Spiral

I don’t know if this has any practical application. Beyond stressing the importance of authenticity, emotional openness and so on. I do not think faking it is a good idea.

It is mostly the depth and it being a stark contrast to us. I’m not sure what you mean by manifest, if you mean how women show their emotions. It mostly body language, tonality of voice and such. If you mean, how it makes us behave, generally more romantic and sexual interest. It is attractive in every aspect of life. Positive and negative emotions. A boring dead fish in bed, doesn’t appeal to men, partly for the same reason. Play, the original topic of this thread is to me as a guy to make women feel emotions. We can experience them through her. Which we like. Besides the obvious appeal of potentially getting her interested in us of course. We do want to get laid more generally than the emotional aspects. As for why people generally don’t talk about this? It’s partly because men talk about that attracts them sexually, which to greater degree is appearance. But also because men don’t understand what attracts them. It’s not important to us. Who is more important than why. Men might say they like a guy friend(mentally) with tits and so on. But they won’t actually in a romantic sense. Women generally don’t understand what attracts them either. People just talk about what they like. Men like tits like Leo says, and we do. But it’s not very useful advice.

@Xonas Pitfall it’s deeply feminine to experience emotions deeply, and very appealing to men. However being an emotional mess and fluctuating constantly will not appeal to men. Negative emotions are also tricky, they belong and are important as well but we can’t deal with them very well. That is partly why men try to solve issues that women bring up, even though she just wants to talk about it. We were never supposed to be able to handle that. I think women generally feel emotions strongly enough. But they might try to hide them or resist being open enough to feel fully. So yeah it’s very attractive. However it dangerous to ask men these things. We don’t fully understand ourselves so we might just tell you what we like as oppose to what attracts us. The latter of course is more important if you’d like to find a male partner. All of these applies to heterosexual men that are more masculinity oriented.

@Xonas Pitfall I like the metaphor of a princess and a knight. A knight must be a competent fighter in order to make the princess feel safe. A knight that is too controlled by his emotions and feels them too strongly will not be a competent fighter. Even when the world is cruel and terrible, he needs to be in his full mental capacity. Perhaps even more so than normally. So while he can feel emotions, he doesn’t do so to the same extent the princess does. However this gives a him limited experience of the world, one the princess can provide when appropriate by just being herself. However the princess has another fear, what if he is a competent fighter but doesn’t want to risk his life to keep her safe? How that works, I’ll let you figure out. As for me, well I don’t experience the world as deeply as women do. I do really like being able to through her, experience more of the world. It’s like a hidden extra aspect of reality. It similar to always being able to only be see in monochrome but being able to wear glasses that lets you see colors.

A smile can be a from of transference of emotions, one that men deeply appreciate.

@Xonas Pitfall Men can give women the experience/feeling of safety. Men are not a proxy. Men want the emotion, the secret sauce they can’t generate on their own, that the woman’s reactivity enables.

A woman whom is not open and authentic will not be able give men what they desire in this case. Since they are a poor proxy.

Women crave safety, a to degree most men can’t fathom. Men can provide safety, or some men can. Women who feel safe are happy, and happy wife, happy life Women allow men to experience more, when they are happy, than what men can experience alone.

@Xonas Pitfall There isn’t much in men to experience, but they can influence how women feel in a meaningful way. How women feel can be proxy for men, to experience more emotionally. Sort of

It’s practically the same just in a different way. Men want to experience a woman. Women want men to give them an experience. Experience here is emotional.

It’s a negative spiral. Men find women less appealing romantically, this makes men lose motivation and ambition in general. This makes these men less appealing to women, whom in turn become more independent, traditionally masculine and in the eyes of many men even less appealing. Rinse and repeat. These sort of thing typically last about 40-50 years in total.

No, it’s inhabiting the qualities society wants women to have. So in other words it’s subject depending which culture you live in

I wouldn’t want to be in a short term or long term relationship with a girl who wants kids, unless I want them myself. My ex’s best friend tricked her boyfriend into getting her pregnant. My ex thought that was a completely reasonable thing to do. Sex isn’t that great, awesome in theory but when you think about it, it’s really is kinda silly. To put ourselves thru so many much pain and risk for something like that.

Preparation is everything. You need to warm up socially. I’ll admit I also find this of kind of thing scary tho.

No, don't worry about it guys

Do not have selfies

I work in finance, terribly orange in all the worst ways

@CARDOZZO I Swedish, and yeah of course, there are exceptions. But I suspect you won’t find them at “Stureplan” where the video was recorded.

@CARDOZZO Never said they’re not great looking. Unfortunately you might find that’s all they have

I live in Stockholm, Sweden. I would prefer going elsewhere for woman. Even for hookups

Yeah, furthermore people tend to value what is difficult to obtain.

Build the sort of life a women want to be apart of. Doesn’t mean rich but fun, exciting somehow.

@mud It’s the same, be compassionate and listen to them. Help them if they want it. You can not carry the all the worlds burdens on your shoulders. If it’s your kids it’s a bit different. You are responsible for them in a different way.

Trying to change people(that don’t want to change) is not a worthwhile endeavor. Only being objectively right won’t change people’s mind. Regardless of the topic. Learn to tolerate them, try to understand their point of view. Be compassionate, towards their failures.

I’ve found that if you only interact or see content with women online, they seem pretty awful. However in person they are normally quite kind and friendly. Perceiving them as kind and friendly, is probably better for your chances with them. The truth about how they actually are? probably somewhere in between.