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WOW. I had no idea Leo would make such a delusional comment. Jesus christ. Do you honestly not see the self-justification monkey mind at work here? Man I almost don't want to watch any of his future videos. Take a step back and examine what you're actually telling yourself here. I can't get into this any more. I can't believe you're likening the single most destructive human act possible to "stepping on microbes on the grass". Why can't there be a single fucking decent human being on this shitty planet.

I am actually quite relaxed, despite your non-sensical assumptions. Of course, our moods have absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand. Maybe next time you can actually contribute something!

More ad-hominems, insults, and trolling in place of an actual, coherent response. Wonderful!

Pathetic. The only thing you've stated at all is "mice and other rodents get chewed up on some farms", and instead of an actual reply, all you can do is point the finger at some "dogmatic asshole" when the only things I'm talking about are statistics and facts. You are completely lost. No idea why I keep having this conversation. Just serves to further sever my faith in humanity.

Oh, the ignorance. I suggest you do some actual research before commenting again. Modern day animal agriculture is the primary driver behind almost every single major environmental illness our planet faces today- deforestation, ocean acidification, global warming.. all progressing at alarming rates. This is the toll that slaughtering two billion lives every week takes. For some perspective, only 100 billion humans have ever lived in all of history. A cow farm of 2,500 produces as much waste as hundreds of thousands of humans, releasing that much methane, many times more potent that CO2, into our atmosphere. If you want some more statistics I'd recommend checking out documentaries. Here are some actual facts for your brain: www.cowspiracy.com/facts We are losing an enormous amount of biodiversity every single day, for what? What is all of this death and destruction for? Something as inconsequential as a palette preference? This has gone way too far and needs to stop. This is not the "circle of life", this is systematic genocide that is harming not only other perfectly sentient, completely emotional beings, but ourselves and our planet. Aren't we supposed to be striving towards enlightenment along with a more holistic view of the world? One of the core consequences of the no-self philosophy is that compassion and love become principles of the highest order, and one cannot claim to have attained that while still contributing to this system. That is an action taken with low consciousness and awareness. You are the one cherry-picking data here. The truth is not "somewhere in the middle". The consequences are extremely well-known and all this data is publicly available, but, as we can see, the ego loves to feed lower consciousness humans with these ridiculous self-justifications. Take a step back and look at what is happening without your personal cravings and ego in the way.

Then I'm sorry but they still have work to do. There is absolutely zero reason to consume meat. The only fundamental reason why they continue to do so is to satisfy their cravings. If they had no cravings they would not spend their time and energy contributing to the single most destructive human act possible. As Leo said- once your awareness reaches a certain point, low consciousness action becomes impossible to continue. They are not fully aware of the consequences of their actions and the alternatives available.

spot on!!

hahahah. love this guy.

Another vegan over here! Thank you on behalf of all our animal friends :). It can be disconcerting at times to be on a forum that claims to be such high consciousness and yet so many continue to ignore something so basic- even Leo.