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I definitely agree with this to a large extent. LSD, in particular, comes with so much 'baggage' like the time dilation, visual hallucinations, weird delusional thoughts and thought-loops. And there is a distinct lack of clarity with LSD, I found. A high dose of 5-MeO is Infinitely more intense, powerful, crystal clear, and profound. @Psychventure I'd say yes, but in a way that is hard to put into words. The background context for 'this' has permanently shifted resulting in a subtle but significant difference in experience of suffering and life in general. Generally speaking, the personality, your insecurities, habits etc remained pretty much exactly the same. However on a more subtle level, an opening or a partial breaking down of the sense of individuality occurred. I call it a 'softening of the ego', where by the edges of 'me' have been relaxed. A sense of being 'held' and being perfectly 'in place' within Reality has also arisen, which is very pleasant. I have certainly experienced very blissful bodily sensations since my full God breakthrough, however I wouldn't say this has improved the quality of my life. This was not the case prior to the breakthrough doses, but my life circumstances did significantly improve over the same period so that may have contributed towards it as well.

Props to the guys for bringing Sadhguru onto their show. Even if half the conversation is cringe as hell, better to have Sadhguru than Alex Jones again. There's moments in the interview where Logan pulls back the comedy and laughing and is genuinely trying to ask serious questions and have a somewhat serious conversation. The problem is, i've never really liked Sadhguru's style of teaching. It's so indirect and muddied with eastern religion. If anything this conversation probably made them even more confused about spirituality. I think what they need is a really down to earth non-duality teacher who can give them some straight, direct answers.

Ambient music is my favourite contemplation music. The spaciousness and lack of linear structure instantly puts me into a more open and free flowing state of consciousness. But I often go suuper ambient, like Chihei Hatakeyama:

@SpYITB Other people here have said what needs to be said, but i'll chip in just because God Infinity realised itself here around 4 months ago. So 'I can talk from experience'. First of all, ACTUAL Infinity has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with mathematics or numbers. Just throw this idea out. Numbers are a tiny tiny tiny facet of Infinity but will ultimately dissolve into Infinity at the highest states of consciousness. All symbols, numbers, languages, equations, models etc ALL collapse totally into Infinity and are seen to be completely meaningless. No mathematics or science will ever ever ever get you to Infinity - literally impossible. Regarding the question about whether I understand what infinity is - 100% YES!! A total realisation of ACTUAL Infinity, or Infinity ITSELF, is radically unmistakable. It's the most intense radical state of consciousness possible. Utterly beyond anything imaginable. You do not end the trip thinking "Hmm I wonder if that was Infinity, maybe a little bit Infinite". No! It's ACTUAL Infinity realising itself! There's absolutely not a shred of self or ego who 'experiences Infinity'. Infinity cannot be experienced in any way possible. It is not an experience, sensation, feeling, thought, intuition, perception, insight, or anything BUT ITSELF. There is a total collapse of ALL dualities, leaving nothing but Infinity Being itself. Infinity is also = Eternity. So when Infinity realises itself, or when Infinity realises itself as YOU, you also realise you are Eternal and have been forever and will be forever. Honestly the realisation of Actual Eternity was equally if not more shocking than the Infinite 'aspect'.

@Adamq8 Always loved Frank's videos. I actually enjoy the fact that two people I watch disagree. Makes everything more uncertain for me and i'm less likely to adopt a certain set of beliefs. Makes me realise I don't know who's right, so it's up to me to discover the truth. One thing i've always liked about his videos is the 360 view effect he does on his footage. Looks exactly like the non-euclidean perspective video on Leo's blog.

All these recent posts and discussions surrounding heavy metal poisoning are very interesting. I've been suffering from a range of symptoms over the past 4 or 5 years, all very similar to what are described in the above video and on the cutler success stories page. I've managed to cure some of the issues simply by cutting out most sugars in my diet plus various herbal supplements, but i'm not 100% by any means. Very interesting that candida is mentioned a lot in peoples reports, as I have been suffering from a chronic candida infection for a number of years now. Don't worry i'm not going to jump into anything without doing the proper research beforehand. I had to go to the dentist yesterday and I asked whether any of my fillings (drank lots of sugary drinks as a teenager and fucked my teeth up) contained metal. Thankfully only 2 of them do, so I plan on getting these swapped out as soon as possible (Relatively cheap here in the UK). Unfortunately one of them is massive and goes right next to the tooth nerve so I may end up having to have a root canal just to get the metal filling swapped out. It'll be worth it in the long run though, i'm sure. I'm going to get a mineral hair test first - would be good to know if I do actually have some level of metal toxicity or not.

Honestly I think you're gonna have a hard time finding a teacher who will motivate you like this. The best answer to your question is, you guessed it, psychedelics! Work your way up to 30mg of 5-MeO-DMT, realise Actual Eternal God Infinity and you'll have all the motivation you'll ever need. In all the spiritual teachers i've watched and listened to (aside from Leo) I could probably count on one hand the amount of times they've inspired me to do spiritual work. How often do you hear other teachers talking about having a desire for Truth? Except maybe Ralston, but he's painfully dry most of the time. I find most teachers are way too abstract and kinda ungrounded in their teachings. Leo tells it like it is, without much of the fluff. You either sit down and do the work or you don't. How often do you hear Rupert Spira, Tolle, or Mooji saying "Stop fucking about! Cultivate a genuine desire for the Truth. Sit down and do the work!". When God Infinity was completely realised (with the aid of 5-MeO) the need for an external 'motivator' dropped away quite significantly, permanently. Reality, Infinity, Eternity itself becomes the motivator, the teacher. You become your own motivator.

@aurum Nice to see you back dude!

@Vrubel Work your way up to 25-30mg. Don't stop until Eternal Infinity realises itself.

Yea i'm not bashing the guy, he's on the right tracks for sure. Yet at the same time, any discussion of God in the context of philosophy is really a waste of time and just creates more confusion. Well I never said language was useless. It serves an important role in our collective self survival. When it comes to personal development and discussing spiritual theory we need language. But when it specifically comes to explaining the nature of God, which is what the video is about, using language will simply never work. Alan Watts is nice but his teachings are limited.

This is true, yet I could also say that saying nothing at all would be more useful. When actual God Infinity is staring right back at you the idea of language or trying to explain the nature of anything with meaningless symbols and sounds become radically obsolete and laughably ridiculous. God is so beyond anything the guy is saying in the video.

@Focus Shift Seems like an intelligent and curious guy, but also seems kinda lost in all the theory. He's beating around the bush and eventually all the talking becomes tedious. You just want him to say, 'You are actual fucking God! I am literally God!'. He spent 20 minutes talking about God but it's literally all nonsense, because all language, symbols and ideas are totally totally meaningless and not it.

@ivankiss Lovely - thank you.

Not at all, I have been following Frank for years and have carefully listened to what he has to say prior to and after his awakenings. Combined with having studied dozens of other teachers and awakened people I have a strong sense that his awakenings are genuine and sincere. The way he phrases and communicates his insights suggests to me that they are coming from direct experience and not belief. I've never come across someone who has convincingly faked a deep enlightenment. It's basically impossible. Your whole demeanor and appearance changes, its quite obvious. This is just silly. You're creating a duality between what you think are spiritual activities and non-spiritual activities. Everything is wonderfull, blissfull and divine from the highest perspective - even working out and building muscle and taking 1000 photos to show how sexy you are.

Definitely some truth in this. Hard to un-see Infinity once it has been seen. I've followed Frank's videos and social media stuff quite closely for a few years now, so i'm familiar with his awakenings and psychedelic usage. If i'm honest, i'm skeptical that he's at the total God Infinity that occurs at 30mg 5-MeO. You couldn't really function properly long term in that peak state. There would be no reason to do anything because all there is Pure Infinity. I dno, maybe he is there all the time haha. He seems woke as fuck nowadays.

@confused No, spend your teens and early twenties building a strong healthy ego. Work towards some career success, dating, health etc. But you would also do yourself a lot of good by implementing a daily meditation habit.

@Gesundheit Dude, your way over thinking this. Stop wasting your time.

@knoansw Whilst this is a thoughtful post with genuine intention, sports related posts are not really in line with the focus and general themes of this particular forum.

Interesting report. Two questions: Did you realise actual God Infinity during the 5-MeO sessions? and did you have any body tremors, shaking, energy releases? I find it hard to believe that God can be fully realised yet result in no baseline change to one's consciousness.

Theres plenty of examples of people changing their habits and bad addictions after having used psychedelics. I've seen, read and heard of lots of cases of this. However, when people say that psychedelics changed their life they are not really talking about changing habits or addictions. What they're talking about is a shift in context for life in general, or a specific moment/event in their life. Life is seen through a new lense. So the content can largely stay the same, the personality unchanged for example, which is why giving details is sometimes very difficult. But the underlying context for life in general or for a specific traumatic experience has radically shifted. This is why Leo has referred to awakening as a radical recontextualisation.

No one is perfect, we all make mistakes and write things that in hindsight may have been inappropriate. There is a big difference between this and someone intentionally trolling, not being open minded, trying to create friction and arguments for the sake of self amusement etc. Usually Leo's harsh words come from a place of wanting the other user to wake the fuck up and stop being so damn ignorant - it's really an expression of love and empathy, like a zen master wacking you on the back with a wooden stick.

@SunCat Dude, just let it go. There's so many more things you could be spending your time doing, rather than trying to convince a bunch of people on a forum that your beliefs are true. This isn't the place for that.

Well there is nothing more radical than God, so thats understandable. You give someone a >25mg dose without any prior experience and they will freak the fuck out. Yes you're right, sorry I should have been more specific. The doses I mentioned are plugged.

Low dose (<15mg) 5-MeO is not really that intense or difficult. The effects are very very mild at that dose, in my experience. 5-6g of mushrooms would be far more challenging. At 20mg 5MeO thats were the ego starts to properly uncontract, which can be quite disconcerting. 25mg = full ego death and oneness, but still not quite God. 30mg = ACTUAL GOD. So, slowly ramp up the dose.

I have vowed never to snort another substance up my nose ever again. Each to their own, I see the pros and cons. Interesting! Every increase in dose I have done has been increasingly more intense - exponentially. I have been using the same batch the whole time however.