Prabhaker

No, only a ripe fruit falls. Ego is part of natural growth. But that doesn't mean that you have to remain with it forever. It is a natural growth, and then there is a second step when it has to be dropped. That too is natural. But the second step can be taken only when the first has come to its crescendo, its climax, when the first has reached its peak. Ego will drop. It can drop of its own accord also. If you simply allow it to grow and help it to grow, there will be NO need to drop it. This is very deep. If YOU drop it, ego has remained inside. WHO will drop it? If you think YOU will drop it, YOU are the ego - so whatsoever you drop will not be the real thing. The real thing will be preserved and you will have thrown something else. You cannot make yourself egoless. Who will do it? It happens, it is not a doing. You grow into ego and a point comes when the whole thing becomes so hellish that the dream is broken.

I agree. They are the greatest problem. Looking at the world with a bird's eye view, a strange feeling arises that we have everything – just we need one humanity. And the most dangerous thing is that this preparation for our suicide, by all the nations, is in the name of war and victory – all childish and stupid. You can see it in the way nations respect a piece of cloth as their flag and if it is removed their whole glory and freedom is lost – you cannot insult the national flag. This is the situation of human retardedness. It is a simple fact that the earth is undivided. What is the need of so many nations, except that it fulfills so many people's ego trips?

There are people who practice celibacy for few weeks and then suddenly they lose all control, and over indulge in sex/ porn. This sudden over indulgence makes them feel depressed. They swing from one extreme to other extreme. A person who is living a healthy sex life can't feel depressed or 'tired of life'. I always advocate transformation, not repression. Through a understanding , a healthy approach, one can achieve true celibacy, instead of swinging between few weeks of sexual repression and then few days of over indulgence.

There are states of depression in which a person can lose interest in sex completely. Some anti depressants can kill your sex drive. There are monks who force celibacy by eating less, sleeping less, doing minimum physical work. Do you think they become energetic, alive ? No. A person can drain his all energy if he is mad after something , for example - earning money, he becomes insane. A person can drain his energy in fantasizing about sex without indulging in porn and masturbation. A real celibacy can only be consequence of meditative life, else sexual repression can't be sustained for very long periods.

Only a person who has negative thinking is attracted to positive thinking...A person who has no negative thinking will not think of positive thinking... Only a person who is not well thinks of medicine...isn't it. So to become a positive thinker u have to be a negative thinker first...or else who cares about positive thoughts...there is no need. The issue is the negativity...and what u r trying to do is basically replace negative with positive...and there lies the whole problem of understanding. The solution is not in bringing the positivity but getting rid of negativity...become bereft of negativity and u won't need any positivity. NOW, WHY DOES ONE HAVE NEGATIVE THINKING... HOW DOES THE NEGATIVITY BEGINS... FROM WHERE DOES IT ENTER. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THAT All YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING IS BECAUSE OF THE POSITIVE THOUGHTS THAT U STARTED WITH. Please look in your life and see how the trap gets formed. Positive thinking is always future oriented...pertaining to what u expect out of ur actions...and all your action is motivated by goals. These goals are part of ur positive thinking and aspirations. You set your standards or goals or objectives and the time frame and the whole road map as to how to reach them. There is a zest when u plan all this...one is in a positive bent of mind, full of enthusiasm , energy. Now when u plan it's only ur mind that works...but when u act or execute there is ur body and so many other factors which are involved... parameters which r not in ur hands, which ur mind doesn't know about at the time of planing . The whole approach of planning is grossly optimistic rather than realistic. It is based on what u desire and expect rather than what u may or may not get. And when u start working or moving towards ur goal u realize u are failing so many times... u realize there are so many compromises involved...so many struggles, so many bad decisions, so many pitfalls, so much tiredness...so much fight, and on and on. Gradually negativity comes...the whole momentum of energy takes u turn bcos life is not what u had imagined while being in the optimistic frame of mind...there r obstacles...the outcome is generally not what u had anticipated...and the same positive attitude turns negative. That is why this world is full of negativity despite all the talk and lectures on how to do this and that, how to be positive...how to be happy....and all the "how to manuals..." The more the talk of being positive shows the prevailing abundance of negativity...the more the talk of positive thoughts indicates the presence of negative thinking in the life. Remember this: Whenever you are depressed, wait for the moment that the depression goes. Nothing lasts forever; the depression will go. And when it leaves you, wait – be aware and alert – because after the depression, after the night, there will be a dawn and the sun will rise. If you can be alert in that moment. you will he happy that you were depressed. You will be grateful that you are depressed because only through your depression was this mint of happiness possible. But what do we do? We move in an infinite regression We get depressed. Then we get depressed because of the depression: a second depression follows. If you are depressed. that′s okay! – nothing is wrong in it. It is beautiful because through it you will learn and mature. But then you feel badly. "Why do I get depressed? I should not get depressed." Then you start fighting with the depression. The first depression is good, but the second depression is unreal. And this unreal depression will cloud your mind. You will miss the moment that would have followed the real depression. When depressed, be depressed. Simply be depressed. Don′t get depressed about your depression. When depressed, simply be depressed. Don′t fight it, don′t create any diversion, don′t force it to go. Just allow it to happen; it will go by itself. Life is a flux; nothing remains the same. You are not needed; the river moves by itself, you don′t have to push it. If you are trying to push it, you are simply foolish. The river flows by itself. Allow it to flow. When depression is there, allow it to be. Don′t get depressed about it. If you want to remove it sooner, you will get depressed. If you fight it, you will create a secondary depression that is dangerous. The first depression is beautiful, God-given. The second depression is your own. It is not God-given; it is mental. Then you will move in mental grooves. They are infinite. If you get depressed, be happy that you are depressed and allow the depression to be. Then suddenly the depression will disappear and there will be a breakthrough. No clouds will be there and the sky will be clear. For a single moment, heaven opens for you. If you are not depressed about your depression you can contact, you can commune, you can enter this heavenly gate. And once you know it, you have learned one of the ultimate laws of life: that life uses the opposite as a teacher, as a back-ground.

There is no word equivalent to 'divorce' in Hindu culture, till death they live together, but love is not there. Those who don't suicide, do not live either. 'Everlasting love' is fantasy of teenagers.

Till self-realization we need efforts. Self-realization is reaching to your center. Many religions have believed that self-realization is the end—for example, Jainism—you have come to your ultimate truth. It is not true. Full enlightenment happens when we drop all efforts.

Most of the people belong to two categories , Unconscious Dishonesty and Unconscious Honesty, both can hope, if the live consciously. Those few who are conscious , are already saved.

Are you talking about speaking truth all the time...or are you talking about being honest towards your husband or spouse or your boyfriend/girlfriend..... Are you talking about being honest while paying your taxes correctly or are you talking about telling truth to your children all the time........ What are the dimensions and paremetres of honesty that you carry in your mind. Is it about being honest to your country or your friends or to your parents or towards your employer ......or being honest towards your workers. Is it about being honest when you see that it is going to kill you or somebody....... If you get entangled in these frivolous ideas, u will always be confused....no clarity. And if you move without clarity you will be divided and gradually schizophrenic......you will have multiple standards in your life and you will always be confused as to what is right and what is wrong......you will begin to manipulate things and situations most of the times....... Please observe a little fact about life.........you came first into this world and then others came into your life...and then gradually associations happened and then gradually conflict of ideas and morals and thinking patterns......isn't it... So first things first..... you came first and you should be important to yourself and hence you should be honest to yourself.....that is the first ground rule as far as my understanding and experience is concerned. "Be honest to yourself " and rest all will fall in place.....everything....and if you are not honest to yourself then no matter how much you try to make others happy, you will always be in trouble and others will always be in trouble because of you. And this could still be confusing as to what "being honest to yourself means" Being honest to yourself means that "happiness is always right and don't do anything that makes you unhappy , that creates hesitation in you , don't do anything that doesn't go with your nature". Most of the times we are in a situation where we are doing things because of people around us.....where we feel that we should do or not do something because it will make somebody important in our life unhappy...we feel almost compelled to do it rather than our hearty wish..... No, be honest to yourself and let others not decide for you , don't do anything because somebody will be upset if you don't do so ......or else you will always be confused.....what to do,what not to do........ There are relations every where and there are complicated situations because of them .....sometimes your spouse would want something and your parent may want something else.....sometimes one of your child may want something and the other child may want exactly opposite of that.....and sometimes you yourself would want to do so many things which others will not want....it's going to be one hell of a compromise to your nature if you are always playing to the gallery .... And please understand that you are not going to be always getting favourable outcome bcos of your instincts.....but you will never blame anybody else for your miseries and failures if you are honest to yourself in listening to your heart . Here, generally we are blaming others for all the problems in our lives. So be very clear...if you are not honest to yourself ...you will never be able to be honest with others....it's not possible....at the most you will be diplomatically correct....BE AWARE THAT YOU ARE NOT BORN TO ACT TO OTHERS WISHES....YOU ARE HERE TO LIVE YOUR DREAMS AND DESTINY..... Honesty to yourself will set you free......free from others and gradually free from your mind and conflicts.......... Honesty is not about being truthful all the time.....it's about being true to yourself, to have the capacity to listen to your heart rather than the calculations of your mind......

@Annetta Each disciple has to become a cannibal -- because he has to eat his Master. Don't take it literally. It is just a metaphor, but very significant, because eating means you absorb, you digest. The Master becomes part of you, is no more separate. That's what Jesus says at The Last Supper when he is taking leave of his disciples. He breaks bread and gives the bread to his disciples and says, "This is me. Eat it, this is my flesh"; pours wine and gives it to his disciples and says, "This is me. Drink it, this is my blood." Again this is a metaphor. He's saying to his disciples, " Eat your Master, digest your Master, so there is no division between you and your Master."

I agree. I think he was supporting cannibalism ! Jesus said that, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Some immature persons dream about finding everlasting love, when they get married, they face harsh realities of life, their dreams are shattered. Both the partners start nagging and quarreling with each other, but they live together whole life, as divorce is still not so common in India. In few cases one partner , in rare cases both partners suicide.

If you really want to be creative, then there is no question of money, success, prestige, respectability. Then you enjoy your activity; then each act has an intrinsic value. You dance because you like dancing; you dance because you delight in it. If somebody appreciates, good, you feel grateful. If nobody appreciates, it is none of your business to be worried about it. You danced, you enjoyed – you are already fulfilled. There have been many creative people who have never been recognized. It is accidental for a creative person to be successful. Creativity means loving whatsoever you do – enjoying, celebrating it, as a gift of existence! Maybe nobody comes to know about it.

If you try to understand through logic, you will find it ridiculous. Cosmic consciousness contains both body of enlightened master, sun and entire universe. Jesus said, "I and my Father are one" , I can give quotes from many other enlightened persons.

In your experience , you are separate from the sun. An enlightened person becomes whole universe . Drop merges into the sea.

@zazed Swami Ram Tirth always said, 'The moon and the stars, revolve within me, the sun rises within me.' To a psychologist, this man may appear a neurotic or a psychotic. His brain is deranged he moon and stars are always in the outer world, how can they be within. There is truth in what the psychologist says. He is right as far as his understanding goes, but he hasn't got the experience which people like Ramtirth have. People like Ramtirth have expounded upto cosmic-body. The endless boundaries of the universe are now their boundaries, so they will experience all revolvings within themselves. Such an individual can say, 'I see the world being created and being destroyed, I see the moon and stars taking births and dying.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_Tirtha

You are talking about state of meditation, J. Krishnamurti was talking about state of enlightenment. When you are not , only existence is. then “the observer is the observed”. You become one with existence.

The statement that “the observer is the observed” is one of the most significant things ever said by any man on the earth. The statement is as extraordinary as J. Krishnamurti was. It is difficult to understand it only intellectually, because the way of the intellect is dialectical, dualistic. On the path of intellect the subject can never be the object, the seer can never be the seen. The observer cannot be the observed. As far as intellect is concerned, it is an absurd statement, meaningless – not only meaningless, but insane. The intellectual approach towards reality is that of division: the knower and the known have to be separate. Only then is there a possibility of knowledge between the two. The scientist cannot become science, the scientist has to remain separate from what he is doing. The experimenter is not allowed to become the experiment itself. As far as intellect is concerned, logic is concerned, it looks absolutely valid. But there is a knowledge that pass the understanding, there is a knowing that goes beyond science. This is the state J. Krishnamurti’s statement is pointing at. When there is nothing to observe, when there is only the observer left, then the observer itself becomes the observed – because there is nothing else to observe, what else to do? The knower simply knows itself. The seer sees himself.

@Annetta Pythagoras discovered the Western mind - the idea of reincarnation. Pythagoras first brought vegetarianism to the West. It too has some connection with vegetarianism. Again you will be surprised: all vegetarian religions believe in reincarnation. Vegetarianism makes to move into memories of past lives easier. Meditation is like a big river — it will reach to the ocean; it is sure to reach. Meditation will surely bring you to God. There are, however, other intermediary applications of meditation also. Like small tributaries these can be directed into canals of meditation. Jati-smaran is one such auxiliary method of meditation. We can channelize the power of meditation towards our past lives also; meditation simply means the focusing of attention. There can be applications where one’s attention is focused on a given object, and one such application is jati-smaran — focusing on the dormant memories of past lives. Buddha has called this alaya-vigyan. There exists a corner in our minds which Buddha has named alaya-vigyan. Alaya-vigyan means the storehouse of consciousness. As we store all our junk in the basement of a house, similarly, there is a storehouse of consciousness that collects memories. Birth after birth, everything is stored in it. Nothing is ever removed from there, because a man never knows when he might need those things. The physical body changes, but, in our ongoing existence, that storehouse continues, remains with us. One never knows when it might be needed. And whatsoever we have done in our lives, whatsoever we have experienced, known, lived — everything is stored there.

Anger, jealousy, envy, greed, competitiveness...all our problems are very small, but our ego magnifies them, makes them as big as it can. The ego cannot do otherwise; its anger has also to be great. By its great anger, and great misery, and great greed, and great ambition it becomes great. We have been taught to compare, we have been conditioned to compare, always compare. Somebody else has a better house, somebody else has a more beautiful body, somebody else has more money, somebody else has a more charismatic personality. Compare, go on comparing yourself with everybody else you pass by, and great jealousy will be the outcome; it is the by-product of the conditioning for comparison. Otherwise, if you drop comparing, jealousy disappears. Then you simply know you are you, and you are nobody else, and there is no need. It is good that you don’t compare yourself with trees, otherwise you will start feeling very jealous: why are you not green? And why has existence been so hard on you – and no flowers? It is better that you don’t compare with birds, with rivers, with mountains; otherwise you will suffer. You only compare with human beings, because you have been conditioned to compare only with human beings; you don’t compare with peacocks and with parrots. Otherwise, your jealousy would be more and more: you would be so burdened by jealousy that you would not be able to live at all. Comparison is a very foolish attitude, because each person is unique and incomparable. Once this understanding settles in you, jealousy disappears. Each is unique and incomparable. You are just yourself: nobody has ever been like you, and nobody will ever be like you. And you need not be like anybody else, either. Existence creates only originals; it does not believe in carbon copies.

@Annetta The psychology of anger is that you wanted something, and somebody prevented you from getting it. Somebody came as a block, as an obstacle. Your whole energy was going to get something and somebody blocked the energy. You could not get what you wanted. Now this frustrated energy becomes anger...anger against the person who has destroyed the possibility of fulfilling your desire. In life, remember one thing: never desire anything so intensely as if it is a question of life and death. Be a little playful. I am not saying, don’t desire – because that will become a repression in you. I am saying, desire but let your desire be playful. If you can get it, good. If you cannot get it, perhaps it was not the right time; we will see next time. Learn something of the art of the player. We become so identified with the desire, then when it is blocked or prevented our own energy becomes fire; it burns you. And in that state of almost insanity you can do anything, for which you are going to repent. It can create a series of events that your whole life may get entangled with. Because of this, for thousands of years, they have been saying, “Become desireless.” Now that is asking something inhuman. Even the people who have said, “Become desireless” have also given you a motive, a desire: if you become desireless you will attain to the ultimate freedom of moksha, nirvana. That too is a desire. You can repress desire for some bigger desire, and you may even forget that you are still the same person. You have only changed the target. Don’t take anything seriously...not even yourself. And then you will see anger simply has not happened. There is no possibility of anger. And anger is certainly one of the great leakages of your spiritual energy. If you can manage to be playful about your desires, and still be the same whether you succeed or you fail. Just start thinking about yourself at ease...nothing special; not that you are meant to be victorious, not that you have to succeed always in every situation. This is a big world and we are small people. Once this settles in your being then everything is acceptable. Anger disappears, and the disappearance will bring you a new surprise, because when anger disappears it leaves behind it tremendous energy of compassion, of love, of friendship.

@Annetta When you are angry with someone and you throw your anger on him, you are creating a chain reaction. Now he too will be angry. This may continue for lives and you will go on being enemies. How can you end it? There is only one possibility. You can end it only in meditation, nowhere else, because in meditation you are not angry with someone: you are simply angry. This difference is basic. You are not angry with someone. You are simply angry and the anger is released into the cosmos. You are not hateful towards anyone. If hate comes, you are simply hateful and the hate is thrown out. In meditation, emotions are not addressed. They are unaddressed. They move into the cosmos, and the cosmos purifies everything. It is just like a dirty river falling into the ocean: the ocean will purify it. Whenever your anger, your hate, your sexuality, moves into the cosmos, into the ocean - it purifies it. If a dirty river falls into another river, then the other river also becomes dirty. When you are angry with someone, you are throwing your dirt at him. Then he will also throw his at you and this will become a mutual dirtying process. In meditation you are throwing yourself into the cosmos to be purified. All the energy that you throw is purified in the cosmos. The cosmos is so vast and so great an ocean, you cannot make it dirty. In meditation we are not related with persons. In meditation we are related directly to the cosmos.

That's fine, buy some unbreakable dishes. There is no need to throw anger on anybody. You can go to your bathroom, you can go on a long walk – it means that something is inside that needs fast activity so that it is released. Just do a little jogging and you will feel it is released, or take a pillow and beat the pillow, fight with the pillow, and bite the pillow until your hands and teeth are relaxed. Within a five-minute catharsis you will feel unburdened, and once you know this you will never throw it on anybody, because that is absolutely foolish. The first thing in transformation then is to express anger, but not on anybody, because if you express it on somebody you cannot express it totally. You may like to kill, but it is not possible; you may like to bite, but it is not possible. But that can be done to a pillow. A pillow means ‘already enlightened’; the pillow is enlightened, a buddha. The pillow will not react, and the pillow will not go to any court, and the pillow will not bring any enmity against you, and the pillow will not do anything. The pillow will be happy, and the pillow will laugh at you.

Deepak Chopra is simply a spiritual teacher, not a mystic or an enlightened master. He is alternative medicine advocate, public speaker, writer.

@egoeimai @egoeimai He is lying !