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..but we can't compare it with masturbation. If you are alert, sex will be impossible. If a man is alert while making love, the more he is alert, the more it will be difficult. He will not be able to get an erection. The same energy will move into alertness. Tantra has used this. It has tried in many ways. A beautiful naked woman will be there just as an object for meditation, and the seeker, the meditator, will sit before the nude woman meditating on her body, her form, her proportions, just waiting for the first sensation in his sex center. The moment the sensation is there, be will close his eyes. He will forget the woman. He will close his eyes, and he will become alert of the sensation. Then sex energy is being transformed into alertness. He is allowed to meditate on the nude woman only up to the point when the sensation is felt. When he has to close his eyes and move to his own sensation and become alert there , the same as is done in sneezing. And why does this flash happen? Because mind is not there. The basic thing is that if the mind is not there and you are alert.

what will you do in the remaining time? Whatever you will gain in twenty minutes…what are you going to do in the remaining twenty-three hours and forty minutes? – something anti-meditative. Naturally your twenty minutes will be defeated. The enemies are too big, and you are giving too much juice and energy to the enemies and just twenty minutes for meditation. You can learn meditation for twenty minutes or forty minutes – learning is one thing – but then you have to carry whatever you have learned day in, day out. Meditation has to become just like your heartbeat. You cannot say, “Is it enough, to breathe for twenty minutes every day?” Twenty minutes time is not meditation, that time is only to refresh yourself – and then again you will have to work, earn, do your job and a thousand and one things. Just remain alert whether it is still there inside or it has disappeared. This continuity then becomes a garland of twenty-four hours. Only then, will you be able to experience divine – not before it.

Man had his first realization of samadhi in the experience of sex. But sex is a costly affair, a very costly affair indeed. And it does not last for more than a moment; after a momentary climax, we return again to our original position. For a second, we reach towards a different plane of existence; for a second, we climb towards a peak of immense satisfaction. The momentum is towards the pinnacle, but we have hardly taken a step when we fall back to first base. A wave aspires to reach the sky, but it has hardly risen noticeably when it already starts to fall. We are the same. It is for that ecstasy, for that joy, for that realization, that we accumulate energy from time to time and again start the ascent. We almost touch that subtler plane, that higher realm, but again we fall back to our original position, minus a considerable amount of power and energy. So long as man’s mind remains immersed in this river of sex he will repeatedly rise and fall again.

You can go into meditation just by sitting, but then be just sitting; do not do anything else. If you can be just sitting, it becomes meditation. Be completely in the sitting; but it is difficult. You can sit very easily when you are doing something else but the moment you are just sitting and doing nothing, it becomes a problem. Every fiber of the body begins to move inside; every vein, every muscle, begins to move. You will begin to feel a subtle trembling; you will be aware of many points in the body of which you have never been aware before. And the more you try to just sit, the more movement you will feel inside you. If you begin with strong determination sitting, you will feel much disturbance inside. The more you try to just sit, the more disturbance will be felt; you will become aware only of your insane mind and nothing else. It will create depression, you will feel frustrated. You will not feel blissful; rather, you will begin to feel that you are insane. And sometimes you may really go insane. If you make a sincere effort to 'just sit,' you may really go insane. Only because people do not really try sincerely does insanity not happen more often. You may not be ready to be aware of all the insanity that is inside you; you must be allowed to get to know certain things gradually. Knowledge is not always good; it must unfold itself slowly as your capacity to absorb it grows.

@RossE Enlightenment (touched by the truth of existence) is the ultimate truth—the seeker disappears but the truth is found. From enlightenment there is no possibility of falling back, because you are no longer there to fall back. As long as you are, there is a possibility. Only your absence is the guarantee that you cannot fall back. if you have a little experience of the no-mind is the transition period, from human to divine. But one can fall back, because it is so new and so fragile and your past is so old and so strong—it can pull you back; it is still there. Awakening is getting very close to your center. And as you get closer to the center, falling back becomes more and more difficult because your new experience is gathering power, strength, experience, and the old is losing. But the old is still there; it has not disappeared. Ordinarily people don’t fall from awakening, but the possibility remains: one can fall. From enlightenment, falling is simply impossible. You are gone forever; not even a shadow or a trace of you is left behind.

It is not compatible with passion. What is passion? Passion is a sort of fever, a sort of trembling of your being, a sort of inner wavering. Passions means you are not content as you are. You would like something else, you would like something more, you would like a different pattern of life, a different style. Then you think you will be happy and contented. A mind full of passion is a mind full of discontent with the present. A mind with passion desires, hopes, but never lives; it postpones. It says tomorrow, always tomorrow. It is never here and now. A mind full of passion always goes on missing the present - and the present is the only reality there is. So a mind full of passion goes on missing reality. It cannot reflect that which is, it cannot reflect the truth, it cannot reflect the dhamma, the way. It cannot reflect the real that surrounds you, because you are never here. Consciousness has to become without content. That is the meaning of being passionless. When you are, simply you are, I call it primal innocence. You are not hankering, desiring for anything. You are just in this moment, absolutely here and now. A great content arises into your being, a tremendous satisfaction arises into your being. You feel blessed. In fact that is what you are seeking. In all your desires you are seeking a state of contentment. But desires cannot bring it. Even in your desires, in your greed, in your sexuality, in your ambition, that's exactly what you are seeking - but you are seeking in a wrong direction. It cannot happen that way. It has never happened that way. Meditation is the way. That way is right now-here available to you.

@Gabor Bornemissza The negative ideas of your mind have to be released, not repressed by positive ideas. You have to create a consciousness which is neither positive nor negative. That will be the pure consciousness. In that pure consciousness you will live the most natural and blissful life. You will be surprised that if you don’t choose, if you remain in a choiceless awareness, your life will start expressing something which is beyond both positive and negative, which is higher than both. So you are not going to be a loser. It is not going to be negative, it is not going to be positive, it is going to be existential.

One has to do something in life. Somebody is a carpenter and somebody is a president, and somebody is a businessman and somebody is a policeman. These are ways of livelihood, these are ways of getting bread and butter, a shelter. They can't change your inner being. Whether you are a policeman or a businessman does not make any difference: one has chosen one way to earn his livelihood, the other has chosen something else. Meditation is life, not livelihood. It has nothing to do with what you do; it has everything to do with what you are. Yes, business should not enter into your being, that is true. If your being also has become businesslike, then it is difficult to meditate and dissolve your ego. You cannot carry your cleverness there. In fact, cleverness is not true intelligence either; cleverness is a poor substitute for intelligence. People who are not intelligent learn how to be clever.

To be a sufferer of depression simply means you have repressed too much. Depression is nothing but repression. you are depressed so much because you have not been allowed to express yourself. Dynamic Meditation is expression. In expressing yourself, in catharting all that has been repressed in your unconscious, you will be unburdened, you will become saner, healthier. http://www.oshodynamic.com/index.html http://www.oshonisarga.com/?page=dynamicmeditation Begin with your insanity, not with a sitting posture. Allow your insanity. If you dance madly, the opposite happens within you. With a mad dance, you begin to be aware of a silent point within you; with sitting silently you begin to be aware of your madness. The opposite is always the point of awareness. If you begin with something active, positive, alive, moving, you will begin to feel an inner stillness growing. The more it grows the more it will be possible for you to use a sitting or lying posture.

Watching comes as a consequence of consciousness. You cannot practice watching; you can only practice consciousness. Watching comes as a consequence, as a shadow, as a result, as a byproduct. The more you become conscious, the more you go into watching. So, you can watch gaps between trips. Watch these gaps, as you will become more and more conscious, you will be able to watch thoughts. Just watch. Don't say anything to the thoughts. Don't judge. Don't condemn. Don't tell them to move.

It doesn't means that you become a masochist, if pain is unavoidable accept it but don't invite pain. A posture should be such that you can forget your body. When you are reminded continuously of the body, you are uncomfortable. Whenever a posture is comfortable it is bound to be steady. You fidget if the posture is uncomfortable. Everybody has to be unique because every body is carrying a unique soul. So never listen to anybody’s advice. You have to find your own posture. There is no need to go to any teacher to learn it; your own feeling of comfort should be the teacher. Meher Baba attained enlightenment through staring at the ceiling above ,lying in bed, not doing anything.

A certain dryness can result from the awakening of the Kundalini. It burns all that is unnecessary from the body. If you are a angry person, you will find yourself in great difficulty. If you are a loving person, you will not be much affected by awakening. Madness happens many times, but if you know the technique, then meditation can happen. So be concerned with meditation and not with Kundalini. After awakening there is confusion due to contradictory thoughts, a whole crowd of them, each thought asserting itself as the whole, each thought possessing you as if it were the whole. You can cease to be confused only if you do not deny one particular thought in favor of another, if you do not deny anything – if you do not deny communism in favor of religiousness, if you do not deny God in favor of a philosophy of atheism. If you accept everything that you think, there is no choice to be made and tensions disappear. If you go on choosing, you go on adding to your tensions. Awareness must be choiceless. You must be aware of your total thought process, the total confusion. The moment you become aware of it, you will know that it is all confusion. Nothing is to be chosen. The very moment you become aware of the total process of your mind is a moment of nonidentity. Then you are not identified with your mind. For the first time you know yourself as consciousness and not as mind. Mind itself becomes an object to you.

@kundalini There are authentic psychic states and false psychic states. Kundalini could be only a mental experience, it does not necessarily mean that it is a false experience. You see a dream at night. Now this dream is a fact because it has happened. You have replied after more than 24 hours, you visited this forum in between for a long duration but didn't replied. You are not in any hurry. Your answers are politically correct, you are not in a state of confusion. You are very well managing your energy already.

The ego is the source of all neurosis, because the ego is the center of all falsity, of all perversions. The whole problem is with the ego. If you live with the ego, sooner or later you will become neurotic. You will have to become, because ego is the basic neurosis. In between a normal person and the mad people in the madhouses there is not vast difference -- only a difference of degrees, not of any quality, quantity. You may be ninety-eight degrees, and they have gone beyond hundred. You can go any time; the difference is not vast. A madman is a man whose ego has taken total possession. And just the opposite is the case with an enlightened man who has dropped the ego completely. Neurosis has never been so epidemic in the past as it is now. It is almost becoming a normal state of human mind. It has to be understood. The past was spiritually more healthy, and the reason was that mind was not fed so many things simultaneously; the mind was not overloaded. The modern mind is overloaded, and that which remains unassimilated creates neurosis. A really healthy person is one who takes fifty percent of his time to assimilate his experiences. Fifty percent action, fifty percent inaction – that is the right balance. Fifty percent thinking, fifty percent meditation – that is the cure. Meditation is nothing but a time when you can relax utterly into yourself, when you close all your doors, all your senses, to the outside stimulus. You disappear from the world. You forget the world as if it exists no more – no newspapers, no radio, no television, no people. You are alone in your innermost being, relaxed, at home. In these moments, all that has become accumulated is assimilated. That which is worthless is thrown out. Meditation functions like a double-edged sword: on the one hand it assimilates all that is nourishing, and it rejects and throws out all that is junk.

Meditation is a path towards enlightenment. Enlightenment happens, but that doesn't mean that it is an outcome of your effort; just by your effort it is not going to happen. The reality is: you have to make all possible efforts, yet it is not going to happen through your efforts,but you will be prepared through your efforts to receive it. There is no act more courageous than the act of attaining one's own self. There is no journey that calls for such courage and fearlessness as the journey to the self. Because the path is full of difficulties that are encountered nowhere else. It requires the maximum austerity. The mind wants to bypass the long, arduous journey and enter directly into enlightenment. That cannot be, for salvation lies in the traversing of the path. The path is not a readymade path; it is also your development. In the inner journey, one cannot reach the destination without growing from what he was at the point of departure. Those who say that it is possible are simply deceiving you because it is not a journey from one place to another place, it is a journey from one state of being to another state of being. You have to grow in the process of the journey because it is in that growth that you will be cleaned, purified and transformed. It is in the agony of the process of the journey that you will grow. This pain, this agony is indispensable. If you seek short cuts you are only deceiving yourself. Enormous effort is the path. Will is required to undertake such a mighty effort. You must be willing to stake your own self in the effort. Liberation can be bought only if you stake yourself totally. Nothing less will do. If you give something else, it will not do; you have not paid the full price. Only when you give completely of yourself is the price.

Sometimes there are psychological reasons of pressures in your forehead. Psychological pain can be dissolved; and only psychological pain can be dissolved. The other pain, the physical pain, is part of life and death; there is no way to dissolve it. But it never creates a problem. Have you ever observed? — The problem is only when you are thinking about it. The real problem is always psychological. The physical pain is part of life. When you start thinking about it, it is not physical pain at all; it has become psychological. The psychological pain ends only by accepting it in its totality. If you accept pain, if you don’t deny it, if you are not scared of it, if you accept it as part of life with no judgement, with no idea of whether it is good or bad – it is simply there, it is a fact, neither good nor bad…. Once you accept the facticity of it you start transcending, you become more alert, more a witness. The pain is there but you are no more identified with it. If you want a life absolutely painless, then you will have to live a life absolutely pleasureless. They come together in one package. They are not two things really; they are one thing — not different, not separate, and cannot be separated.

Death is beautiful only for those who have lived their life beautifully, who have not been afraid to live, who have been courageous to live – who loved, who danced, who celebrated. A miserly person will die with clenched fists—still holding and clinging, still trying not to die, still trying not to relax. A loving person will die with open fists—sharing…even sharing his death as he shared his life. You can see everything written on the face—whether this man has lived his life fully alert, aware. If he has, then on his face there will be a light shining; You come close to him and you will feel silent—not sad, but silent. How you die reflects your whole life, how you lived. In that one moment your whole life becomes condensed. Meditation provides a natural and a simple way to consciously ‘die before you die’ – to rehearse dying.

How do you know ? Are you celibate now ? Do you still have ego ? Do you come to realize soul ?

When you are dying, it is not only fear that makes you unconscious; you already have too much unconsciousness – fear only takes away the thin layer of consciousness and you are drowned in your own unconsciousness. In meditation, when you are witnessing, you are by and by, without your knowing it, dispelling unconsciousness. You are becoming more and more conscious and a moment comes when your whole being is full of consciousness. This is witnessing. So when death comes, you witness death. When life was there, you witnessed life. Meditation is a kind of metaphysical dying. Through our becoming familiar with that inner passage, we can relax when it extends into our physical dying. In meditating as in dying we close our eyes (generally); we drop the effort to control and instead relax. In doing that we are leave the outer world for the interior one. We leave the world of ‘the other’ for a state of aloneness. Our identity as a body, a persona – created by the various positions we may have held, the relationships we are in, by what we have achieved and so on – becomes irrelevant when we move into our inner world. So meditating provides a natural and a simple way to consciously ‘die before you die’ – to rehearse dying. And of course the more familiar you are with entering meditation the easier it will become and the deeper will be the effect. The fear has reasons. The fear arises because it is always somebody else who dies. You always see death from the outside, and death is an experience of the innermost being. It is just like watching love from the outside. You may watch for years, but you will not come to know anything of what love is. You may come to know the manifestations of love, but not love itself. We know the same about death. Just the manifestations on the surface – the breathing has stopped, the heart has stopped, the man as he used to talk and walk is no more there: just a corpse is lying there instead of a living body. These are only outer symptoms. Death is the transfer of the soul from one body to another body, or in cases when a man is fully awakened, from one body to the body of the whole universe. It is a great journey, but you cannot know it from the outside. From outside, only symptoms are available; and those symptoms have made people afraid. Death happens to you involuntarily: you do not want to die but you have to die. That is why death is a sorrow, a pain, an anguish. And the pain of death is so intense that the only way to bear it is to become unconscious. A meditator can die consciously. A man who has been going deeper into meditation passes the door of death many times.

Experiment with whatever technique appeals to you. And remember, not all techniques suit everyone; what suits you may not suit your friend. And having practiced a method for some months, you may find you have outgrown it. There is nothing sacrosanct about meditative methods: they are practical means to access a natural, inherent quality. Feel free to playfully experiment with them. Having selected the method, try it for at least seven days consecutively. And when you are trying it out, give it all you have got. By then either the initial attraction has been confirmed or not. If you feel that this is your method, make a commitment to continue it for a minimum of three months. After three months you can continue with it or choose another. Find any technique that you can add to your daily life to help remind you to stay aware as much of your day as possible.

Express the negative and allow the positive. If anger comes, don't repress it; if aggression comes, don't repress it. Not saying that go and kill a person. but there a thousand and one ways to express the repressed emotions. You can go into the garden and chop wood. Have you watched woodcutters? They look more silent than anybody else. Have you watched hunters? Hunters are very good people. The do a very dirty thing, but they are good people. Something happens to them while they are hunting. Killing animals, their anger, their aggression is dissolved.You can just go into the forest and shout, scream. Many meditative techniques require one to sit still and silent. But for most of us accumulated stress in our body-mind makes that difficult.We need to let go of our tensions. Active meditation are designed to effectively release stress, tensions-energy blocks which block the natural flow of energies in our body, allowing us to become more peaceful and relaxed. http://oshokundalini.com/four-stages-of-osho-kundalini-meditation.html http://www.oshodynamic.com/index.html

Nobody here said that lesser number of women become enlightened in comparison to men. How do you know that humans can become so called 'enlightened' ? Can you even quote a scientific study ? Who told you this ? Yin Yang is perhaps the most known and documented concept used within Taoism. It is one of the dominant concepts shared by different schools throughout the history of Chinese philosophy. Indian traditions call it Shiva and a Shakti. I have explained it earlier that there is a distinction between gender and polarity. Many, though certainly not all, women resonate with the feminine principle. Many women initiate through dance, music , love, devotion, prayer. These same women may not open so much through fasting and isolation and silent sitting meditation. Do you want to force 'path of meditation' on all of them ?

If you want to get rid of misery, get rid of the lust for happiness. And when there is no misery, there is happiness. But it is not because you desire it; it is because you don’t have any desire. In a deep desire-less state, you are full of bliss.

No, when you think, you miss the present. Unless you are alert and aware, you will go on thinking nonsense, While eating , become a witness of your eating, watch every movement of your hands, mouth. Eat slowly and consciously, then you will know what living in present moment means.

How day dreaming could be 'accepting of reality' ? Human mind as such is a daydreaming faculty. Unless you go beyond the mind, you will continue to daydream. Because the mind cannot exist in the present. It can either exist in the past or in the future. There is no way for the mind to exist in the present. To be in the present is to be without mind. One possibility is that it can go on chewing, rechewing the past again and again. You go again and again backwards; again and again to the past moments, beautiful moments, happy moments. They are few and far between, but you cling to them. You avoid the ugly moments, the miserable moments. But this you cannot do continuously because this is futile; the activity seems to be meaningless. The mind creates a ‘meaningful’ activity – that’s what daydreaming about the future is. The mind says, ‘Yes, past is good, but past is finished; nothing can be done about it. Something can be done about the future because it is yet to come.’ So you choose out of your past experiences those which you would like to repeat again, and you drop experiences that were very miserable, painful; that you don’t want to repeat in the future. So your future dreaming is nothing but past modified, better arranged, more decorated, more agreeable, less painful, more pleasant. This your mind goes on doing. And this way you go on missing reality.