but rather slowly digest new things

@Leo Gurabringing again 👌

One trip in the nature induced a major panic attack. 2-3 months was feeling less grounded and "out of body". I think I need more integration, not new experiences - I already have a vivid imagination 😅

Had exactly same reaction, which triggered my own post. Thanks for voicing it.

@jimwell Thanks for sharing 🙌 Indeed, they are necessarily. I am still amazed by Leo's negative view on crypto... As a dev before, he should atleast try to check DeFi platforms or some gaming apps himself instead of basing his opinion on other peoples's opinion 😅 And "value" is inheritely subjective. Some people don't want more fancy tech or build a company which does real stuff: foods (processed and poisoned most often, with those heavy metals). Some of us, just want to live regular lives without much possession but with an option to track more on chain instead of relying on some outside parties to handle money for us.

Yes! Also, if we check history the false ideas and implementation in crypto (Luna, celcius, ftx) collapsed, while valid DeFi ideas: aave, uniswap, makerDao, etc. remained. It is true that crypto coins attract money, but in reality every business tries to build a MOAT and by doing so blocks ways for other enterprises, thus accumulating money only for it's own sake. Same is in crypto - your projects attracts money, other projects loose traction, coin falls and we have an ever lasting flow of money from one coin, person to another. All this leads to new frameworks and growth of blockchain sector. In highly conscious society a concept of money will cease to exists. All that matters is innovation. Now a huge problem is that, even if you have legit ideas, you are blocked by existing companies, creating a difficult entry. You get VCs money who care about making their bags grow. Unless you can boostrap with money from others (kickstarter), but thats also stealing in a sense. For the good of society, money as a concept should probably not exist at all. Look at the worldwide issues. Some are driven by greed, it might just look "nice" and labeled as innovation, but it still has to make money. Crypto world exposes the selfishness of the traditional banking system really well, too. Actually in order to build legitimate systems in DeFi you need to be more smarter than banking people.

Probably yes. For instance I wasn't poisoned with heavy metals, but I've received pericarditis (inflammation of heart muscle tissue) after Moderna vaccine. It was a very rare case, probably because I was 21 years old when I took it. I've used traditional anti inflammatory medicine - it helped, but there still was lingering pain. What helped me to recover fully (both clinically, though I did not have MRI) but actually in senses too - was deep meditational experiences. I was practicing chi gong and mastered reiki, thus healed myself after 2-3 months. Crazy stuff but you can read yourself. It takes time to master reiki, and probably not everyone has healing abilities - but it worked. The way I can explain logically, how it works is that there is lingering inflammation (same with metal toxicity) in the body, in the celural level and whenever you experience deep states of awareness you feel extreme heat (similar after fasting), and that heat restores your body to the state which you kinda created in the first place as God consciousness. It is actually logical 😁

Well crypto is a very tough topic... I myself practice meditation, had few awakenings (thank you Leo, again ♥️), psychedelics trips. Yet, co-founded a web3 company (DeFi), we have bootstrapped ourselves and now making 20-30k per month in profits. I would agree that majority of people are in crypto for profits. Greed. If you check VCs moves, you will see that they are picking up crypto because new web3 companies can quickly build up the necessary MOAT to generate cash flow. Largest stablecoin (Tether) generated 2.85B in profits in 2023. Also, majority have this emotional anger against the current capitalist structure and think that rich basically screw everyone other, so they don't have a choice - and build their skills in crypto to take over their share & drag everyone. With mine situation - it is not that we earn money by trading. We've built a legitimate dApp with smart contracts. As a programmer, it is indeed enjoyable activity. I can't predict where the market will go & whether all cryptos crash (BTC, ETH probably already have a place as store of value) and web3 becomes useless, but the trend of VCs money flowing will continue. Majority of money also comes from saudi, asia, USA. Also I disagree with Leo, that crypto is useless. By this logic we can tell that some of the "real" companies are even worse (tobacco, junk food). Labeling something as low/high consciousness is very difficult. We could say crypto is high consciousness because even if people lose money they learn about fraud in finance and banking, which exists in many places and in traditional finance. Also, they come in crypto for greed. If you have some questions - I am open to answer 👌

Ok, so I was very hesitant of taking Covid vaccine since I am very young and athletic and have very strong immune system. I did not want to take it, but after reading @Leo Gura encouragement in the blog I still stook it... I took the first shot and it made my heartbeat go up. It all returned back to the normal. Then I was in doubt for a month and still took the second shot, out of fear. And then was diagnosed with pericarditis... This is very serious disease. 5 months passed I still feel symptoms, can't workout. Moral of the story don't listen to anybody, Leo or someone else. Listen to your body. I would also advise Leo stop spreading false and unproven info about covid or vaccines. You are not biochemist, you don't understand how different our bodies are. Many athletes got issues from this vaccine. I know this sounds very emotional, but please Leo think about how your advices can inpact people and etc. Covid vaccines especially mRNA are very dangerous for young male people, because of the spike protein. Swedish banned them, other countries will follow. Also all my life I never took drugs, eat very clean food and had good energy levels. One vaccine made permanent damage. How can you call this vaccine safe, when such damages occur? If you are so smart, then please suggest some advices on how to treat it, because guess what - the conventional medicine I took did not heal me fully. However, I feel you rather ban this thead than actually providing a response...

I think it is not a conspiracy. Just the creators of vaccine don't have a high consciousness. Human health is mystery, they are clueless and yet use vaccine. Take the Moderna example. Innitialy it was good, now they claim it is bad for young people. I am actually baffled how ignorant they are. This game me a lesson to never trust low consciousness people and inventions again.

Thanks for the support all of you! Thanks for information! I am actually sorry for @Leo Gura... If it wasn't for Leo, I would be in much worse place. Maybe I just needed to create this negative post... It was deviled act, I know it. Regarding my condition, I got the conventional treatment from the doctors - strong antiflamantory, no colchicine, because they did not administer it in Lithuania for some reason. Right now my condition is indeed much better, I have done echo and stress test past month - I am healed, but still feel some presssure, but no pain. I will have MRI scan soon to check final condition and whether scaring exists. After I have full information I will create a new post. Ironically this whole painful experience lead me to the most spiritual development and multiple awakenings. I also did natural healing, reiki and etc. Will share full information. I wanted to make this post much earlier, but I was hesitant. Today I feel much better, but still wake up and had some chest pressure so emotions triggered my ego backlash. I think we can lock this thread, until I will have full info and can share it with all of you Much love and sorry for my angry message, I am actually in tears right now ?

No.. I was aware of this.

wow thank you! Will check them

So, roughly a month has passed since the previous update... Guess what, just 20 minutes ago I had this experience once more time. So as you know I was diagnosed with pericarditis after 2 Moderna covid vaccine shot ( I am 22 years old male, was very athletic before). During that time I learned about energy healing, bought a 500 dollars course, and did energy healing on myself ( as well as prescribed medicine + anti-inflammatory diet). Went to a doctor on Monday, we did a heart performance test, where I needed to cycle for a given time to see how my heart adapts to stress. The doctor concluded that I am healed and can continue exercising. I don't feel pain at all, so it seems that my acute pericarditis has been healed. I am still waiting for the MRI on December 11, which will conclude it finally. I am confident I am fully treated. Ok enough about that. So today is the 4 days since I did not jerk off. As I mentioned in the first post the semen is very very important to me. So I watched porn, masturbated without ejaculations, and had an internal orgasm (basically an orgasm without ejaculation). After that about 2 hours later I started meditating. Basically, it took me 5-10 minutes to again experience direct consciousness. My physical ego presence disappeared, the fear returned, my heart started pounding to the point I thought I will definitely die this time. I was infinite consciousness for about a minute. During that time, the time stopped for sure. However, I could return, like willingly holding onto my body. After the experience passed, my apple watch showed 130 beats ( during that time, it was definitely 160-180 beats). Still, the feeling that I am everything persists. The energy in my head, also when I close my eyes it is very difficult to stay in the body. During this month, I read the Sadhguru book: "Enlightenment an inside story". He explicitly mentions in the book. This is the excerpt from the book: " “Sadhguru: If you are not aware of this, I would say for 90% of the people, their moment of Enlightenment and the moment of leaving the body are the same. You will never see them again. Only a few people have the possibility of keeping the body even after Enlightenment, for a certain period of time. Otherwise, there may be only some time, maybe one or two hours, maybe four hours of extra time, that is all. Beyond that, they cannot keep it. “Very few people retain their body because they know the tricks of the body, they know the mechanics of the body to hold on to it. Otherwise, the moment of realization and the moment of leaving the body is same. Generally it is only people who are on the path of Kriya Yoga who can hold on to the body because they understand the mechanics of the body. They know all the tricks of the body so they hold on to the body.” ” Excerpt From Enlightenment an inside story Sadhguru This material may be protected by copyright. I never heard @Leo Gura address it. Why is that? Do you know about this? So what did I decide? Since I am 22 years old, have my financials set, I don't want my physical body to stop functioning due to full enlightenment. I will do the kriya yoga for now fully and stop meditating or even coming close to that. I would definitely welcome any guidance from people who are fully enlightened or who experienced this. I may sound angry, I am not. Actually, I just understood how grateful should I be to come this far... Even writing this it is very difficult to not merge with infinite consciousness again. It seems if I wanted I could.

wow thanks! Have you found your teacher online, or is it a live practice?

Thank you! Yes heart inflammation was very challenging for me I am not against vaccines per say, but after Sweden has banned moderna for young people, it is very clear that it is not suitable for young people. Or maybe it was just all part of the greater plan, which in return taught me about all energy work, which I might have not found otherwise.

You can read my story. I got very profound awakening/close to permanent enlightenment through raw meditation and contemplation. Though I am not meditating for 3 weeks now, since I need to learn Kriya yoga, otherwise my physical body might stop functioning.

Creativity. In my case it is in programming, spiritual experiences and also in science it acts as discovery.

I did. I am not sure why @Leo Gura ignores it, I would like to get his opinion. can someone tag him?

Hello, I am just speechless... Basically, this happened an hour ago I believe. For the second time in two weeks, this occurred in my meditation session, I will break down it in the stages. These steps occurred 2 weeks ago for the first time. I had some non-dual experiences for the 3-4 years as of now, not that strong. My thoughts disappear in meditation. Then I try to be conscious about the presence ( it is like pressure, but I am aware of it) ( I refer to "I" as a self, but I am not sure what I was, perceiver) Then the third step occurred, like the 2 weeks ago. The moment occurred, when the perceiver disappear. I could not find it. That moment the pressure was built into my head. The warm sensation. The perceiver definitely disappeared but somehow two weeks ago I came back. Now, this is what happened today. I came to the 3 steps, but this time the pressure kept rising. It kept rising to the moment when I ceased to exist and I was lost. Like in the literal sense. The best explanation I could refer to is that even though I meditated in the dark it was like a hole, the infinite hole, and I was not a center of it, but like the whole hole. Now the additional steps were present: 4. My heart was exploding, like physically, my heart was pounding crazy. I don't know if it is healing energy or what, because I was diagnosed with pericarditis. More about it here. 5. My physical body was collapsing and most importantly I could not stop it. My logical mind did not stop existing, it somehow recalled the speech from Sadguru, which said that during enlightenment the physical body dies, unless you have some kind of amulet with yourself. The most fascinating part is that I was alright. It did not make any difference. Like complete acceptance. 6. My eyes still closed, it was acceptance. At that moment my logical mind showed images of me being a very old guy, again memories from Sadguru and his enlightenment journey. Still, I was satisfied. The heart did not stop beating crazy, the body was not present at all, heart-pounding was a pure sensation 7. Still, I did not die. Though tears were falling because if it was death even my logical mind was satisfied. I did not fear any sense of fear, I was just crying that such a thing is possible. The thing is that I could stay in that state forever. I did partially lose the sense of time. Partially I refer to like time stops, but still so-called existing, don't know how to refer it. Like I could be satisfied if 100 years passed from this point onwards. 8. I consciously opened my eyes. My body is still shaking, the heartbeat showing 100 beats per second, at the enlightment/awakening moment I did not have an Apple watch, it was charging. it was maybe 180 beats per second. 9. I could not stand correctly. After turning the lights on, some fear from logical mind returned - idea that I will never be able to see. Also, I went to the mirror and somehow expected to look like an old guy ( I am 22 though). Though no emotions from me. 10. I closed my eyes again. Again the world disappears. I then opened my eyes. It felt like if I close my eyes I am dead. It was not fear, but somehow I felt motivated to work on, and don't just die. So I decided to write it down here since I don't know another community. I am not sure if I am fully enlightened. Though it feels like I can close my eyes and merge again, the feeling is fading. Perhaps I should explore consciousness more. The pain in my heart seems gone, somehow I always believed in healing and I am doing reiki healing together with conventional medicine. I have just one more question. If it is ok for my physical body to collapse? I can't call it dying, since, in the infinite hole as I described, the body was not present. Only heartbeat sensation, sensation in the head. No such thing as body. Now I even laugh, because it is absurd: body seems like an image to me now. The collapse does not make me feel bad, but somehow my logical mind tells me, maybe I need to take some precautions? I am not familiar with the body changes which seem to occur to me. So this is the only question I have. I know that I have to do a lot of reading, but I also remember Leo saying to not be stuck in the reading and do practice and self-inquiry. One unique thing about me: It seems I have an extreme focusing ability. Since childhood I practiced staring at objects, my mother said I was sitting in meditation poses without breathing. Also, I started to do yoga, 2 months ago with some breathing exercises. Found local community, with surprisingly conscious teacher She is like a mother. Also, I never took psychedelics, since it is difficult to get them in my country. I don't want to get along with people, who can deliver it to me. One more thing. I feel a little bit of shame, but before meditating today I built my sexual energy. I watched porn, visualized, but no cumming. I did not cum for 2 weeks as of today. After that, I almost feel the energy coming to my spine. Very very effective, but very difficult, I am getting better at that. Thinking about it, maybe I can't do it, because my body will indeed collapse? I am going to sleep, though I feel like the body somehow will collapse. Though after writing about the amulet, I do have a bracelet on my left hand (red rope with an eye). I don't know if it is dark night of the soul. It is more like an actual belief that my body will collapse, though I don't feel fear. Also, I love Leo. He is like a father to me. I wrote to him like 4 years ago, doubting my career choice. I am open to interviews maybe since it is difficult to express my ideas... Since I am tech-savvy I already wanted to start an Instagram account related to business, programming, investment, and also meditation.

I know, still, it is not practical for the physical body to die. I can be "useful" for society.

@Leo Gura I read the Sadhguru book about enlightenment. He clearly stated that people who reach full enlightenment will die before age of 32 (their physical body stops functioning). The only way is to practice kriya yoga and get full control of the body. Did you know about that?

Yes, I already experienced that detachment and I even feel it after 5 days. I referred to my in a relative sense :). Ok I decided to keep meditating then @Leo Gura Any help?