Esoteric

I have watched many many hours of Sadhguru. I know very well about his Isha foundation and the work they do. Just because he doesn't resonate with me much doesn't mean I think what he does is bad. It's not all black and white. He does good stuff, and what he has accomplished is quite a feat. Sorry if I offended your leader.

When I first started my spiritual journey I used HoloSync . It for sure works.

There's something about Sadhguru that does not feel right to me. The way he always wants to elevate himself. Alot of those pics he throws up on youtube with a message is often him wanting to come across as a superhuman. He seems a bit full of himself. Also so there is so much unnecessary "info" he talks about. Like "don't sleep facing north or you'll get a stroke" and shit like that. "Do this for x amount of months of time and you'll get blah". But to each their own.

Lol some of you people. Let's hope Sadhguru never tells you to jump off a bridge.

On LSD I just enjoy laying in bed, no music, no distractions and just surrender. Everything is so clean and clear on acid so it's nice to just to let go and let it do its thing.

I believe you are right.

It was some years ago and I think only insufflated it, but I could've tried it orally (4-aco-dpt). DPT is a waste orally, but I actually don't remember if it is the same deal with the 4-version. I wasn't man enough to take it up the ass back then. With 4-ho-dpt you need a shitload to get through, so I took like 70mg I think and had an average trip. Just cozy you know, I only did it once and I remember I took a long walk on it at night. Though I have read some reports it can get you far if you are willing to take much. So I definitely prefer 4-aco-dpt over it.

It is like DPT light. Very mystical. It definitely has the DPT "vibe", no question about it. It doesn't have that euphoria you get from 4-aco-dmt but it has something else. I've tried 4-ho-dpt as well, and DPT "related" substances have that mystical and seductive quality for me. Apparently it is hard to synthesize, therefore it was available for a little while here, so I immediatey bought a shitload. So it is not classified here like DPT is, vendors just won't bring it in. EDIT: Though I should also add that I had only one toe in nondual teachings back then. DPT gave me very many non-dual experiences but I would use them very differently today.

Never heard of this one. Sounds good on paper. I have tried 4-aco-dpt many times. It's probably my favourite after DPT. For me it's more interesting than 4-aco-dmt, but I love that one too. Edit: Well Ayahuasca is probably my favourite, but I view that as a seperate thing almost

If you start using your environment as a teacher (like work, social situations) you will see directly that suffering happens when you need to grow and be humbled. It's easier to let go when you feel defeated and don't care. Then when arrogance and ego comes back, boom, more suffering. See for yourself. The key is to not curse God, but to know why it is happening and stay humble, and yeah that is very hard sometimes.

I don't know shit. I think that's the big lesson

Yeah, all my non-dual experiences have been positive as well. And far from every trip had "dark" qualities. Yeah, honestly I still don't know what to make of it. It's like no other thing.

That's probably it.

I don't mean dark in the sense of the world being cruel and you feel disconnected. I mean like a dark piece of literature, music or comedy bit that you enjoy. It's beautiful. It has a dissociative quality in that way. Like you can observe things really clearly from a grounded place. Daniel Pinchbeck above has gone so far to write in a book of his that it is a portal to Satan. Sounds like he had a pretty traumatic experience on it lol.

Also Leo. Please, listen to Bach's Brandenburg Concertos on it. Just try it once if you don't usually listen to stuff while tripping. No words can describe it.

Awesome Leo. You are a radical teacher. The thing with DPT dosage as well is that it builds on the previous dose. So if you take 50mg and fill it up with 25mg fyi it doesn't prolong the trip it actually takes you to 75mg dosage (if done within a certain time frame) I've also only had great experiences on it. I mean it is very dark sometimes, but in the most fascinating way. Also there is a church in Manhattan called The Church of True Inner Light that use DPT as their main sacrament. I remember getting their info-pdf. Pretty weird stuff. They basically believe in a Christian doctrine and that DPT is"weird and scary" until you go in with the belief that Christianity is right then it reveils Christian themed visuals and atmosphere. So it seems it can be deceptive to people that are naive, imo. Even more than your average psych

Btw if this is DPT it has tolerance and if it doesn't deplete serotonin it does something after intense trips with little recovery that does not feel healthy. I learnt the hard way, so be careful with that if its DPT. Damn I'm getting too caught up in this.

Pretty random seeing Tolle being a guest on Rubin

DiPT basically only distorts your auditory sense. Which is not that interesting. Psychedelics generally is great for enhancing music but DPT is on another dimension. It's a fucking religious experience. I'm telling you.

DPT got scheduled a couple of years ago here. I bought a fairly big stack just before.. But damn do I miss it. Listen to Bach on DPT. Trust me.

Yup. It metabolizes into 4-ho-dmt (psilocin). That is the theory anyway and it make sense since the first part have a different character. Though it is not identical to shrooms, and I believe that has to do with the other stuff that's in mushrooms besides psilocin and psilocybin.

Hmm. I'm not sure if it could be DPT. I've had years where I tripped on DPT. And yeah, it is the strongest psychedelic I have taken (and the most fucked up, beautiful, scary and intriguing) and I have taken ALOT of psychs since 2012, but I have never taken 5-meo-dmt and I am under the impression it blows DPT out of the water. I mean DPT gets you to a non-dual state extremely effectively.. And I can't think of a stronger tryptamine besides DMT (though I argue DPT can be more powerful) and 5-meo-dmt.. So either it is an extremely exotic tryptamine that is really new or has flown under the radar or Leo happens to be very sensetive to it. Yeah, really curious about this.

Yes, all societies were women have been honored and put on the same pedestal (or higher) have been peaceful societies. Tantra being a fine example. You had this system blossom around 500 AD in India. In a masculine driven society you all of a sudden see a system blossom that honores women. And the more non-dual (kaula) paths of Tantra and the more Goddess worship (like Krama school) the more peaceful. I find this really really interesting. Leo has a tremendous book about Tantra on his list. One of my favourite reads.

Who do you think are more content in life? Rupert Spira and Eckhart Tolle or Joe Rogan and Elliot Hulse? The latter two clearly suffers.

@Leo Gura I am guessing this is a tryptamine?