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Haha, you funny, I want Mr. Lousey more, you got competition(; @Loreena

@Loreena Me? Will you marry me we will have beautiful children? LOL, JK (;

@Loreena You found your sole mate?

Thanks guys@Loreena@SFRL

I can't get rid of Loreena's name, so this is just for SFRL. Again you are making asumtions that are very understanble. I just went of topic, i will keep the friends subject and dating subject seperate. But it does not mean i am indesive about dating women, yes I know I said I would prefer to just be friends at first, but realistically that usually won't work, because they like to see if the guy will fuck them and if they do they are a man, so I will play the game and have some fun. I do agree that i have a scarcity mentality, thank you for pointing that out.@Loreena@SFRL

To continue, I am learning pick to survive in western society and follow the mob to atract my dream girlfriend@Loreena

If I try to actually tell a women what I want they will not be attracted. Because I value knowing the person on a deep level and not having sex at first the girl probably thought I was afraid to lay a move on her when I went on a blind date and therefore thought I was not a man, when in fact I am, I just have different values, but everyone judges especially if you don't fit a stereotype. I can attract women, I just like to see who they are first, but that does not work in western society most the time.

@Loreena I totally resonate with everything you are saying, unfortantly that is not how it works at all.

I also agree that it should be about falling in love rather than just fucking quick, but that is not really how it is with a lot of people. @Loreena

I am with Lorena on this, pick skills don't mean very much to me. I value deep emotional connections with women and I can still attract them.

Try not to make asumtions please.@aryberry

I am not talking about women. I am taking about presenting myself acturatly to all walks of life and to help people in the process, meaning I don't just present my self any random way, I figure out how to be my authentic self to everyone and attract people like me and help those that are confused. I dont know how you got not being happy without a girl out of that and despertly want to fuck?@aryberry

Well, I am not nessary talking about pick up. I am talking about simply making friends with all walks of life. So, world views do matter to a certain extent especcially when i say a view that is not holistic, like you just need to be comfortable with your self to atract women or you just need to be yourself. The problem with these statements is that they don't give people the whole view and this can hurt people if they don't see it as a perspective. I was hurt by people oversimplifying things to me. So it is like I have to be uncouncious to attract women, I think this is fine if it is not taken seriously, after all it is a wonderful game, but this unconsciousness can lead other people to serious confusion like I was. @Loreena

@SFRL But beyond pickup, I sometimes come off as immature in certain conversation dynamics. This bothers me because I might say some broad generalization or fact and realize it is completely wrong or some type of skewed world view. I do this when I am just trying to make the conversation flow, so it is like I am stuck in my head if I try to present my worldview and beliefs to people accurately and this can make the conversation not flow. By the way, I don't realize I am not presenting myself correctly until after I have spoken. I may also come off as arrogant even and I can't see this until after I have spoken. How do I fix this?

At first at least.

Well, I don't try to be on her side. I just say stuff and try to be funny. I also usually ask questions. But yes, being playful is such a challenge for me.

@SFRL Also, I don't feel comfortable joking with someone I don't know very well, so I just forget it. I am somewhat funny on a first date, but I become way more attractive once I get to know them better. At least that is where I am at right now.

@SFRL It is just hard to present myself acturatly because I thinking too much makes me unable to speak, but speaking without thinking gives people the wrong impression. The previous message gives examples.

I will say things like, business is for selfish people or most people are judgemental. Or I might make more generizations and I don't mean too and seem very opinionated, but I am just trying to be more coherent to make a conversation flow but at the same time I think I am shooting myself in the foot. The real me is very open-minded, and I know that I will attract other people that are opinionated if I continue to act like this without even knowing how to stop it.

I think it is because I have a hard time with verbal communication. I say something and I realize it is not what I want to say, but I can't fix what I say while I talk because on the fly I am present. I think it is because I kind of have an awkward vibe too. This is my guess, I am not a hundred percent sure.

I don't know. Maybe online dating will work for me. I seriously have great attraction skills once I get to know the person, I was friends with my first girl friend for 2 months, them we dated for another two months. Idk, I don't really really want to fuck. I do value deep connection a bit more. (: I just struggle with first impressions with everyone, always have, it could be because when you meet someone for the first time you see one side of their personality and there are hundreds of sides. I think everyone should be more open minded in the dating world and realize there are so many ways to figure out who is compatible with whom.

I am all for OSHA, if he was naughty. Hell yes, that is my nature.

@Shin@Loreena I would further say that I attract a woman when I know them well because then I know what makes them laugh most. My social circle is not around where I live, we all spit up when we went to college, but I still keep in touch. I can still be funny on the first date, but I think it is kind of silly to base everything on the first date, I personally like to get to know them more before I say he is boring, or I want to tap that, he is so funny, not worth it, or whatever women say or think after a first date.

Well, I struggle with attraction on the first date. But if they actually give me a chance to get to know me then I can get them addicted to me. That is why I like online dating, I find out if we are compatible. I can handle the testing. I just need to get past the first date. That is really all, I just screw it up to get a date or I screw it up during the date.

They are too far away usually.