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Prabhaker replied to AstralProjection's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Success is a by-product; one need not think about it. And if you think about it, you will not get it - that is a condition. Don't think about success, because if you start thinking about success you become divided. Then you are not totally in the work; your real mind is in the future: 'How to succeed?' Your mind has started playing the game of greed, ambition, ego. Never think of success. Success is a natural by-product. If you work really sincerely upon yourself, success will follow you just as your shadow follows you. If you think of success, somewhere deep down there will be a fear also. Who knows whether you are going to make it or not? You may fail. Success takes you into the future, gives you a greed game, an ego projection, ambition, and the fear also gives you a shaking, a trembling - you may fail. The possibility of failure makes you waver. And with this wavering, with this greed, with this ambition, your work will not be quiet. Your work will become a turmoil; you will be working here and looking there. When you move on the road do you look again and again for your shadow - whether it is following you or not? The shadow follows; it is inevitable. So if your work is in the right direction, with the right effort, with the totality of your being, the reward follows automatically. -
We have trained our minds for doubt, so those methods that were based on faith have become useless. For the modern mind, they cannot be used. The modern mind only accepts the body and the mind; the spiritual realm is taken as a romantic fallacy. So you cannot begin anything from the spiritual. At the most, you can start from the psychological. All the old methods - if used directly, without catharsis - will not be of much help. If you just watch the mind, it will take a very long time - years. And nothing is certain because you are not simply watching: every day, you are creating more mind. And there is a past accumulation in the mind, so it can go on and on; you can go on and on. Old methods can help somebody who has not much tension in his body, has not much repression in his mind, but now to find such people is very difficult. Now everybody is full of tensions. Woodcutters, fishermen, farmers – for them old methods may be perfectly good, because already their body is doing so much. Modern civilization people are sitting the whole day in their chairs. Bodies were not made for that. Man is basically a hunter. His body was made to work hard – eight hours, twelve hours – and the question of tensions in the body was out of the question. The whole upbringing, the civilization, the education, is suppressive. You have accumulated anger, sex, violence, greed, everything! Now this accumulation is a madness within you. If you begin with any suppressive meditation, for example, with just sitting, you are suppressing all of this, you are not allowing it to be released. So, begin with a catharsis - dynamic meditation.
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He was 'fed up', a person with higher consciousness is bound to fed up, otherwise who cares about people were suffering outside of the castle walls and start a quest to understand the nature of reality ?
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@Arkandeus No, Why we go on asserting such statements as ”I strongly believe,” ”I am deeply convinced” ? Because deep down you feel that you don’t know, this not-knowing has to be repressed. By strong beliefs you repress this state of not-knowing. Look underneath your convictions and you will always find undercurrents of strong doubts. That’s why believers can change their belief very easily, but they cannot allow the natural doubt to surface. The theist can become an atheist; when he was a theist he was strongly convinced of its truth, and when he becomes an atheist, he is strongly convinced again of the truth of atheism. Soviet Russia before the revolution was one of the most theistic countries in the world. Even India is not so theistic. It was the orthodox stronghold of Christianity, very orthodox. And then, within a few years, within just five to ten years, the whole country changed from a strong conviction of theism to a strong conviction of atheism. What happened? China was one of the most religious countries in the East under Confucius, Lao Tzu, Mencius, Chuang Tzu, Lieh Tzu – the great heritage. And then the impact, the great impact of Buddha and Bodhidharma. Thousands of monasteries, thousands of monks, Taoist, Buddhist, Confucian, and at least five thousand years of traditional up-bringing, yet within ten years after the revolution all that disappeared. Now China is as strongly convinced of atheism as it was convinced of theism. The same people who look so religious will become anti-religious in the same way, with a vengeance, because the doubt is there deep down waiting for the right moment to assert itself. Everybody teaches belief, but doubt is natural. Hence the real Masters of the world... for example, Gautam Buddha, says to his disciples, ”Don’t believe just because I say it is so. Don’t believe just because the holy scriptures say it is so. Don’t believe because the masses believe in a certain thing. Unless you experience, never believe in anything. Go on doubting – go on doubting to the very extreme.” Doubt is a natural, intrinsic quality of your being; it is God-given. Use it, because it has tremendous power in it. It is an instrument to discover truth.
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Now,I feel sorry for my parents.When you will grow spiritually to more higher levels you will know, if you were raised in same circumstances as your parents were, you couldn't be a different person , man is a robot, unless he is a meditator. When it becomes you own knowing, you become free from your past.
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My parents forced my brother to suicide, my mother ruined my life. I gathered courage to go back consciously and found insights which have made me unburdened.
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Buddha was born a king. He got fed up with his palaces, with his richness, with his luxury; he became a beggar. In the middle of one night, he renounced his kingdom and went into the forest as a beggar. Osho was born as a poor man. he got fed up with up poverty. He renounced poverty, he lived like an emperor. A drastic change in your lifestyle helps you to become enlightened. It doesn’t matter whether from the palace you move to the cave, or from the cave you move to the palace. A drastic change in your lifestyle brings the revelation easily, because it uproots you from your ground, it brings you to a totally new territory. You cannot remain the same, you have to change. Sometimes there comes a point in the spiritual journey, when society, family, job, wealth start becoming hindrances. Whenever you find a higher value, the lower drops. Whenever you find a more blissful way of living, the miserable way of living drops.
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Frustration is a by product: the more you expect, the more you create your own frustration. So frustration is not really the problem, it is the result. Expectation is the problem. Frustration is just a shadow which follows expectation. Everything we do, we do with expectations. If you love someone, an expectation enters without your knowing. Love creates more frustration than anything else in the world because, with love, you are in a utopia of expectation. The same law applies to everything. There is so much frustration in the world that it is difficult to find someone who is not frustrated. It is very difficult to find a person who is not frustrated. And It makes no difference what the object, the cause, the source of frustration may be. One can be frustrated because of power, because of prestige, because of wealth. One can be frustrated because of love. One can even be frustrated because of God. Even in the search for the divine we have expectations. Expectation is the poison. The world is frustrated -- that is a fact. But you go and try to find out why you are frustrated. You will find that it is because of your expectations. That is the seed, the root cause. Throw it out!
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If you are conscious, you can watch. Go back. For example, Close your eyes; again be the child who has committed something, done something against the father, wants to be forgiven but cannot gather courage – now you can gather courage! You can say whatsoever you wanted to say, you can touch his feet again, or you can be angry and hit him – but be finished! Let the whole process be completed. Remember one basic law: anything that is complete drops, because then there is no meaning in carrying it; anything that is incomplete clings, it waits for its completion. Move backwards. Every night for one hour before you go to sleep, move into the past, relive. Many memories by and by will be unearthed. With many you will be surprised that you were not aware that these things are there – and with such vitality and freshness, as if they had just happened! You will be again a child. Move slowly, so everything is completed. Your mountain will become smaller and smaller – the load is the mountain. And the smaller it becomes, the freer you will feel. A certain quality of freedom will come to you, and a freshness, and inside you will feel you have touched a source of life. Now life is flowing because the blocks have disappeared.
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Neither quit seeking enlightenment nor drop all your responsibilities. Those responsibilities have to be fulfilled - fulfilled with great joy. Your husband, your children, your parents, your old father, your old mother, they need you. That is where god has put you - into a certain responsibility. Fulfill it. Meditation is such a powerful thing that one hour out of twenty four hours is enough. It will illuminate your whole life. And the test of whether your meditation is succeeding or not is in life. When you meditate and you go to the shop you will know whether you are succeeding in your meditation or not. Are you still as greedy in the shop as you used to be before? Do you still get angry when somebody says something against you? Can people still manage to push your buttons as easily as before? In the market-place is the test of all your meditations. If you just do meditations and nothing else that is like preparing and preparing and never going to the examination. That is not right. The test has to be there every day - one hour meditation, twenty-three hours test. And you will grow strong.
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@Emerald Osho has talked about a seven-year cycle of change. Every seven years the body and mind take a new turn. If we say life moves in a cycle of seven years, the age 42 is the turning point when a person changes from being materialistic to being spiritual. His need for meditation becomes stronger and if he finds the right doorway he starts growing up instead of growing old. He spends time in meditation and the spiritual search. Youth cannot have depth, and youth cannot have calm understanding. Youth is feverish, it is a tumultuous time. You have to pass through many experiences, sweet and bitter. You have to pass through many stages of feverishness, of ecstasy, of excitement; only then a moment comes when you start understanding. Those experiences prepare you, they cleanse you.
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It could be anything. Buddha left his kingdom, wife and one day old son. Going beyond mind needs great courage. You have to accept everything good or bad that life offers without complaining. Hindus philosophy advises to start spiritual journey after fifty, when your children ready to take all your responsibilities, when you can afford to move away the society.
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Truth is not cheap. Pay the price - don't be afraid. Beyond the crucifix lies the throne.
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Prabhaker replied to NutellaTC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Energy is not the problem, blockages are problem. If there are no blockages a seeker will not feel kundalini or chakras. Buddha didn't even talked about kundalini. So be concerned with meditation and not with kundalini. -
In Indian temples domes were constructed so that the resonance of our prayers can rebound on us. The dome-shaped temples were used to form sound circles through the chanting of mantras. If one does the chanting sitting all alone in perfect peace and silence, then as soon as the sound circle is formed, thoughts will stop. When Westerners saw Indian temples for the first time, they thought they were very unhygienic. By the very nature of their conception the temples could not have many doors and windows. There could only be one door, and that too was very small. The idea behind this was to ensure that the circle of sound being created in the temple didn’t become obstructed. It is no wonder then that those Westerners went away with the impression that the temples were dingy, dark and dirty, and that even fresh air could not enter them.
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Prabhaker replied to NutellaTC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Learn Osho dynamic meditation http://www.oshodynamic.com/five-stages.html Second Stage (10 Minutes) EXPLODE! … Let go of everything that needs to be thrown out. Follow your body. Give your body freedom to express whatever is there. Go totally mad. Scream, shout, cry, jump, kick, shake, dance, sing, laugh; throw yourself around. Hold nothing back; keep your whole body moving. A little acting often helps to get you started. Never allow your mind to interfere with what is happening. Consciously go mad. Be total. -
Sex as a need - like hunger for food - which incidentally provides sense-and ego-gratification. That's how Freud thinks about sex, that it gives you ego-gratification, satisfaction, relaxation; it relieves tensions, it is a need. Tantra regards sex as a powerful instinctual return to our ultimate reality, one of the highest forms of meditation.
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Yes, you are already it - you have forgotten the language. You have forgotten who you are. You have forgotten your own identity, you don't know who you are. It is simply a remembrance.
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@MochaSlap Only nothingness can be infinite; somethingness is bound to be finite. Only out of nothingness is an infinite expanse of life, existence, possible - not out of somethingness. It is not empty, it is overfull. Things have disappeared... and what has remained is inexpressible. We try to express it as blissfulness, as ecstasy, as eternal joy, but these are just faraway echoes of the real thing. God is not somebody: He is nobody or, more correctly, nobodiness. God is not something: he is nothing or, even more correctly, no-thingness. Never for a single moment think that nothingness is a negative state, an absence, no. Nothingness is simply no-thingness. Things disappear, only the ultimate substance remains. Forms disappear, only the formless remains. Consciousness is a quality of your mind, but it is not your total mind. Your mind can be both conscious and unconscious, but when you transcend your mind, there is no unconsciousness and no corresponding consciousness. There is awareness. Awareness means that the total mind has become aware. Now the old mind is not there, but there is the quality of being conscious. Awareness has become the totality; the mind itself is now part of the awareness. We cannot say that the mind is aware; we can only meaningfully say that the mind is conscious. Awareness means transcendence of the mind, so it is not the mind that is aware. It is only through transcendence of the mind, through going beyond mind, that awareness becomes possible. Consciousness is a quality of the mind, awareness is the transcendence; it is going beyond the mind. Mind, as such, is the medium of duality, so consciousness can never transcend duality. It is always conscious of something, and there is always someone who is conscious.
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Prabhaker replied to h inandout's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Unless you are born and raised in favorable, loving and peaceful environment. Meditation needs great work. It is arduous, it is an uphill task. To remain non-meditative is easy in a way. You have not to do anything about it, you are already non-meditative, everybody is born non-meditative. But to become meditative really needs great courage, great determination, great patience, because to go beyond the mind is the most complicated phenomenon. -
Prabhaker replied to h inandout's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Every child around the earth, in all the societies – is forced to renounce his being, is forced to accept others’ opinions about himself. Every child is born absolutely accepting himself as he is. But the parents are afraid, the society is afraid: if he remains being-oriented he will never be a slave. And the society needs slaves, the society needs obedient people. The society does not need individuals, it needs phoney personalities. It needs people who are efficient, but not intelligent. It allows intelligence only to the extent that you remain efficient, but it does not allow your intelligence to grow to its maximum – because at the maximum, intelligence will be so rebellious, so revolutionary, it will be fire. It needs dead people, dull people, unintelligent people, so they can go on and on working for others’ interests. The society, from the very beginning, teaches you, ”Listen to what others say about you, because that is what you are.” You don't know exactly who you are. That's why you are afraid, because if others' opinions change, you change. You are in the grip of their hands. And this is the trick society has used. Society has a technique: it makes you very ambitious for social respect - through it, it manipulates you. If you follow the rules of society, it respects you. If you don't follow the rules of society, it insults you tremendously, it hurts you very badly. And to follow the rules of society is to become a slave. Yes, it pays you great respect for being a slave, but if you want to be a free man, the society becomes angry: it does not want to have anything to do with you. To really be a free man and to exist in any society is very difficult. It is almost impossible to co-exist, because the society does not want any free man. -
Prabhaker replied to stevegan928's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Going mad with right intentions is not possible , how can you be mad if your intentions are right ? Only possibility is that so called sane society can think that you are mad because society finds absolute sanity of a Buddha, a Jesus as insanity. The function of psychoanalysis or psychiatry - or any other therapies used in insane asylums - is not to cure you. It is just to make you normally insane so that you can go back to work, so that you can be again useful to the society, so that the society can again exploit you. They are simply pushing you back within the limit so you can function efficiently. -
The Kama Sutra an ancient Indian Hindu text written by Vātsyāyana. It is widely considered to be the standard work on human sexual behavior. A portion of the work consists of practical advice on sexual intercourse. http://www.yogavidya.com/Yoga/Kamasutra.pdf ( You can download it, this book contains pictures too) Some Indian philosophies follow the "four main goals of life", Dharma: Virtuous living. Artha: (Material) prosperity. Kama: Desire Moksha: Liberation.
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In India the temple of Khajuraho has beautiful statues in all sexual postures. It was a tantra school that made the temple and those statues. In the past India was not sexually repressed. Those were the days when temples like Khajuraho, Konarak, Puri, were built — India was not sexually repressed. In spite of the few so-called saints, the greater part of the country was sexually satisfied; there was a softness, a loving quality, a grace. The structure of every temple is almost the same. On the outer side of the temple, the outer wall, there are what are statues — men and women naked, loving, making love, in all the possible postures one can imagine or dream of. The only posture that is missing is known in India as the missionary posture — man on top of woman: only that is missing — that was brought by Christian missionaries. Otherwise the whole idea, to the Indian mind, looked ugly — that the man should be on top of the woman. Seems to be unfair. The woman is more fragile, and this beast is on top of the beauty. No, Indians have never thought of that posture as human. In India it is known as the missionary posture because the first time they saw it, it was Christian missionaries in that posture; otherwise they had no idea that this could be done. The oldest sexual scripture is five thousand years old — Vatsyayana’s Kamasutras. And in the time of Vatsyayana, writing sutras on sex — kama means sex — maxims for sex, guidelines for sex, was not thought to be a bad act; Vatsyayana is respected as one of the great seers of India. These temples in Khajuraho have, on the outer side, beautiful women, beautiful men, and all in love postures. Inside there are no love postures. Inside you will find the temple empty, not even a statue of God. The idea is that unless you pass through your sexuality with full awareness, in all its phases, in all its dimensions — unless you come to a point when sex has no meaning for you.… only then you enter the temple.
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The woman has been conditioned by man for thousands of years into thinking that she is monogamous. And man is very cunning; he has exploited the woman in many ways. One of the ways is: he has been telling her that man is, by nature, polygamous. All the psychologists, all the sociologists are agreed upon the fact that man is polygamous; and none of them says the same thing about woman. My own understanding is that both are polygamous. If a woman does not behave in a polygamous way, it is nurture, not nature. She has been utterly conditioned so long that the conditioning has gone into her very blood, into her bones, into her very marrow. Monogamy is boredom. However beautiful a woman may be, however beautiful a man may be, you become tired -- the same geography, the same topography. How long do you have to see the same face? So it happens that years pass, and the husband has not looked attentively at his wife for a single moment. A woman had to depend financially on man, man has cut the woman in so many ways: he has cut her wings, he has cut her freedom, he has cut her dependence upon herself. He has taken her responsibilities on his shoulders, showing great love, saying: you need not be worried about yourself, I will take care. But in the name of love, he has taken the freedom of the woman.