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Prabhaker replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He was recruiting only 12 persons (apostles), as he claimed that he was incarnation Jesus. He promised them they will become billionaires, because old temptation of 'Kingdom of heaven' will not work now. He should not be taken seriously. -
Prabhaker replied to 2000's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are two types of religions in the world: prayer-oriented religions and meditation-oriented religions. Christianity is a prayer-oriented religion. Prayer and meditation are absolute contraries: prayer moves outwards. Prayer is addressed to a God. Meditation moves inwards. Christianity is an extrovert religion. The emphasis is on serving people - love, compassion. The emphasis is not on meditation. The extrovert religion prays to God; the introvert religion meditates. Prayer is extrovert; it is addressed to God. Meditation is reaching to one’s own being. Love is an effort to reach to the other’s being. There are religions which say that if you meditate, you cannot love. There are religions which say that if you love, how can you meditate? If you meditate, that looks selfish. When the world is in such a misery, people are hungry, ill, dying, and you are meditating – the whole thing looks to be too cruel. Somebody is dying on the road, a beggar, and you are sitting in your temple and meditating. It looks selfish. ’Throw this meditation away,’ says the extrovert religion. ’Go and help people – that is the only way to reach God. A healthy person is one who when he wants to move in, he moves. There is no hindrance. He has no compulsion to be an extrovert. And vice versa. If you are compulsively an introvert – whenever you start moving without, there are inner hindrances. You have to fight, you cannot flow, you have to force. Then you are ill. A healthy person, a healthy being, a healthy energy, is always ready to move anywhere. There is no compulsion to be somewhere in particular. When you can pray like Jesus and meditate like Buddha , then you are complete , whole and healthy. -
When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify.
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There are people in India who learn Yoga for longevity , not for enlightenment. People practice Hatha Yoga for a healthy and longer life.
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You do the job of correcting all inaccurate information provided by me. Serve the humanity !
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@Fidelio I live in India but I never heard that there are some people believe that raping a virgin is a cure for AIDs. India is a democratic country, Indian press is independent. Such news can bring turmoil in India, please provide me some link, source of your information.
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@Annetta The first step is relaxing is the body. Remember as many times as possible to look in the body, whether you are carrying some tension in the body somewhere – at the neck, in the head, in the legs. Relax it consciously. Just go to that part of the body, and persuade that part, say to it lovingly "Relax!" "And you will be surprised that if you approach any part of your body, it listens, it follows you – it is your body! With closed eyes, go inside the body from the toe to the head searching for any place where there is a tension. And then talk to that part as you talk to a friend; let there be a dialogue between you and your body. Tell it to relax, and tell it, "There is nothing to fear. Don't be afraid. I am here to take care – you can relax." Slowly slowly, you will learn the knack of it. Then the body becomes relaxed. Start from the body, and then go, slowly slowly, deeper. And don't start with anything else unless you have first solved the primary. If your body is tense, don't start with the mind. Wait. Work on the body. And just small things are of immense help. "You walk at a certain pace; that has become habitual, automatic. Now try to walk slowly. Buddha used to say to his disciples, "Walk very slowly, and take each step very consciously." If you take each step very consciously, you are bound to walk slowly. If you are running, hurrying, you will forget to remember. Hence Buddha walks very slowly. "Just try walking very slowly, and you will be surprised – a new quality of awareness starts happening in the body. Eat slowly, and you will be surprised – there is great relaxation. Do everything slowly... just to change the old pattern, just to come out of old habits. "First the body has to become utterly relaxed, like a small child, then only start with the mind.
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Suffering exists because of your being, the way you are , not due to circumstances. Never think that somebody else or your childhood or your past is responsible for your present suffering. You suffer because you have not yet reached state of meditation. You can't sit silently twenty four hours, whatsoever you do, do it with awareness; this is meditation. Walking, walk attentively, as if walking is everything; eating, eat with awareness, as if eating is everything; rising, rise with awareness; sitting, sit with awareness; all your actions become conscious, your mind does not travel beyond this moment, it remains in the moment, settles in the moment – this is meditation. Start with small things like bathing, eating, cleaning dishes etc. It can be very difficult in the beginning. Never expect quick results, only those who have infinite patience get quick results, those who are in hurry miss it.
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Prabhaker replied to Abi's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Abi Loneliness becomes the mirror. Society is the deception. That;s why you are always afraid of being alone – because you will have to know yourself, and you will have to know yourself in your nudity, in your nakedness. You are afraid. To be alone is difficult. Whenever you are alone, you immediately start doing something so you are not alone. You may start reading the newspaper, or you may put on the T.V., or you may go to some club to meet some friends, or you may go to visit some family – but you must do something. Why? Because the moment you are alone your identity melts, and all that you know about yourself becomes false and all that is real starts bubbling up. A man must move into solitariness to know himself. One need not be there forever, that is futile, but one has to be in solitude for a time, for a period. And the length of the period will depend on each individual. Mohammed was in solitude for a few months; Jesus for only a few days; Mahavir for twelve years and Buddha for six years. It depends. But unless you come to the point where you can say, ”Now I have know the essential,” it is a must to be alone. -
Prabhaker replied to The Universe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Lao Tzu lived in silence. He always avoided talking about the truth that he had attained and he always rejected the idea that he should write it down for the generations to come. At the age of ninety he took leave of his disciples. He said goodbye to them, and he said, ”Now I am moving towards the hills, towards the Himalayas. I am going there to get ready to die. It is good to live with people, it is good to be in the world while you are living, but when one is getting nearer to death it is good to move into total aloneness, so that you move towards the original source in your absolute purity and loneliness, uncontaminated by the world.” The disciples felt very, very sad, but what could they do? They followed him for a few hundred miles, but by and by Lao Tzu persuaded them to go back. Then alone he was crossing the border, and the guard on the border imprisoned him. The guard was also a disciple. And the guard said: ”Unless you write a book, I am not going to allow you to move beyond the border. This much you must do for humanity. Write a book. That is the debt you have to pay, otherwise I won’t allow you to cross.” So for three days Lao Tzu was imprisoned by his own disciple. It is beautiful. It is very loving. He was forced – and that’s how this small book, the book of Lao Tzu, TAO TE CHING, was born. He had to write it, because the disciple wouldn’t allow him to cross. -
You can learn a technique for meditation, but technique is not meditation. Meditation happens, you can not do it. It is a growth: a growth of your total living, out of your total living. Meditation is not something that can be added to you as you are. It can come to you only through a basic transformation, a mutation. It is a flowering, a growth. Growth is always out of the total; it is not an addition. You must grow toward meditation. This total flowering of the personality must be understood correctly. Otherwise one can play games with oneself, one can occupy oneself with mental tricks. Language must be dropped. I don’t mean that you have to suppress it or eliminate it. I only mean that it does not have to be a twenty-four-hour-a-day habit for you. When you walk, you need to move your legs. But if they go on moving when you are sitting, then you are mad. You must be able to turn them off. In the same way, when you are not talking with anyone, language must not be there. It is a technique to communicate. When you are not communicating with anybody it should not be there. If you are able to do this, you can grow into meditation. Meditation is a growing process, not a technique. A technique is always dead, so it can be added to you, but a process is always alive. It grows, it expands. Whenever someone begins meditation, he will become aware of many things of which he was not previously aware, and because of that awareness he will suffer. This is how things are, and one has to pass through them. So if you start meditation and you do not suffer, it means it is not meditation, but just a hypnosis. That means you are just drugging yourself. You are becoming more unconscious. With a real, authentic meditation you will suffer more, because you will become more aware. You will see the ugliness of your anger, you will feel the cruelty of your jealousy, you will now know the evidence of your behaviour. Now, in every gesture, you will begin to feel where a hidden animal in you, and you will suffer. But this is how one grows. Growth is a painful birth. If you do not escape, if you remain there with your suffering, one day suffering will disappear and you will have grown into more awareness. Suffering disappears in two ways. You become unconscious; then suffering disappears for you. But, really, suffering remains there. It cannot disappear. It remains there! Really, your consciousness has disappeared, so you cannot feel it, you cannot be aware of it. If you become more conscious, in the meantime you will have to suffer more. But accept suffering as a part of growth, as a part of training, as just a discipline, and then one day, when your consciousness has gone beyond your suffering, suffering will disappear not just for you – it will disappear objectively. Use suffering as a stepping-stone; do not escape from it. If you escape from it, you are escaping from your destiny, from the possibility of going beyond knowledge by using suffering as a device.
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You are a lovely person, but it would be better if you provide some relevant links so I can learn more about India !
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Don't spread rumors , it has nothing to do with India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth How can any other country assess Indian nuclear weapons ? They are well protected.
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You must be trying hard to remain miserable, it is not natural. Once you know the knack of meditation, life will become a celebration. Many Indian Yogis leave their body due to spiritual reasons, but longevity is possible through Yoga. Once you taste the meditation, I will tell you the secret of longevity.
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Still the mission was successful. India’s space agency launched a record 104 satellites from a single rocket this year. You are misinformed. What is the source of your information ?
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@Fidelio Everybody is not illiterate in India. India was the first nation to successfully reach the Mars on its first attempt. India has launched 180 satellites for 23 different countries. India is a nuclear weapons state. Rulers of India are well educated persons and they used to visit Devraha Baba, he was very famous and reputed person. As I already mentioned that the first President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than seventy years ago, said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child – that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century – and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad (India) High Court Barrister had stated that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba.
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Ageing is a phenomenon where cell destruction predominates over the reconstruction/growth process. Yoga does not go against this natural process, but the speed of the degeneration can be slowed down by regular practice of a balance set of asanas, pranayama, relaxation, meditation, chantings, cleansing exercises etc. With the stages of ageing, some associated physiological changes are loss of muscle mass, bone density, flexibility, joint disorders, lowering of circulatory system and sleep disorder. Some few Indian Yogis who maintained excellent health till their old age were Trailanga swami who lived over 280 years of age, shanker Mai Jiew who died at 120 years of age and Devraha Baba who was believed to have lived to over 250 years. The first President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than seventy years ago, said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child – that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century – and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. 250 Year Old Devraha Baba of Vrindavan (India) Translation Reporter say: This is Devraha Baba, who lives on this wooden platform. He is not a robber or a psycho but a person highly honored and respected not only in India but also far from its borders. He was visited on many occasions by famous and rich Kashigy , Sultan of Brunei , artists and actors - Liz Taylor, Roger Moore; rulers of India that visited him were Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi, and ministers of the government. So it is our turn now to see him! Let see what is happening these are high power people from Delhi that brought their children suffering from diarrhea. Conventional drugs would not help them so these people are using alternative methods to deal with their problems. Baba cures people using only words and by touching them using his foot. Up to 3,000 people come to see him daily, some for advise, some to get healed and others just to see him. As we can see, people are sitting by the fence and waiting for when Baba would give them a sign to approach. It happens that people being sent away by means of his young helper. Rumors about this wise man spread from eastern India, state of Bihar in the mid-1950s, when a village was attacked by a pack of wild bears eating people. That is when Baba appeared from one of the huts and stopped the bears by raising his hand. Since then Baba was seen in other parts of India. He could understand the language of animals, heal people by his look or word, give advice and tell the future. In the past he would do predictions of political future for whole countries. For that he was once arrested and only personal involvement of Indira Gandhi helped to get him out of the jail. Some say that Baba was her personal advisor during her last days. This holy man could not protect her but predicted the day she would die (she wrote about it). Question and Answer begins by the reporter: Question by reporter: What do you eat? Answer by Devraha Baba: Nothing by your standards. Question by reporter: How old are you and do you remember your parents? Answer by Devraha Baba: I do not have any age. I was born from the river Yamuna when it was blessed by Krishna. (At this point somebody from the crowd commented that he is 200 years old or just under that.) Question by reporter: People talk about the end of the world that is expected at the end of this century (this interview is dated to mid 1980s), can you comment on that? Answer by Devraha Baba: This is a secret and the time has not come yet to reveal that. I can only say that what ever would happen will be good for the humanity, as I am praying for that. Reporter says: After such an answer we had little hope for our next question: What can you say about the future of the Soviet Union? And here a miracle happened as we got a long answer from this Person who does not even know how a radio or a newspaper looks like: Answer by Devraha Baba: Litva has distorted the Baltics and the 3 Republics would separate, other Republics would follow up. You are going thru a difficult period of suffering but at the end everything will be ok as you will be purged. Your President Gorbachev will visit India this or next year. Let him come over and I would give a good advice to him and bless. Question by reporter: Can we pass on your message to him? Answer by Devraha Baba: No, let him come in person. Question by reporter: Can we get a blessing from you? Reporter says: Here there was a delay for about 15 minutes during which he would glance at us with one eye, greenish and bottomless. Meanwhile it was commented from the crowd that his last blessing happened about 1 year ago and that he does not bless when people ask for it. So we were about to leave when Baba decided to bless me. I am going to comment on my feelings while it is happening. They say that usually insulation is used between the foot and a head to be on a safe side. Reporter says: Later When saying goodbye Baba told us not to leave Delhi quickly after we would return there. We forgot all about it and went off to another assignment. Just recently we found that a train near Bombay was derailed. We were planning to take this train. Well, it could be just a coincidence, or maybe not?
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Sitting silently, doing nothing, the spring comes and the grass grows by itself. There is no need to do anything – the grass-is growing by itself. And so grows the soul… so grows the inner being! It needs nothing; no prop is needed…. If you can sit silently doing nothing, the spring is not far away, the spring is bound to come. It always comes in silence. Those who are in search will need infinite patience. Patience is the greatest religious quality; if you have patience nothing else is needed. Patience is enough, enough unto itself. Patience means hope, trust, and without any hurry, without any impatience. Impatience simply shows that you are not trustful. Impatience simply shows that you want to impose yourself upon the will of God, that you want it right now. You don’t want him to work on his own. Impatience means, “My will is greater than your will.” Patience means, “I surrender my will to your will. Let your be my will, so whenever I am ripe, whenever — if it takes an eternity it is okay — I will trust, I will hope. I will not lose my heart, I will not be disheartened.”
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Frustration is a by product: the more you expect, the more you create your own frustration. So frustration is not really the problem, it is the result. Expectation is the problem. Frustration is just a shadow which follows expectation. If you don't expect even for a single moment, if you are in a state of mind where there is no expectation, then it is simple. Everything we do, we do with expectations. If I love someone, an expectation enters without my even knowing it. I begin to expect love in return. I have not yet loved, I have not grown into love yet, but the expectation has come and now it will destroy the whole thing. Enlightenment is a simple realization that everything is as it should be. That is the definition of enlightenment: everything is as it should be, everything is utterly perfect as it is. This is what enlightenment is. It is the understanding that all is good, that all is beautiful – and it is beautiful as it is. Everything is in tremendous harmony, in accord.
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You are a lucky guy, don't listen to anybody !
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Prabhaker replied to Wouter's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If you stop believing, then you know, but you can believe things unknowingly. You can believe that democracy is good or communism is good. You can believe that your parents , girlfriend , wife or children really love you. You can believe that Hitler was bad and Gandhi was good. You can believe that Islam is evil and Christianity is good. Belief is a state of non-understanding. People believe because they don’t know. You don’t believe in the sun, you don’t believe in the trees, you don’t believe that the trees are green; you simply know. To know the real, all beliefs have to be dropped. -
Prabhaker replied to The Universe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Those who don't ask these kinds of questions ! Once, Narada, a great Indian sage, was on his way to see God. His meeting with God used to be very interesting as Narada was also a great traveller and full of information about what was happening around the world. In true sense, he was like the first mythological journalist, bringing peoples’ news to God and informing people about what God had to say on certain issues. So while playing God’s hymns on the veena (musical instrument), Narada came across an old saint sitting under a tree. The old saint told Narada, “Please ask God one question on my behalf. I have made all the effort needed to last me three lifetimes, now how much more is needed? When is my liberation going to happen?” Narada assured him that the next time he meets God he will ask this question. As he crossed another forest, he came across a young man dancing and playing on his musical instrument —ektara. Just to tease the young fellow, Narada asked him, “Do you have any question for God, would you like to know anything from him?” The young man behaved as if he had not heard what Narada said. He was totally immersed in his song and dance. Narada returned after a few days. He told the old saint, “I asked God about you. He said three more lifetimes.” Narada’s reply got the old saint into a rage. He threw away the beads and books saying, “It is absolutely unjust, three lives more. This is not what I expected from God.” Narada laughed. He then went to see the young man who was still dancing, singing and playing on his ektara. Narada said, “Although you did not have any question for God, I asked him about you. But after seeing the angry reaction of the old saint, I’m scared to to tell you his answer.” Again, the young man behaved as if he hadn’t heard Narada. He continued with his singing. Finally, gathering some courage, Narada said, “When I asked about you, God said ‘Tell the young man who is singing my prayers that he will have to be born as many times as there are leaves on the tree under which he is dancing.” Listening to what Narada said, the young man started dancing and singing even more ecstatically. He said, “Don’t tell me, it’s unbelievable, so fast? There are so many trees in the world and so many leaves… only this tree and these many leaves? When you next go to God, give him my gratitude, my thanks.” And it is mentioned in the epics that the young man became liberated that very moment. Liberation happened under the same tree in the presence of Narada. If totality of trust arises inside, time becomes meaningless. It is not needed. However, if there is no trust, even three-four lifetimes are not enough for liberation. -
You are only 31, you do cardio, weights, swimming. 2-3 times a week. You mentioned that, "I usually get this triggered by physical activity and not enough rest, and stress." Something is wrong with your way of life. Modern medical science treat the symptoms, not the patient. It can cure your few problems at the most but can't make you tougher mentally and physically.
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If you want to know mystery of yoga and Patanjali's yog sutras. Read ......Yoga : The Alpha and the Omega ~ by Osho Download 10 volumes form internet in pdf format.
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@Harikrishnan The definitive work by B.K.S. Iyengar, the world s most respected yoga teacher. B.K.S. Iyengar has devoted his life to the practice and study of yoga. It was B.K.S. Iyengar s unique teaching style, bringing precision and clarity to the practice, as well as a mindset of yoga for all , which has made it into the worldwide phenomenon it is today. Light on Yoga is widely called the bible of yoga and has served as the source book for generations of yoga students around the world. It is the classic text for all serious students of yoga. B.K.S. Iyengar s own photo-illustrated, step-by-step guides to every yoga routine. Week-by-week development plan with a total of 300 weeks to allow gradual progression from novice to advanced technique. B.K.S. Iyengar s unique and inspired guide to Pranayama yoga breathing techniques. B.K.S. Iyengar s yoga philosophy for life and an introduction to the spiritual aspects of yoga. Yoga sequences and asanas to help heal a range of specific illnesses and conditions. http://yogabog.com/sites/default/files/files/Iyengar_B_K_S__The_Illustrated_Light_On_Yoga.pdf