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There is a certain similarity between the enlightened person and the madman. The madman has gone through a breakdown but he is out of the mind. The enlightened person has gone beyond the mind; it is a breakthrough. He is also out of the mind but because he has gone beyond mind, he attains to ultimate sanity, to great intelligence, to a clarity, mind cannot even conceive of. The similarity is that both are out of the mind and the mind can interpret both either as enlightened or as insane. Hence a strange thing has been happening in the East and in the West. There are many enlightened people in the West inside insane asylums because Western psychology does not believe in any breakthrough. For anyone who goes out of the mind, only one interpretation is available: that he has gone mad. In the East there are many madmen who are worshiped as enlightened because the East interprets going out of the mind always as a breakthrough. Meher baba in India travelled all over the country to catch hold of all kinds of madmen, because they are just very close to God. In all the madhouses, anywhere that he heard there was a madman, he would go. He traveled all over India his whole life, searching for mad people. His disciples asked him, “Why are you wasting your time with mad people when sane people are available to work upon, and they want your time?” Meher Baba said, “You don’t understand. To bring a sane person out of his sanity is very difficult. But to bring out a madman is very easy because in a way he is already out, but from the back door. He has tasted something of the outside; we have only to show him the right door and say, “Please don’t go out from the wrong door, go from the right door. Being out is perfectly right, but choose the right door.” And Meher Baba turned many mad people into enlightened people.

Yoga is a science. It is just an accident that Hindus discovered it. It is not Hindu. It is a pure mathematics of the inner being. So a Mohammedan can be a yogi, a Christian can be a yogi, a Jain, a Buddhhist can be a yogi. Yoga is pure science, and Patanjali is the greatest name as far as the world of Yoga is concerned. For the first time in the history of humanity, this man brought religion to the state of a science: he made religion a science, bare laws; no belief is needed. Yoga has nothing as far as belief is concerned. Yoga doesn’t say to believe in anything; Yoga says experience. Just as science says experiment, Yoga says experience. Experiment and experience are both the same; their directions are different. Experiment means something you can do outside; experience means something you can do inside. Experience is an inside experiment. Yoga is existential, experiential, experimental. No belief is required, no faith is needed...only the courage to experience. Yoga is not belief. That’s why it is difficult, arduous, and sometimes it seems impossible. It is an existential approach. You will come to the truth, not through belief but through your own experience, through your own realization. That means you will have to be totally changed. Your viewpoints, your way of life, your mind, your psyche has to be shattered completely as it is. Something new has to be created. Only with that new will you come in contact with reality. Yoga is not a philosophy. It is not a religion. It is not something you can think about. It is something you will have to be; thinking won’t do.Yoga is concerned with your total being, with your roots. It is not philosophical. So with Patanjali we will not be thinking, speculating. With Patanjali we will be trying to know the ultimate laws of being: the laws of its transformation

My personal experience has been that achieving celibacy is the best thing that can happen in your life, but I never recommend it to others, I know everyone can't directly become celibate without learning many lessons from life. Similarly everyone can't settle for a monogamous relationship unless he or she attains some maturity, awareness.

@Emerald Wilkins I appreciate your reply but you can't recommend choosing a single partner for deeper understanding to everyone. Each person is unique and carries their own soul imprints with them. These soul imprints determine what kind of life path a person will need to follow. In general, a person will go through various forms of relationship during a lifetime. Sometimes a person may like to experience deeper intimacy through monogamy. At another time, the same person may like to see themselves mirrored in many partners. Or at another time, they may wish to experiment with celibacy. I live in India where most of the people live with one partner for their entire life , It may be good for their children but I don't find loving relationships between married couples.

Clinging to one person is a kind of immaturity. Why should one cling? Love is beautiful and love is divine, and all are the forms of god, so why get obsessed with one form when the form is not obsessed with you? If both are obsessed with each other, it is okay. This is an old idea which is not scientifically true, that if the man goes and has a little affair with a woman sometimes, then his own woman will suffer; she will not get as much love as was hers. That is wrong. She will not suffer, she will get more. And soon, seeing other women, meeting other women, again and again the realization comes: 'What is the point? My own woman can give all this, and in a far more intimate way, with far more devotion, far more commitment. Why should I be moving like a beggar?' He will come home with a greater longing for you. In fact, modern psychology suggests that if the marriage is to continue, a few side affairs are always good and helpful to keep the marriage running. If there are no side affairs then the marriage becomes really a boring phenomenon. It becomes so heavy—the same man, the same woman, the same talk, the same love; everything sooner or later becomes a routine. Then the thrill is gone and all is repetitious, monotonous. So if you are a seeker than either your boyfriend, your husband, has to become more meditative, create higher qualities of being…only then will he be fulfilling. Otherwise the relationship will break, the bridge cannot remain; you will have to find a new friend. Or, if it is impossible to find a new friend…then you have to love the divine.

A spectator is one whose eyes are on others. And the observer is one whose eyes are on himself. When the eyes are on the object you are a spectator, when the eyes are on the seer you are an observer. It is a revolutionary distinction, very fundamental. When your eyes stop on the object and you forget yourself, then you are a spectator. When all objects of vision have departed, when you, and only you, are there – only awakening remains, only alertness remains – then you are an observer. When you are a spectator, you become completely oblivious. You forget yourself completely; your attention gets stuck there. You watch TV for hours you forget yourself, you don’t even remember who you are. You forget all worries and anxieties. There is so much worry, anxiety, trouble in living – a method of forgetting is needed. People become completely one pointed. Only at the TV is their total attention is focused. They see… actually there is nothing on the screen, just shadows go on flickering, but people are all attention. They forget their illness, their anxieties, their old age, and even if death comes they will forget that. But remember, you have not become an observer before TV; you have become a spectator. You have forgotten yourself; you have no memory of who you are. You have lost all memory of the energy of seeing which is within you. You have stopped at the object in front of you, you are totally drowned in it. To be a spectator is a kind of self-forgetting. And to be an observer means now all objects of observation have disappeared. The screen is empty, now no film moves on it. No thoughts remain, no words remain; the screen becomes absolutely empty, blank and shining, white. Nothing left to see, only the seer remains. And now you take a plunge into the seer. You become the observer. @Orange What will you get by seeing? You have seen so much. What did you get? Watch what you allow into your mind. People are unaware; they go on reading everything and anything, watching any silly thing on the TV, passing on any stupid gossip and pouring rubbish into each other´s heads. Avoid such situations in which you are unnecessarily burdened with rubbish. You already have too much. You need to be unburdened! Talk and listen only to the essential and slowly slowly you will see that a cleanliness, a feeling of purity, as if you have just taken a bath, will start arising within you. That becomes the necessary soil for meditation to arise.

Really, no matter what we call it, we will miss it. Any conceptualization is going to miss the real - any conceptualization - so whatever has been known as the self, the soul, the atman, is not the real thing. It cannot be. All those who have defined it, have defined it with a condition: that they are trying something that is absurd. That which cannot be said they are saying; that which cannot be defined they are defining; that which cannot be known they are making a theory about. There have been three attitudes about it. First, there have been the mystics, the knowers, who have remained totally silent about it. They will not give any definition; they say definition is futile. Then there has been another group of mystics - the largest group - that says, "Even an effort that is futile can be helpful. Sometimes even untrue theory leads to truth, sometimes even wrongs may become rights, sometimes even a false step may lead you to a right end. It may look false at the moment, or in the end it may even prove false, but still, false devices can help." This second group feels that by remaining silent you are still saying something, that nothing can be said. And this second type of mystic has a point. Definitions belong to them. Then there is a third type who has been neither silent nor who has defined. They have just denied the whole thing in order that you will not be at all obsessed with it. Buddha belongs to this third type. If you ask him whether there is a soul, whether there is God, whether there is an existence beyond life, he will just deny it.

Man has created God in his own image.

None of above, only need food, clothes and shelter, I prefer to live alone without purpose.

Jung suggests that everyone has both an extroverted side and an introverted side, with one being more dominant than the other. Extroverts are interested in the outer. They are active people, worldly – after wealth, prestige, position, power. They become politicians, they become social reformers, they become great leaders, great industrialists. They are interested in things, the outer world; they are not interested in themselves. Then there are introverts. They are not very active people. If they have to do something they will do, otherwise they have no inclination to do. They would like to remain with closed eyes. They become poets, mystics, meditators, contemplatives. They are not interested in the world, they are interested only in themselves; they close their eyes and they introvert their energies. An extrovert is one who is very easily lost in anything. An introvert is one who, whatsoever he does,remains alone. Somewhere he is separate, aloof, distant. The introvert lives from within. He feels hungry then he goes to find the food. The extrovert becomes hungry when he sees the food. The introvert gets interested and looks for a woman because he feels sexually aroused. The extrovert become aroused when he sees a woman. For the extrovert cause is outside. For the introvert cause is inside.

Read From Sex to Superconsciousness by Osho The journey into love cannot exclude our innate biological energies. With this perspective, it becomes clear that the tendency for religions, and for society in general, to associate sex with sin and morality has been a great misfortune. From Sex to Superconsciousness begins by deconstructing the layers of sexual repression that the condemnation of sex has inflicted on human. Osho proposes a vision that embraces sex as a fundamental gift from nature. We learn how orgasm offers a glimpse of timelessness, thoughtlessness, and pure awareness. Finally, we are presented with a clear choice: a repressed sexuality that leads to pornography, perversion, and a stunted humanity or a playful, respectful, and relaxed innocence that supports us in becoming fulfilled and whole, as nature intended. http://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/hindi-translations/From_Sex_to_Superconsciousness.pdf

Your unconditional love will make you unattached to individuals; it will be just an aroma around you. You will be a loving person. You will love the trees, you will love the sunset, you will love a woman, you will love all that this universe provides you. Your real being only flowers with unconditional love. Your love can turn into hate any moment. Scratch a person just a little bit, and the love disappears and hate arises. It is not even skin-deep. Even so-called great lovers are continuously fighting, continuously at each other's throats – nagging, destructive. And people think this is love. The real thing is not a relationship but a state; one is not in love but one is love. A Buddha is love, a Jesus is love – not in love with a particular person, but simply love. Their very climate is love. It is not addressed to anybody in particular, it is spreading in all directions. An unenlightened can think that he can love unconditionally or someone can appear to be loving unconditionally, but his love can turn into hate any moment. For example if you think you love a girl unconditionally, marry her , you will find what kind of love it is. Only those who are never allowed to meet are remembered, for centuries, for their great love.

Ordinarily people love only when their conditions are fulfilled. They say, "You should be like this, only then will I love". A mother says to the child, "I’ll love you only if you behave". A wife says to the husband, "You have to be this way, only then can I love you". Everybody creates conditions: love disappears. When you fall in love everything looks beautiful, because in those moments you don’t put conditions. Two persons move near each other unconditionally. Once they have settled, once they have started taking each other for granted, then conditions are being imposed: "You should be like this, you should behave like that, only then will I love"–as if love is a bargain. Falling in love you become a possession: you possess and you allow somebody to possess you.

Tratak is gateway to psychic powers but this video appears to be a hoax. Any mystic will not do such kind of demonstration before everyone. If he can do it on YouTube, why can't he do it in front of scientists ?

He meditated just to set a good example to his students.

Meditation will not give you enlightenment. No technique will ever give you enlightenment; enlightenment is not technical. Meditation can only prepare the ground. Meditation can bring you to your nature. Once you are ready, it always comes. Enlightenment comes when you are not even meditating or waiting for enlightenment. When all your efforts are dropped. Enlightened persons don't meditate. There is no question of forgetting the truth, you will become truth. When Jesus says "I am the truth" he is saying that whosoever attains to "I am-ness" is truth. And this truth is not something philosophical , this truth is existential.

@Nahm I am doing efforts to become more introvert.

@Nahm I am more introvert, less extrovert. I am on a path of becoming more and more introvert.

Logic divide things either into black or white, while the reality consists mostly of grey. Ordinarily, no one is either totally extrovert or totally introvert. These are broad divisions. We are all a mixture -- partly introvert, partly extrovert. The difference is only of degrees. Sometimes it may happen that an individual is ninety percent extrovert and ten percent introvert. But by and large, people are of mixed nature. It is very rare that a person is purely introvert; because, such a person will not be able to live even for a moment. For food he will have to come out, for taking a bath he will have to be out. If a person becomes one hundred percent introvert, he will be dead. A one hundred percent extrovert person will also die immediately because, he too will have to sleep for which he will have to go inward. He will need rest for which he will have to go within. After work, some space for oneself is essential. One needs to spare oneself from friends and loved ones otherwise his contact with the inner sources will be lost and he will be finished. Hence this division is basically theoretical. Between one individual and another there are differences in degrees. Someone may be ninety percent extrovert and ten per cent introvert. A very introvert person if not becomes a pervert , will become a Buddha, but nobody becomes introvert to that degree. The extrovert religion prays to God; introvert religiousness meditates. Prayer is extrovert, meditation is introvert. Extrovert religions have not produced many enlightened persons.

In case of a nuclear apocalypse leaving US is not going to help. Those who want enlightenment , don't care about end of the world, don't run, move inside, meditate, live in present moment. How long you can escape death ? Your death is born with you; now you cannot escape it. You have hidden it in yourself – become aware of it. The moment you become aware that you are going to die, that death is certain, your total mind will start looking in a different dimension. It happened that a Zen master was invited as a guest. A few friends had gathered and they were eating and talking when suddenly there was an earthquake. The building that they were sitting in was a seven story building, and they were on the seventh story so life was in danger. Everybody tried to escape. The host, running by, looked to see what had happened to the master. He was there with not even a ripple of anxiety on his face. With closed eyes he was sitting on his chair as he had been sitting before. The host felt a little guilty, he felt a little cowardly; it does not look good that a guest is sitting there and the host is running away. The others, the other twenty guests, had already gone down the stairs but he stopped himself although he was trembling with fear, and he sat down by the side of the master. The earthquake came and went, the master opened the eyes and started his conversation which because of the earthquake he had had to stop. He continued again at exactly the same sentence – as if the earthquake had not happened at all. The host was now in no mood to listen, he was in no mood to understand because his whole being was so troubled and he was so afraid. Even though the earthquake had gone, the fear was still there. He said: Now don’t say anything because I will not be able to grasp it, I’m not myself anymore. The earthquake has disturbed me too much. But there is one question I would like to ask. All other guests had escaped, I was also on the stairs, almost running, when suddenly I remembered you. Seeing you sitting here with closed eyes, sitting so undisturbed, so unperturbed, I felt a little cowardly – I am the host, I should not run. So I came back and I have been sitting by your side. I would like to ask one question. We all tried to escape. What happened to you? What do you say about the earthquake? The master said: I also escaped, but you escaped outwardly, I escaped inwardly.

Playing video games makes you introvert. There seem to be only two ways: either be an extrovert -- but by being an extrovert you can never become a Buddha. Your focus is others, you are in a shadow. But how will your inner being grow this way? You will look more happy, you may look as if you are enjoying life more, but how are you going to grow? How will your inner being come to that point where it becomes light? If you are not concerned with it at all, it is not going to grow. To be an extrovert is good in the sense that you remain healthy -- you don't become a pervert. To be an introvert is dangerous because an introvert becomes ill, an introvert becomes in reality perverted. He thinks continuously about himself, he becomes enclosed. He remains with his frustrations, worries, anxieties, anguish, depressions, anger, jealousy, hate, this and that -- and he only worries. Think what type of anguish he lives in, continuously worried about things: Why am I angry? How should I become non-angry? Why do I hate? How should I transcend it? Why am I depressed? How to attain bliss? -- he is continuously worried, and through this worry he creates the very same things he is worried about. It becomes a vicious circle If you move wrongly, you will become a pervert and the wrong movement is that you become too concerned. Then what to do? Treat yourself as if you also are the other; don't be too concerned. When your body is ill it is as if somebody else's body is ill: do whatsoever is needed but don't be too concerned. If you have a fever go to the doctor, take the medicine, take care of the body, and that's all. Why be concerned too much? If you are on path of enlightenment, ready to accept everything life offers, good or bad, success or failure, health or illness, then only playing video games is OK. If you cannot follow this then it is better to be an extrovert, be unconcerned; you will not grow but at least you will not suffer so much as an introvert suffers.

Now it is time, that you should sincerely and authentically enter into meditation, because that is the only space which can free you from all fears of death, old age, sickness. The old man is in the same state as when the storm has gone and silence prevails. That silence can be of tremendous beauty, depth, richness. There are thousand and one problems, solution is only one, live life meditatively. Life is not a problem. Rather, it is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved. A problem can be solved logically; a mystery cannot be solved logically or in any other way. A mystery has to be lived, accepted as it is; there is no way to solve it.

@Emerald Wilkins You have a great intellect, it will be very difficult for you to become a mystic !

Meher Baba did a great experiment. He traveled all over the India to catch hold of all kinds of madmen, because they are just very close to God. Only one thing is needed: somebody is needed who can shake them back to their sanity. Then they can become great Masters. The madman, if in the hands of enlightened people, can achieve enlightenment faster than your so-called sane people. In the East there has been a longstanding tradition… in this century one man revived it again – his name was Meher Baba. He went all over India seeking and searching for mad people. In all the madhouses, anywhere that he heard there was a madman, he would go. He traveled all over India his whole life, searching for mad people. His disciples asked him, “Why are you wasting your time with mad people when sane people are available to work upon, and they want your time?” Meher Baba said, “You don’t understand. To bring a sane person out of his sanity is very difficult. But to bring out a madman is very easy because in a way he is already out, but from the back door. He has tasted something of the outside; we have only to show him the right door and say, “Please don’t go out from the wrong door, go from the right door. Being out is perfectly right, but choose the right door.” And Meher Baba turned many mad people into enlightened people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Baba

That's not much of a difference, one injection of hormones can bridge the gap.