How to be wise

You need to come down from your absolute bubble. We are speaking in the relative plane here. There are awakened people (to various levels) and non-awakened people.

@Yali Not very different to the Buddhist monks who were very nationalistic.

@Yog He sights ‘The Enlightenment’ as an example. When 10% of Europeans moved to stage Orange, the entire culture started to become dominated by Orange even though 90% were still at Blue.

I was wondering if people knew about the healthiness of doner kebab. Although I’ve heard that they’re bad for you, I’ve done research on how they are made. They only get meat, mix it with some natural flavourings and spices (also soy) and finally fry it with vegetable oil. It doesn’t seem too bad to me. What do you guys think? Any experience with this?

@levani Your practice is going well! Keep it up. Don’t listen to @Raptorsin7

Whose forum do you think this is?

The way I see it, this forum is to keep you motivated to carry on your practice. In other words, it is entertainment. You don’t need answers to get enlightened. You only need motivation to do your practice.

I assume you mean the ‘do nothing.’ So why are your questions relevant for enlightenment. Just do your practices quietly, and trust that you will get to enlightenment. There’s no need to invent some questions that you ‘need’ answers to. Trust your practice.

@GroovyGuru When I started spiritual practice, I did it to relieve my suffering. And relieve my suffering it did. Afterwards, it was just about growing to my full potential, and exploring the best in life, which for me is found in spirituality.

@ivankiss I think most people (including myself) needed a teacher to get started with enlightenment. It’s pretty hard to figure out all of enlightenment yourself. Breaking off from the teacher happens later. But certainly there is value in teachers in the beginning.

Just sitting? Surely if sitting was a practice everyone would be enlightened!

@Swarnim Reality is infinite. The same situation can be recontextualised an infinite amount of times. But this is the realm of the mind, not the soul. It is relative truth, not absolute truth.

@Carl-Richard What practice do you follow?

@Carl-Richard You’re stuck in the mind. Just do the practices and see what happens.

@Eph75 I actually got this from another book of his, namely Sufis the people of the path. I certainly remember a time in middle school when I was attracted to some boys in my class. I always thought it was because, in middle school, the boys aren’t very different to girls. It’s only after they become more muscular, and grow facial hair that there is a big difference between boys and girls. But after I heard Osho, I thought maybe I was going through the homosexual phase. My ‘homosexual phase’ ended when the boys my age started growing facial hair and became muscular. After that, I was only attracted to girls. So my journey certainly supports his model.

About 30 books since Covid started. Most of them are so thick I need to take a break from holding them!

There is only one ego: yours. Other egos are just a creation of your ego.

@Tim R Ram Dass said that his guru, Neem Karoli Baba, took some LSD, and nothing happened to him. Ram Dass’ explanation was “you don’t need to take a bus to Detroit if you’re already in Detroit.” Although something tells me that Neem Karoli Baba probably didn’t have LSD consciousness 24/7.

@Dodo All of science is relative, meaning that it has nothing to do with awakening. Quantum mechanics is beneficial because it breaks down the material world, which is a stubborn obstacle to awakening. But after that, you need to leave it behind.

@Shanmugam In ‘Conversations with God’, God says that Jesus is a reincarnation of a person who had, in a previous life, finished his awakening process, but had decided to come back for the sake of his fellow men.

@Ook Do you mind explaining it. I haven’t read every spiritual book out there!

@Leo Gura But don’t you think that a chain reaction has begun. The number of people interested in spirituality is growing very fast. Sooner or later it will get to the mainstream.

@The_Alchemist It was boring at first, but thanks to it I got way deeper into spirituality. It turned out to be for the best in the end.

@Ibgdrgnxxv What’s the point of this topic?

@Daphnedenninghoff23 The religion of tomorrow by Ken Wilber. It’s a pretty gargantuan book, but it really ties together everything related to spirituality.